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ExitPoll: 21% of Bernie supporters did not vote for Wisc. Dem Supreme Court Candidate

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ivysaur12

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Background: Rebecca Bradley is a heinous individual who said these fun things in the 90s:

http://www.jsonline.com/news/rebecc...to-kill-themselves-b99682686z1-371276861.html

Madison — Newly appointed state Supreme Court Justice Rebecca Bradley wrote in a student newspaper 24 years ago that she had no sympathy for AIDS patients because they had effectively chosen to kill themselves, called gays "queers" and said Americans were "either totally stupid or entirely evil" for electing President Bill Clinton.

In one piece, she wrote people would be better off getting AIDS than cancer under Clinton because it would get more funding.

"How sad that the lives of degenerate drug addicts and queers are valued more than the innocent victims of more prevalent ailments," wrote Bradley, who then had the last name of Grassl.

GOP Gov. Scott Walker acknowledged Monday he was not aware of her Marquette University writings before he appointed her three times to judicial positions. He said it was clear her views had changed.

Bradley declined an interview request, but in a written statement said she was embarrassed about the pieces she wrote "as a very young student, upset about the outcome of that presidential election" in 1992, when Clinton first won the presidency.

"To those offended by comments I made as a young college student, I apologize, and assure you that those comments are not reflective of my worldview," her statement said. "These comments have nothing to do with who I am as a person or a jurist, and they have nothing to do with the issues facing the voters of this state."

But at the time she wrote for the Marquette Tribune, she relished taking a controversial stance.

In a column that appeared soon after Clinton was elected, she wrote: "Either you condone drug use, homosexuality, AIDS-producing sex, adultery and murder and are therefore a bad person, or you didn't know that he supports abortion on demand and socialism, which means you are dumb. Have I offended anyone? Good — some of you really need to wake up."

Calling Clinton a murderer because of his support for abortion rights, she wrote that anyone who voted for him was "obviously immoral."

That column, as well as two Marquette Tribune letters to the editor she penned in 1992, were unearthed by the progressive group One Wisconsin Now, which distributed them Monday after a Capitol news conference. That group and the liberal People for the American Way called for her to resign from office — an idea Bradley's campaign manager called absurd.

They were released four weeks before voters decide whether to give Bradley a full 10-year term on the court in the April 5 election. She faces Appeals Judge JoAnne Kloppenburg, who decried Bradley for her writings.

They also come as a conservative group prepares to launch a television ad Tuesday attacking Kloppenburg for a ruling she signed onto that allowed a child sex offender to get an additional hearing, though the criminal's attempt to overturn his conviction so far has been unsuccessful. The Wisconsin Alliance for Reform is spending more than $700,000 on the ad over the next two weeks.

The column and letters to the editor include these statements:

■ "Perhaps AIDS Awareness should seek to educate us with their misdirected compassion for the degenerates who basically commit suicide through their behavior."

■ "But the homosexuals and drug addicts who do essentially kill themselves and others through their own behavior deservedly receive none of my sympathy."

■ "This brings me to my next point — why is a student government on a Catholic campus attempting to bring legitimacy to an abnormal sexual preference?"

■ "Heterosexual sex is very healthy in a loving martial relationship. Homosexual sex, however, kills."

■ "I will certainly characterize whomever transferred their infected blood (to a transfusion recipient) a homosexual or drug-addicted degenerate and a murderer."

■ "We've just had an election (in 1992) which proves the majority of voters are either totally stupid or entirely evil."

■ Clinton "supports the Freedom of Choice Act, which will allow women to mutilate and dismember their helpless children through their ninth month of pregnancy. Anyone who could consciously vote for such a murderer is obviously immoral."

She also said this in 2006:

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/loc...cle_c6d985d8-ac44-5d7e-9667-c4fdef074f3e.html

In the 2006 column, Bradley said opponents of the pharmacists' conscience clause elevated "women's convenience over pharmacists' objections to being a party to murder." She argued it would be reasonable to expect women to go to another pharmacy, a Planned Parenthood clinic or an emergency room to obtain contraception.

"Pharmacists have been fired and disciplined for exercising the belief, which can be scientifically supported, that contraceptives may cause the death of a conceived, unborn child by preventing implantation of a fertilized egg in the uterus," Bradley wrote in the column.

She just won re-election in Wisconsin, defeating the Dem candidate JoAnne Kloppenburg 52/48. It's likely that if Bernie supporters had voted similarly to the margins that Hillary supporters had voted, Kloppenburg would've barely won.
 
I voted in Wisco.

My only guess was people were confused by the ballot itself or didn't know the names well enough? There was no straight ticket voting on the ballot. I really don't get how this happened.
 

Blader

Member
I voted in Wisco.

My only guess was people were confused by the ballot itself or didn't know the names well enough? There was no straight ticket voting on the ballot. I really don't get how this happened.

Unengaged voters who don't know or care about anyone on the ballot other than the presidential candidate is how that happens.
 

Mael

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if this is how Sanders base vote en masse I guess they're not going to make super delegate sweat all that much if they're primaried.
 
The Supreme Court election is "officially" non-partisan, right? So I image the candidates didn't have party affiliation, so the few Sanders supporters had no clue which to vote for. That's a serious, serious bummer.
 

GuyKazama

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The writings are 20+ years old, and she's a judge -- not a legislator. What rulings does she have that are objectionable?
 

ivysaur12

Banned
The Supreme Court election is "officially" non-partisan, right? So I image the candidates didn't have party affiliation, so the few Sanders supporters had no clue which to vote for. That's a serious, serious bummer.

Hillary supporters seemed to have figure it out!
 
I voted in Wisco.

My only guess was people were confused by the ballot itself or didn't know the names well enough? There was no straight ticket voting on the ballot. I really don't get how this happened.

The Wisconsin Supreme Court is a nominally nonpartisan position. Kloppenburg is a Democrat and Bradley is a Republican but they were not on the ballot as such so straight ticket voting wouldn't work for that race.
 
The Wisconsin Supreme Court is a nominally nonpartisan position. Kloppenburg is a Democrat and Bradley is a Republican but they were not on the ballot as such so straight ticket voting wouldn't work for that race.
Oh, I know, but people go in without proper information other than "Voting Dem," and boom. "Who the fuck is Kloppenburg and Bradley?"

I'm not suggesting it should've been a straight ticket vote or anything.
 

gcubed

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Can we get all these people to go to the statehouse in Madison and yell about things? That's how everything gets fixed!
 
The writings are 20+ years old, and she's a judge -- not a legislator. What rulings does she have that are objectionable?
So I guess Hillary's super predator comments are off the table then?

It's ok though, Kloppenburg was probably part of the establishment.
 

Mael

Member
Oh, I know, but people go in without proper information other than "Voting Dem," and boom. "Who the fuck is Kloppenburg and Bradley?"

I'm not suggesting it should've been a straight ticket vote or anything.

Maybe that wouldn't have been the case if Sanders publicly supported the guy when he was in WI?
That's how Clinton voters voted en masse for Kloppenburg
 

Damaniel

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Good job on that 'revolution', guys. If you can't be bothered to vote for anyone other than Bernie, then how are you supposed to bring about the change you want?

(Also, shame on the 18-34 Hillary supporters who were nearly as derelict in their voting duties as the Bernie supporters as a whole. Politics is more than just the Presidency!)
 

robochimp

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Unfortunately If every person who voted in the democratic primary voted for Kloppenburg she would have still lost.


I voted in Wisco.

My only guess was people were confused by the ballot itself or didn't know the names well enough? There was no straight ticket voting on the ballot. I really don't get how this happened.

One of the first things republicans did to fix the budget was get rid of straight ticket voting.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Now there's that newfound political engagement I've heard Bernie talking about!
 
This is a really good example of my #1 reason for having a tremendous amount of spite for a certain segment of the most outspoken Bernie supporters.

They're the ones who are doing the best job at getting in the way of the revolution they claim to support.

edit: equally disappointing is the number of people who voted for Bradley and didn't just abstain from voting altogether.
 
I voted for sanders and voted for kloppenburg. I expect Wisconsin to end up like Mississippi in the next few years and plan on moving out of state when I can. This is a huge oversight by the voters and they can go fuck themselves for not voting.

Fuck walker in his fucking ass. Destroyed a great state, will probably get reelected too.
 

CDX

Member
That sure seems like an interesting way to start a political "revolution".



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Well. I'm glad more of the Hillary voters seem to have figured out who to vote for.
 

RDreamer

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I voted for sanders and voted for kloppenburg. I expect Wisconsin to end up like Mississippi in the next few years and plan on moving out of state when I can. This is a huge oversight by the voters and they can go fuck themselves for not voting.

Fuck walker in his fucking ass. Destroyed a great state, will probably get reelected too.

Same boat here. It's been nothing short of appalling seeing what's been done in this state. I want to move so badly.

I did my duty and voted Kloppenburg. Sad seeing how many didn't.
 

GuyKazama

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So I guess Hillary's super predator comments are off the table then?

It's ok though, Kloppenburg was probably part of the establishment.

No, it is just that how a judge does her job doesn't necessarily reflect her political / personal beliefs. That is different than a legislator or executive.
 

devilhawk

Member
But a higher percentage of young Hillary voters voted for Bradley than young Sanders ones.

Give me enough numbers and you can say anything.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
So maybe I just read this wrong but isn't 21% a fairly small number compared to the 79% who did? I never expect 100% of people to vote at all, let alone for something specific that isn't the presidency so 79% of people who voted for Bernie voting for the Supreme court candidate seems pretty good? Am I missing something?
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
But a higher percentage of young Hillary voters voted for Bradley than young Sanders ones.

Give me enough numbers and you can say anything.

Ah, glad a Sanders supporter finally found a narrative to go with. Quick! Everybody go with it!

Numbers Mean Nothing, you can do anything with them!
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
Kloppenbergs husband donated 600 dollars to Clintons campaign. Why would Bernie care about urging his voters to vote for her?
 

User1608

Banned
Lame as hell. My sympathies to the voters of Wisconsin who do care. They don't deserve what's happening to them. Fuck Walker and the GOP for wrecking it.
 
But a higher percentage of young Hillary voters voted for Bradley than young Sanders ones.

Give me enough numbers and you can say anything.

Yeah. The thread title is uhm, reaching a bit. As if it's bernie's supporters fault that this candidate got elected.
 

besada

Banned
Hillary supporters seemed to have figure it out!

Except the nearly 8% who didn't. If we assume that as the baseline for democratic voters who can't find their ass with both hands and a map, that leaves us with 13% of Sanders voters who are either just not Democrats or checked a single box and strode out victoriously to await the fruits of the revolution.
 

kirblar

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No, it is just that how a judge does her job doesn't necessarily reflect her political / personal beliefs. That is different than a legislator or executive.
That's complete and total bullshit when it comes to the types of issues a SC is taking up.
 

ivysaur12

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Yeah. The thread title is uhm, reaching a bit. As if it's bernie's supporters fault that this candidate got elected.

How?

Except the nearly 8% who didn't. If we assume that as the baseline for democratic voters who can't find their ass with both hands and a map, that leaves us with 13% of Sanders voters who are either just not Democrats or checked a single box and strode out victoriously to await the fruits of the revolution.

And I take issue with the 13% who did not, if your entire election is relying on a so-called "revolution" to galvanize young people to polls to unleash this progressive resurgence in America.
 
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