Fan asks Spencer for backwards compat, Spencer pats fan on head and says he supports

[twobear]

Basically, give the man a chance, he's been in power for no more than a couple of months or so. Why the hell you expecting instant results. And have you ignored all the other good shit he's done recently?

I don't know why you're addressing your reply at me.

 

[Bgamer90]

I still think it's coming in the form of a disc less Xbox Mini that plugs into the USB port on the side of the console.

Yeah, I remember those rumors. Similar to the Genesis power base converter. I would buy one as long as it's small and could fit (or connect) to the Xbox one easily.

 

[Neff]

If MS did this it would be over for Sony.

But they can't, not without a Bone redesign, so it won't.

 

[KiraXD]

BC is one thing i miss. I would definitely get an XB1 if it offered BC... your move sony... PS2 BC? (please)

Backwards compatibility is really important to me for one reason... ease. (and letting me play older games with newer better controller!)

 

[twobear]

If MS did this it would be over for Sony.

But they can't, not without a Bone redesign, so it won't.

Yep, just like it was game over for 360 when the PS3 had PS2 and PS1 backwards compatibility.

 

[GladiatoR]

If MS did this it would be over for Sony.

But they can't, not without a Bone redesign, so it won't.

Dat hyperbole.

Take a step back bro. It would be good if they could do it, but it would be far from game over....

 

[TsuWave]

Pretty sure Phil will agree to just about anything at this point. Someone ask him if we'll see the last guardian on the xbone at e3.

ok, i laughed

 

[MrBenchmark]

I'm no expert but we've got a system here with the same brand gpu much more powerful than the last with far more memory but very similar design. The wild card is can a x86 AMD CPU with 8 cores pull off emulating a ppc based tri core CPU. If it could that would be pretty sweet.

 

[Metallix87]

Would it even be worth the trouble at that point? I mean, outside of diehards and collectors, who the hell still has original xbox games lying around? Who would that really appeal to?

I think it would just be very good PR for them.

 

[dcx4610]

Back in April 2013...

"The “Xbox Mini” is not a 360 add-on, it is a stand alone product that contains Xbox 360 functions for gaming, and alone it is meant to compete with Apple TV. Since it is likely it will not have a disc drive, it is being designed with “always online” in mind, and with internet being required for Live functions. Xbox 360 Games can be played on it by purchasing Games on Demand on Xbox Live (for new purchases) or if already purchased, simply download it. This also applies to music and movies. To further clarify, the Durango will also have these (TV) functions, just with next-genration gaming hardware instead of Xbox 360 at a higher price."

The idea was you could connect it to your Xbox One for backwards compatibility. I don't know if it was dropped or put on hold. I would consider it if is was around $99.

 

[Gorillaz]

Phil continues to agree with everything and promise the world. No surprises here when nothing comes of it.

Pretty much

 

[AlphaDump]

Basically, it is stated that emulation of Power PC on X86 architecture is "really hard," there are some plans, but nothing concrete to announce at the time or recording.

absolutely.

it could be brute forced via a server ie cloud/gaikai, but it would probably still require a shit ton of resources in providing assurance. even still emulation would still not be 100%

 

[thehillissilent]

I'd rather have remastered editions like Sony did for their PS2 games.

 

[DangerMouse]

Phil continues to agree with everything and promise the world. No surprises here when nothing comes of it.

Bingo.

 

[KaiserBecks]

Yep, just like it was game over for 360 when the PS3 had PS2 and PS1 backwards compatibility.

Sony killed that feature as soon as they realized there was still money to be made with the PS2. And unlike the US 60gb PS3, it wasn't even a thing in Europe, just a half assed software emulation.

 

[ZackGamer]

I hope this happens

 

[Rodney McKay]

I'd rather have remastered editions like Sony did for their PS2 games.

Yeah, I'd love remasters for the 3-4 360 games I actually still own (Banjo, Crackdown, the Halos).

I would love it if the Xbox Live Arcade games would get ported over to the Xbox One (for free as long as you already own them). I have a ton of those, and most aren't exactly the most graphically intensive games (Castlevania SOTN, Banjo 1+2, Beyond Good and Evil, etc.)

 

[Syriel]

It will never be native backwards compatible. Maybe some streaming solution like Sony but you won't just put in a 360 disc and play.

Has a console ever not had backwards compatibility for the previous generation at launch but added it later?

Sega Genesis/MegaDrive -- BC added later via accessory.
Xbox 360 -- Supported Halo/Halo 2 at launch. All other titles added later.

BC is really a newish thing.

Consoles generally did not have it before PS2.

 

[Nater]

Don't know if you guys knew this but the x360 didn't have true backwards compatibility either because of the chipset differences. They had an internal team go through all the most popular titles on the original xbox, and create emulated versions for the xbox 360. when you stuck an xbox game in your 360, it would read the disk and go to xbox live to download the emulated game. I think in the few years the team eventually recreated like 75% of the entire xbox library. Also, some that were remade weren't perfect - they had minor issues.

Xbox exec team during the shit storm last year said that backwards compatibility could be possible but that they would have to work it out and it wasn't on the immediate radar. I assume the solution, if they have one now, will be similar.

 

[Neff]

Yep, just like it was game over for 360 when the PS3 had PS2 and PS1 backwards compatibility.

Very different platforms, very different markets, and very different times. Not an apt comparison.

We're kind of at an impasse where neither of the new consoles has a lot to play. There's no doubt that PS2 and PS3 both enjoyed the luxury of legacy titles when they were hurting for new software. 360 never really had that luxury, even if its BC hadn't sucked. But it did have great games that people wanted to play.

 

[Megadragon15]

Phil continues to agree with everything and promise the world. No surprises here when nothing comes of it.

I saw no promise. Maybe my reading comprehension is different than yours.

 

[Devilgunman]

Nice if true but I don't see it to be very significant. WiiU has full BC and it didn't help.

 

[miDnIghtEr20C]

If they announce all new SKUs have full Bc and the one you have doesn't you wouldn't feel like that?

Nope.

 

[Basketball]

If we get full backward compat. ( with xbla / dlc and disc games)

it's a wrap for me

 

[muzzymate]

Yeah, I remember those rumors. Similar to the Genesis power base converter. I would buy one as long as it's small and could fit (or connect) to the Xbox one easily.

If they could sell such a thing for $100, I'd jump all over it.

 

[pizzacat]

It was a good push

 

[angelic]

spencer is the best game exec there's ever been. he just gets it.

 

[phanphare]

It was a good push

ayyyyy!

 

[foolia]

Dayum.

 

[JaggedSac]

It was a good push

Lol

 

[Übermatik]

Well damn.

 

[terrisus]

"pats on head"
Good job, OP.

This would be a megaton if it came to the Xbox One and they announced it at E3 IMO.

Prescient first post.

 

[PhatSaqs]

lol

 

[Ricky Ricardo]

Can't stop laughing, thread is a goldmine!

 

[Jackbooted]

Here's a necro I can get behind.

 

[Kinsella]

That crow is aged like a fine wine.

 

[Steverulez]

But I thought Phil Spencer was all talk?

 

[R215]

Well damn.

 

[lazer_bean]

one year later and, from what I gathered from a majority of posts, backwards compatibility is something no one gives gives a shit about. It's "super niche" (as if "niche" wasn't enough), apparently.

 

[DopeyFish]

This has to stop...

Let Phil Spencer prove himself before worshiping him

All hail our new god, phil spencer!

 

[Ray Wonder]

This is one of my favorite bumps. lol

 

[Zeyphersan]

Crow! Get your crow here! Fresh and delicious crow!

 

[Captain Tuttle]

Great bump haha

Lots of grey names

 

[MightyHedgehog]

So many confident computer science degree holders in here. It definitely looked unlikely a year ago, but I'm glad MS is putting in the effort.

 

[Jotamide]

I love when this happens.

 

[Madness]

A lot of those 'ain't happening' posters are banned. Wonder what they would've said about this bump.

 

[a.wd]

Dat righteous justice crow bump

 

[Amir0x]

If MS did this it would be over for Sony.

But they can't, not without a Bone redesign, so it won't.

But they can, and they did, and it is somehow not over for Sony. So everything here is wrong!

Great news all around. I bet going software emulation for PS4 would be extremely difficult considering how fucked PS3's architecture was. So Bone got the only BC solution (other than Wii U) worth a damn.

 

[LegalEagleMike]

A lot of those 'ain't happening' posters are banned. Wonder what they would've said about this bump.

probably something else to get them banned.

 

[Santiako]

he delivered, what a guy