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Nuclear Muffin
Banned
VICTORY TO RIKI!!!
ShockingAlberto
Member
Looks like no Operation Rainfall cases, they're claiming a break-in happened I guess.
http://operationrainfall.com/read-regarding-the-cases-for-donators/
http://operationrainfall.com/read-regarding-the-cases-for-donators/
There is no way that doesn't seem shady as all fuck. Why on earth would burglars steal a box of empty cases? And wouldn't this have been an enormous box, or likely multiple boxes? That seems completely absurd. If that's true, I feel like they should at least provide some documentation/proof from the printer that the cases were actually paid for and had shipped, or something like that.
Criminal Upper
Banned
Pandora's Tower is the weakest of the three games, and generally regarded as terrible. I find it weird Rainfall even bothered.
Edit: And that does sound really sketch.
Edit: And that does sound really sketch.
Stop with the stupid conspiracy theories. Burglars steal without rhyme or reason. If they think something looks like it would be worth something, they will grab it especially if no one is around to stop them, even if it is a bag of cases they think may have something inside. The fact that they are offering refunds is proof of it. Don't be asinine.
But they aren't offering refunds...(?):
Unless I'm reading it wrong.
But, yeah..sucks.
Calling them out is nonsense, we've had our fair share of stories in here were burglars steal specific systems, or specific stuff; so they stealing this box is "normal"; no need to start conspirancy theories about it.
They probably thought it had games/movies on it and weren't just empty cases.
EDIT:
Darn..hehehe. I know shouldn't be laughing, but the "Due to quite a stir people have come up with despite the situation"...
They did handled it poorly. They should've mentioned the robbery first, along them looking for alternatives (and nothing else)..before saying directly "we won't offer refunds as we don't have money".
It's probably what made it sound "weird" to many.
The Grim Heaper
Member
I thought it was sketchy when I first read this article a few minutes ago but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Initially they weren't, but they updated the article with this:
lol
Offering to refund something when someone has had a lot of their valuables stolen away is hard when you're just a small group trying to offer people a good that was done initially through donation. How ridiculous can you be by jumping to such a conclusion? It may not have been the best way to word it, but have a shred of compassion.
I'm of the mentality that it just happened to come out at the right time to get swept up with Xenoblade and Last Story, the two real stars of this. They were even announced together and have pedigrees that just a few years ago would've guaranteed a fast localization (well, mainly Last Story, though Xenoblade was certainly meaty enough), though enough people seemed to have liked Pandora's Tower enough that it's probably worth looking into when convenient... which actually happened simply due to Amazon.co.uk opening up the borders for game purchases and pummeling the price of the LE.
Do imagine that if it weren't for the Operation Rainfall ruckus none of them would've gotten LEs, or just Last Story would have.
As for what bumped the thread: Yeah, that definitely sounds suspicious to me. Be nice to get some actual proof of them being printed and see people get their money back. And let's be honest here: that kind of story IS a double edged sword: if true it's absolutely a tragedy, if false it's an easy way to deflect criticism by pointing at how terrible the event is. This IS a small, otherwise unknown group, even if they weren't out to scam it's possible they didn't realize they were in over their heads and decided to back out by creating a story like this. But we'll probably see what's really going on before too long, or so I'd hope.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Burglers don't really have the time to open up boxes and be like hmm ok this looks worth taking. It's normally GRAB THAT OH GRAB THAT HEY GET THAT REAL FAST OK LETS GET THE FUCK OUT
Willy Wanka
my god this avatar owns
Did they not have tenants/renters insurance?
I'm sure he does.
What I don't get is why anyone would think he would go to all this trouble creating a story of being robbed if he was lying? If he was lying and no one found the police report, he would be arrested. If he just wanted the money, he would have just ran off with it months ago. Saying this is suspicious or shady is just a very shameful thing to say. Stop with the absolutely idiotic conspiracy theories and go sit in the corner.
What I don't get is why anyone would think he would go to all this trouble creating a story of being robbed if he was lying? If he was lying and no one found the police report, he would be arrested. If he just wanted the money, he would have just ran off with it months ago. Saying this is suspicious or shady is just a very shameful thing to say. Stop with the absolutely idiotic conspiracy theories and go sit in the corner.
I don't think anyone thinks it's terrible, just mediocre.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Well it just sounds suspicious
Apparently they're promising to publish the police report on Monday. I'm going to wait and see what they come up with before coming to any conclusions.
There could be any number of reasons that they might have had to come up with a cover story. Perhaps they originally intended to follow through but found out that they were in over their heads.
The whole idea of crowd funding to pitch the game to publishers is incredibly sketchy and bound for disaster. If a publisher wants to go that route, they should just set up a Kickstarter or whatever themselves. Once you've got a lot of peoples' money involved things get really complicated. Crowd funding really should be left to organizations that are experienced with this sort of thing.
Remember when Project Zomboid gave this excuse too?
Can't wait until we start seeing Kickstarter projects citing this to their backers for why games or rewards won't be delivered.
I want to see the receipts. At least a redacted police report.
IrishNinja
Member
shame for them, but yeah, doesnt sound like we missed out on much of a game. hope all's well.
i keep meaning to look into this myself
i keep meaning to look into this myself
WiiRevolution1
Member
Wow, didn't know these people were still trying to bring PT to US. Awesome, but that sounds really shady :lol
I do have a Japanese Wii, so I could always import it but miss out on the story (Don't wanna homebrew my Wii and get EU version) but the game seems cool enough to import and I may bite if its still available mid next year.
I do have a Japanese Wii, so I could always import it but miss out on the story (Don't wanna homebrew my Wii and get EU version) but the game seems cool enough to import and I may bite if its still available mid next year.
You do realize that all donations were going strictly to the cause, and that anyone who paid $10 or more were going to get a case as a gift? They were not paying $10 specifically to get the case and they weren't investing in a promise. No. Operation Rainfall is sort of like a charity, in that you would send them a donation in the hopes that they may be able to reach their goal, which in this case was to convince publishers to localize a game. They said that for months that as part of their disclaimer that all funds they received were going straight towards improving their ability to reach out to those publishers they felt had the best chance of localizing Pandora's Tower.
When was the last time you heard a charity offering a refund for an voluntary donation? In this case, a group of unpaid, autonomous workers are willing to pay out of their own pockets to make sure people are happy. Understand the situation before you go pointing fingers.
Neon_Icarus
Member
People here think Pandora's Tower is terrible? Wow. As someone who's actually played the game, I'd say its a pretty good title, with a really interesting concept behind it. Admittedly the production values are quite low compared to XB/LS. Its definitely not a "Hollywood blockbuster" -type of game, but that's also a virtue in my opinion.
I'd wager that people who actually think its terrible (or truly mediocre), just watched a trailer on youtube and called it a day.
I'd wager that people who actually think its terrible (or truly mediocre), just watched a trailer on youtube and called it a day.
yeah.. I thought it was much better than the last bore.y. At least it tried something new and different, something which cannot be said for tls. Imo it was the closest to what I'd consider a real 3d castlevania without buttonmashing combo dmc/gow style combat to it. It's just you and your wip. Also the crafting mechanic was fun, and the storyline was something we hardly get to see here anyway. (And I guess the story is also the reason this will never be released in the US)
I played and finished it with almost all ending and it was enjoyable.
I really liked the story.
The Grim Heaper
Member
http://operationrainfall.com/read-regarding-the-donation-cases/
They deleted the old article entirely and got rid of the update which stated that they were giving refunds.
EDIT: Looking over the article, this part is interesting as it was absent in the other one.
They deleted the old article entirely and got rid of the update which stated that they were giving refunds.
EDIT: Looking over the article, this part is interesting as it was absent in the other one.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
I thought Pandora's Tower was a solid game.
The music was great even though initial combat became stale very quickly. I was surprised at how entertaining the boss fights were when the chain was usually the only thing you needed to win.
The music was great even though initial combat became stale very quickly. I was surprised at how entertaining the boss fights were when the chain was usually the only thing you needed to win.
RPGCrazied
Member
Can't refund the money? Isn't that almost like stealing? I didn't donate, but if I use money expecting something in return, I better get it, or at least a refund. I really don't want to think they are just lying about the break in just to steal money from people.
Neon_Icarus
Member
Great to see Pandora's Tower getting some love here after all.
I hope we'll see more of these kinds of games from Japan for the Wii U.
I hope we'll see more of these kinds of games from Japan for the Wii U.
Yeah, I imported Pandora's Tower (along with Xenoblade and The Last Story) and it quickly became my favorite of the bunch. Pandora's Tower encapsulates the spirit of an SNES game and the scope of a Japanese PS2 action game. I know I said this in the OT, but I'll say it again. Pandora's Tower is for those who enjoyed/valued that Japanese PS2 action game era. This was a game for a time when developers used to experiment and try new things on low-to-mid tier budgets. The game feels/looks like a cross between Castlevania: Lament of Innocence and Rygar: The Legendary Adventure. As I've said, it also radiates an SNES-like aura/spirit. For me, Pandora's Tower was the Soul Blazer/Illusion of Gaia/Terranigma of the Wii.
It's really a shame people don't look at it with this perspective. I fucking can't stand how people were always complaining about not having anything to play on the Wii. The weird/interesting/cool B-tier alternative games were there (Little King's Story, Sky Crawlers, Fragile Dreams, Lost In Shadow, among others) but the majority never bothered to check them out! A lot of these games were pretty damn exceptional too (like LKS). PT was the kind of game this generation needed. We get SO little title likes this nowadays. A lot of these "lost PS2" games were found the Wii, but today they are still far and few between on the HD consoles. I'm hoping the Wii U provides an equal or greater amount of these types of games. However, some of my favorite devs over the past few years who were providing these titles are gone down (Cing), so who knows what the future will hold. =(
I feel bad for those who were looking forward to this and waited out for a localization announcement. If you really want to play it I suggest biting the bullet and modding your Wii.
Mockingbird
Member
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
Say what? Bless you XSEED! Pandora's Tower was the game I wanted most from Operation Rainfall. I honestly didn't think I'd be excited for another Wii release, but here we are. I'm preordering this sucker.
edit: nvm, see the new thread
edit: nvm, see the new thread
Because it's a Wii game?
A Black Falcon
Member
It's too bad that stuff like Rodea (never released anywhere) and Earth Seeker weren't included in this effort... but still, pretty good news!
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
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