ex-Valve veteran Tom Leonard confirms: he worked on Source 2 from Nov 2010 - Feb 2013

[angular graphics]

(he was let go in Feb)

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tom-leonard/0/86b/493?trk=pub-pbmap

Senior Developer, Source 2
Valve Corporation

November 2010 – February 2013 (2 years 4 months)

 

[Genesis Knight]

I thought Source didn't have version numbers or whatever.

 

[HoosTrax]

I mean, did anyone think they haven't been quietly working on Source Engine 2.

 

[Burt]

I mean, did anyone think they haven't been quietly working on Source Engine 2.

Seriously. They've just been waiting for next gen consoles to come out so that minimum bar gets raised.

 

[blugbox]

Source pushed physics so far back in the day that I can't wait to see how they push things again. Hope to see fluid dynamics and cloth simulation next gen finally!

 

[zero shift]

I thought Source didn't have version numbers or whatever.

It doesn't, this doesn't make any sense. Maybe he put that as the next overhaul to the engine?

 

[Biggzy]

Source pushed physics so far back in the day that I can't wait to see how they push things again. Hope to see fluid dynamics and cloth simulation next gen finally!

I hope to see a competent streaming system this time.

 

[xJavonta]

I hope to see a competent streaming system this time.

This. Cutting off the gameplay to load up textures and shit was jarring in HL2. (Didnt prevent it from being my favorite game ever though)

 

[StuBurns]

If Source 2 started that late, for HL3, it still won't be done this year.

 

[Reckless Onion]

HL3 & CS2 on Source 2 at 60fps on ps4.. DO IT!!

 

[Spookie]

HL3 & CS2 on Source 2 at 60fps on ps4.. DO IT!!

Counter Strike 2? Meh. It's been reiterated so many god damn times I wish they would just put a bullet in it and leave it to rest.

 

[SteveWinwood]

I'm pretty sure we've known about source 2 forever now.

Or maybe it was one of those unspoken things.

 

[angular graphics]

I'm pretty sure we've known about source 2 forever now.

Or maybe it was one of those unspoken things.

If by forever you mean in 2012, then sure. But apparently work began 2 years earlier, something we didn't know.

 

[alexandros]

We've known of the existence of Source 2 since 4chan's visit to Valve. Newell himself confirmed that they're working on Source 2 and that's it's a brand new engine instead of an update to the previous one.

 

[SteveWinwood]

If by forever you mean in 2012, then sure. But apparently work began 2 years earlier, something we didn't know.

It feels like forever man.

 

[Nibel]

If Source 2 started that late, for HL3, it still won't be done this year.

I'd be happy if anything comes out in 2014/2015 at this point

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

2017 believe.

 

[JaseC]

I'd be happy if anything comes out in 2014/2015 at this point

Fun fact: If not released earlier, Episode Three/Half-Life 3 will become Valve's longest-gestating project on October 3rd, 2015 (judging from initial announcement -> release date).

 

[Relax.MX]

HL3 & CS2 on Source 2 at 60fps on ps4.. DO IT!!

Valve games on console? No mods? No big updates? Is the half of the fun

 

[Dylan]

So, if my message board etiquette is correct, we should now be blaming this guy, and this guy alone for fucking up Source 2 and delaying HL3. Screw you, Tom Leonard!

 

[angular graphics]

From facepunch:

 

[angular graphics]

Nice to see a second guy who worked on Source 2.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/roger-lundeen/33/a47/bbb

Architect / Environment Artist
Valve Corporation

2010 – 2013 (3 years) Greater Seattle Area

Source 2
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
Portal 2 (play-testing)

 

[Jenga]

lead programmer of Thief 1? thief-like kickstarter?

maybe one day

one day

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Source has been around a loooong time. Good thing Valve's art direction tends to be really good; can't hide those load times, though.

 

[RukusProvider]

Source 2 update of Dota2. Make it so.

 

[Orayn]

Source 2 update of Dota2. Make it so.

Doubtful unless Source 2 is somehow more efficient and has lower hardware requirements than Source. Dota 2's reqs are steep enough compared to the likes of WoW and SC2 as it is.

 

[epmode]

itshappening.gif

 

[amdnv]

itshappening.gif

Someone call me?

 

[Eideka]

HL1 remade with Source 2.

 

[subversus]

I'm really sad that he's left Valve. May be Arkane?

 

[DocSeuss]

Source pushed physics so far back in the day that I can't wait to see how they push things again. Hope to see fluid dynamics and cloth simulation next gen finally!

I thought it used a slightly modified Havok.

 

[oneils]

Anyone got the scoop on why he left or was let go?

 

[FACE]

I'm glad they waited for the next gen to make HL3

 

[angular graphics]

Anyone got the scoop on why he left or was let go?

24 employees were let go. Two theories:

a) "performance review"
b) "cuts were driven more by company challenges than by individual performance issues"

 

[Mavromatis]

I thought Source didn't have version numbers or whatever.

Well it seems it has.

In August 2012, the Valve fan site Valve Time revealed that Valve might be in development of a "Source Engine 2", based on coding from the Source Filmmaker that directed technology from the upcoming version. In November, Gabe Newell confirmed that the Source Engine 2 is under development, and that Valve is "waiting for a game to roll it out with".