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Far Cry Primal uses the same map (heavily updated) as Far Cry 4.
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What if more devs start doing this, would you be ok with that?
ArkhamFantasy
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Developers finding ways to deal with an unreasonable deadline set by their publisher.
SketchTheArtist
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Doesn't Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 share some animations and sounds?
There's being lazy and then there's being smart and efficient. You don't have to re-invent everything all the time.
That time you save some place can help you polish somewhere else.
cripterion
Member
Are you kidding? Far Cry 4 runs better than Primal. Even with Nvidia effects (which are missing from Primal so it looking better is up to debate)
Alebrije
Member
The height maps. The worlds are entirely different when you are in them. If it was the same thing, I would even be giving them shit. But you will not know what they have actually put into this game... unless you have played it. Most who have are coming away quite surprised.
Games are getting more and more expensive to make, this wont be something new in the years to come.
If they implement used assets without being too evident I will be fine with it.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Precisely. I played both games and never noticed. Primal is great
legacyzero
Banned
You dont consider not creating a completely new world minimal work?
Agree to disagree?
This is textbook Ubi behavior to me, a lomg time angry Ubi fan.
Not on consoles. Not the only one to notice it, either. And it damn sure looks better.
joecanada
Member
I sure don't care . saves me a bunch of money because I already played FC4. don't need it again with new "skin"
AdmiralSnackbar
Member
They couldn't have at least mirrored it?
WordsintheWater
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If the map feels and looks completely different as it does in this, sure, why not?
Movalpolos
Banned
Lazy AND smart.
*on consoles
Why? It's not like anyone really cares anyway except to put a point in the "I hate Ubi" Bingo.
dragonflys545
Member
When you already have an engine and a world created for you to make further enhancements, they damn well make improvements.
RecursiveFault
Banned
Replace "effort" with "time and money"
legacyzero
Banned
More than me apparently. I have boycotted Far Cry games. From the same ubi behavior.
My perspective though.
How can you hate a map?
Absolutely. You think devs don't do this already so they can get some internet cred from some clueless forum posters on gaf? You DO re-use assets all the time in production, it has nothing to do with laziness or the size of the company.
The map looks absolutely nothing like FC4's map where it counts.
SentryDown
Member
Sure, they skinned the villages and the fortresses but you can clearly see the mamooth are actually just re-textured cars.
money is definitely not an issue for Ubisoft.
sunshine and gasoline
Banned
Well, they certainly got good use out of prior resources.
ThatStupidLion
Member
is just the terrain the same or are locations of key places the same too?
They certainly did as well. And you are not going to play these two games and come away thinking that they are the same worlds. Because they really are not, even though they share height maps. The game is very much different and they obviously put a hell of a lot into the world itself. Something that is blatantly obvious when you actually are playing it.
Hot Coldman
Banned
hold on, that outline seems familiar
It's not the same map, just the height map. The world looks and feels completely different from Far Cry 4.
Well, no, they didn't "copy and paste". If you play the game, it's quite obvious that there are substantial changes all over the place, especially in specific design elements and navigation around that map.
It's a good thing your new animations and new engine basically bankrupted the company and caused in the firing of the entire production staff.
It's good business sense to reuse assets, it happens literally all the time. Hell, Dark Souls is the king of asset reuse and I absolutely love that series.
WordsintheWater
Member
Those of you who haven't played the game can't really say if this was lazy or not. You can comment on the map screen and that's about it. If everyone that's playing it has told you it looks nothing like Far Cry 4 in game world then why should the layout of the map matter? The world of Primal does not feel like the world of Far Cry 4, it's pretty evident when you first get your hands on the game. I had the same concerns before I played it, but it's a way better game then Far Cry 4 could wish to be.
bankrupt? where did you get that info from? AFAIK they're still looking for staff to make the new Metal Gear game.
dragonflys545
Member
I will play it eventually, just not for the price they're asking for it. Sure I bet I'll enjoy the game like I did with Syndicate, but all I'm trying to say is that I hope they take notes from some of the games they're releasing that aren't doing well recently and fix those issues in future iterations.
He looks like he's pooping
SentryDown
Member
I'm not entirely sure why people are surprises/shocked for a layout re-use when Primal uses tons of stuff from previous Far Cry games such as animations, grappling hook, animals, activity design, etc...
You might be in for a surprise. I'll leave it there. It is a killer game.
Hot Coldman
Banned
The Lone Courier
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Tatsumi Oga
Banned
I really had not noticed it at all to be honest.
Alright, it was so expensive that they fired the production staff because of the huge expense.
That better? Making everything from scratch is expensive, and AAA production is insanely expensive as it is. The more asset reuse, the more games we get in general.
I see what you did there.
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