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Ex-Subway pitchman Jared Fogle is suing his victim's parents

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mre

Golden Domers are chickenshit!!
What's he suing for exactly? Whatever led to him watching the tapes and her background, do not exonerate him of his crime. At the end of the day, whether her insufficient level of parental guidance or multiple sex partners played a role in the tape is irrelevant. The fact remains that he was knowingly in possession of child pornography. The fact that he would go out of his way to sue the parents makes it seem as if he thinks that there is no wrongdoing on his part, and only furthers the case that he is a disgusting human being.
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People get so emotional over court filings. He's not saying any of this with his filings. Essentially, he's saying that at least some part of her alleged injuries ("severe, traumatic and permanent injuries and mental anguish") are attributable to the parent's actions/inactions, and that in order for the claims to be completely satisfied, the parents must be joined as defendants. However, his angle in this is not to protect her interests, but to protect his own. Assuming his allegations are true, arguendo, then the parents would be in some part responsible for the injuries alleged in the complaint ("severe, traumatic and permanent injuries and mental anguish") and the amount of money he would owe would be reduced.

To use a non-pedophile example, say you're hit by a car driven by John Smith on Monday and you break your arm, and then on Tuesday you're hit by a car driven by Suzie Brown and you break your leg. If you sue only Suzie Brown for your injuries, she can bring John Smith into the litigation as he bears responsibility for part of your injuries as well, and (look at the rule below) not having John Smith be party to the lawsuit means that you would "leave an existing party (Suzie Brown) subject to a substantial risk of incurring double, multiple, or otherwise inconsistent obligations (i.e., paying for the medical bills related to your broken arm) because of [not also suing John Smith]."

Fogle's saying that, assuming a jury finds he caused the plaintiff "severe, traumatic and permanent injuries and mental anguish," he wasn't the only one who did so, and that her parents contributed to part of those injuries and should therefore be held legally and, more importantly, financially responsible for compensating her for those injuries.

This hasn't been a commentary on the merits of this filing, just trying to explain what's going on from a legal perspective.

Here's the relevant federal rule (FRCP 19):

Wow, thanks. I didn't know any of this honestly. Makes a lot of sense.
You're welcome. When I can, I'm always happy to try to explain the procedural happenings in legal cases because it can be very confusing. And it's not helped by journalists, who should no better, misrepresenting the truth in the name of driving clicks. There's enough to be outraged with what he did, directly or indirectly, to these children than to get outraged over something he didn't do like "sue the parents."
 

rjinaz

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I know it's inappropriate but I burst out laughing. I think you guys need to lighten up a little, not sure why he got banned.

Because rape isn't funny and prison rape is a real problem? If Jared was a woman, do you think this joke would have been made?
 

Noirulus

Member
Let me ask you guys a question, did you not find the Guantanamo bay scene funny in Harold and Kumar? Since when should comedy be censored?

Because rape isn't funny and prison rape is a real problem? If Jared was a woman, do you think this joke would have been made?

Jared didn't actually get raped, though. If he did, the joke wouldn't have been funny.

Is this really the first time you've heard that joke?

No, but it's funny because Jared was a famous spokesman for subway, who serve footlong sandwiches. So this is the type of context that comes around maybe once every 20 years. Do you need me to explain further why it's funny?
 
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You're welcome. When I can, I'm always happy to try to explain the procedural happenings in legal cases because it can be very confusing. And it's not helped by journalists, who should no better, misrepresenting the truth in the name of driving clicks. There's enough to be outraged with what he did, directly or indirectly, to these children than to get outraged over something he didn't do like "sue the parents."

I actually vaguely remember hearing about this in a similar case this year, but the name escapes me. I'll add this to the OP in a second.
 

rjinaz

Member
Let me ask you guys a question, did you not find the Guantanamo bay scene funny in Harold and Kumar? Since when should comedy be censored?



Jared didn't actually get raped, though. If he did, the joke wouldn't have been funny.



No, but it's funny because Jared was a famous spokesman for subway, who serve footlong sandwiches. So this is the type of context that comes around maybe once every 20 years. Do you need me to explain further why it's funny?

Well I usually get the 6 inches sandwiches myself, I'm sure you could make a rape joke about that too. You should try it and see if it gets a laugh.
 

rubes7844

Banned
Meatball sub isn't bad if you're in a rush.



Bread tastes factory made. Steak comes in a brick and is mashed apart by employees wearing gloves. Chicken is just microwaved and pre-packaged. Most vegetables are limp and taste like ass. Sauces are too strong.

Go to Jimmy John's and treat yourself to a good sandwich.
With tomatoes, onions, oregano and jalapeños.
 

Mask

Member
So he's already got that lakeside condo booked in hell and now he's going for an executive suite upgrade?

Never amazes me the depth that fucked up people like him will sink to, and also the bullshit cases that lawyers will take, knowing full well that they'll be seen as morally bankrupt afterwards..
 

Noirulus

Member
Well I usually get the 6 inches sandwiches myself, I'm sure you could make a rape joke about that too. You should try it and see if it gets a laugh.

Uh... what? Look dude, I just found it funny. That's all. Stop trying to find reasons to get offended and frame me as a rape apologist or some shit.
 

rjinaz

Member
Uh... what? Look dude, I just found it funny. That's all. Stop trying to find reasons to get offended and frame me as a rape apologist or some shit.

So you're saying whichever mod banned that other user was just looking for a reason to be offended as well then?

This is off topic though so you're right in that I'll stop.
 
Are you being daft? I already addressed this above.

You seem to be awfully defensive for someone crying about people getting offended easily. Some people called you out for laughing at a bad joke. Or for justifying it because "he didn't actually get raped".

Cool, you find humour in that shit. Good for you. Other people prefer not to make light of a problem such as that. Deal with it?
 

Krejlooc

Banned
Let me ask you guys a question, did you not find the Guantanamo bay scene funny in Harold and Kumar?

Ive never seen Harold and Kumar, nor do I really have a desire to see it. But I guess the gist of the scene is they get raped or something? That doesn't sound very funny...
 

Noirulus

Member
This is my last post in this thread before it gets derailed even further

So you're saying whichever mod banned that other user was just looking for a reason to be offended as well then?

This is off topic though so you're right in that I'll stop.

I don't know why the mod banned him, that's why I asked initially why he was banned when tbh it was a pretty harmless (and funny) joke IMHO

You seem to be awfully defensive for someone crying about people getting offended easily. Some people called you out for laughing at a bad joke. Or for justifying it because "he didn't actually get raped".

Cool, you find humour in that shit. Good for you. Other people prefer not to make light of a problem such as that. Deal with it?

Because I'm tired of GAF talking down to others when they say something that goes against the norm. Look at the 2nd response I got to my post.

Is this really the first time you heard that joke?

I mean, what a dumb post. Can you not see why someone would find the joke funny in context with the topic of the article?

Good for you. Other people prefer not to make light of a problem such as that. Deal with it?

Why can't you just deal with the fact that some people might find a harmless joke funny? No need to be outraged over everything, okay?
 

Nudull

Banned
Truly, the question of whether or not making rape jokes in thread involving rape is appropriate is a difficult one, to be pondered for centuries.
 

ColdPizza

Banned
I just hate lawsuits like this because it just serves to victimize the victims and their families even more. I wish someone in the justice system would throw shit like this into the trash as soon as it crosses their desk.
 

mre

Golden Domers are chickenshit!!
I just hate lawsuits like this because it just serves to victimize the victims and their families even more. I wish someone in the justice system would throw shit like this into the trash as soon as it crosses their desk.
Lawsuits like what? Fogler isn't suing anybody.
 
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