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Fatal Frame 4 (wii) Creator's voice & new trailer
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Kasumi1970
my name is Ted
all i am saying is Nintendo better bring this to the US!
Smiles and Cries
Member
from now on all Wii games should look this good or better or i will be pissed
so nice
so nice
yankee666
Member
Holy crap!!! This game is gonna make me shit on my pants, particularly the parts when you'r bout to grab something and a hand is pull'n you over. Damn thats scary, its gonna give me an heart attack and besides all ive only time to play games at night!!. Day one from JP, no dubt.
PD: im a masoquist
PD: im a masoquist
Stormbringer
Member
Some scans of the manual :
Looks like my late assumption that the flashlight controls used the sensor bar in some way was wrong, because these pages pretty much confirm that the game indeed doesn't use the pointing functionality for the flashlight (and that the only use of the Wiimote is to look up and down by tilting the Wiimote upward and downward). Some sequences from the videos in particular led me to believe that there was some way to look left and right with the Wiimote (which doesn't seem to be the case, as this is apparently done with the stick) but it looks like I should have stuck with my first impression which was based on the details I translated.
Now if only someone would provide us with impressions so we could have an idea of how well this system works...
Looks like my late assumption that the flashlight controls used the sensor bar in some way was wrong, because these pages pretty much confirm that the game indeed doesn't use the pointing functionality for the flashlight (and that the only use of the Wiimote is to look up and down by tilting the Wiimote upward and downward). Some sequences from the videos in particular led me to believe that there was some way to look left and right with the Wiimote (which doesn't seem to be the case, as this is apparently done with the stick) but it looks like I should have stuck with my first impression which was based on the details I translated.
Now if only someone would provide us with impressions so we could have an idea of how well this system works...
Mr. Pointy
Member
Weird, with a capital Wii.
Smiles and Cries
Member
you know this game should use "insanity effects" like that old SK game
I said before I will buy this but I dunno if I will play it :lol
I said before I will buy this but I dunno if I will play it :lol
Timekiller
Member
Now i'm starting to feel it: again, a girl involved in discovering a ritual? Shouldn't they try new directions?
Stormbringer
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Jme
Member
I know most of you said you hated the song, but if anyone is interested it is titled "ゼロの調律" or "Zero no Chouritsu" / "The Tuning of Zero" and is performed by 天野月子 / Amano Tsukiko.
She is the same performer who's songs were the themes for Fatal Frame 2 and 3.
She is the same performer who's songs were the themes for Fatal Frame 2 and 3.
Website revamped.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/r4zj/index.html#/top
Commerical 5 & 6
http://wii.com/jp/movies/wii-cm-soft159/
http://wii.com/jp/movies/wii-cm-soft160/
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/r4zj/index.html#/top
Commerical 5 & 6
http://wii.com/jp/movies/wii-cm-soft159/
http://wii.com/jp/movies/wii-cm-soft160/
BlackTyrano
Member
wtf? That makes no sense to me. Well, good horror games are very scant this gen so I'm still looking forward to this a lot.
Bah...didn't Tecmo say that they chose the Wii for the next Fatal Frame game because the controls would be just what the developers wanted for the game in years - and yet they screw the controls up like this?? And what WAS the point of Nintendo and Grasshopper's collaboration with Tecmo at this point - because the recent videos i've seen make this look almost EXACTLY like the previous Fatal Frame games in every way .
Smiles and Cries
Member
they gimped the controls?
hope thus sells like shit now
hope thus sells like shit now
Cosmonaut X
Member
Smiles and Cries said:they gimped the controls?
hope thus sells like shit now
How did they gimp the controls? They're using a different scheme from what was expected for what I assume must be good practical or philosophical reasons, but that doesn't mean the controls are borked.
And hoping it sells like shit? Seriously?
Cosmonaut X said:
Read the IGN preview, second half. The controls sound pretty retarded honestly, which is quite a shame, because when the Tecmo developers behind the game announced a reason why they were so excited with making the game for the Wii - they mentioned a control system that would be 'perfect' for this series.
Stormbringer
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Kohler's impressions :
http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/07/first-impress-1.html#more
On the controls :
Contrarily to IGN, he doesn't seem very impressed by the game's ambiance (although he admits he only played the very first, tutorial level), though he apparently likes the controls and game mechanics.
http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/07/first-impress-1.html#more
On the controls :
Contrarily to IGN, he doesn't seem very impressed by the game's ambiance (although he admits he only played the very first, tutorial level), though he apparently likes the controls and game mechanics.
Cosmonaut X
Member
ivysaur12 said:
Well, thats certainly one possible reason why the developers didnt opt for pointer control for the camera/flashlight. TBH it just seems like IGN are an hour or two into the game and pissed off because it doesnt have the control scheme they expected.
Smiles and Cries
Member
hmm damn IGN fooled me -_-
_Alkaline_
Member
I have no idea what to think about the controls anymore.
I am worried though.
I am worried though.
Stormbringer
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Well, although they didn't rant as much about the flashlight controls as they did rant about the camera controls, it didn't seem like they were terribly pleased with the former either, which is why I though I could oppose both opinions on this point specifically. That said, I'd like to hear more about these camera controls, as IGN are the only place where I've read anything about that at all.Fady K said:
If you watch this video, you'll see that you can effectively "scan" in all the directions with the flashlight. However, if the details and impressions we've had up to now are to be believed, this would be done with the combination of the stick and the remote.Nocebo said:
abstract alien
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LMAO, the waggling controller on screen really takes the little bit of "scare" this game seems to have right out. That must have been Suda's idea :lol
Mockingbird
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The girl's name is Ruka? I thought it was Madoka and she was looking for Misaki?
OK let me help you guys out there that dont understand how this game controls.
I got the game the other day and I have played it for about 2 chapters. Its fun, and scary and to by honest I am also dissapointed by the controls. I am not giving up on the game yet, but its frustrating.
When I first turn the game on you expect to be able to control your character with the analog stick and then look around with the Wii remote. This is the most obvious and natural control choice. But that is not how it works. Let me explain.
OK, first of all, the analog stick controls the walking/running of your character, that part is pretty easy.
The Wii remote is the dumb part. It controls your camera viewpoint. But not with IR with tilt sencing. So if you want to look up you angle the Wii remote up. If you want to look down you angle down. If you want to look left you turn the Wii remote left like you are turning a door nob, and right for looking right.
The flashlight is always facing straight in the direction the character is facing. When you angle up the flashlight angles up.
The whole this is so slow and clunky, and the first time I realized how the game controles I just said out loud to myself "what the fuck". Really it's such a waste of an oportunity.
So far I'm not sure if this will kill the game for me, because I have not gotten to any hard ghosts yet. But trying to take a photo of the ghosts pissed me off. Its so unnatural. You don't point at the ghost and shoot. You have to angle the remote so the camera looks up or down, and try to get the shot. It's like playing a balancing act with the camera. With slow moving ghosts its not so bad, but trying to folow a ghost around a room will be a pain in the ass I just know it.
You would have thought that the Wii with its remote would have made the controls as natural as possible. But instead it just makes this more annoying. I would be happier with just using a normal controler seriously. There is nothing to be gained by what the developers did with these controls.
This is one of those situations where I said to my self, "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?"
I'm still going to have fun with this game. But I don't know how long I'll last.
I got the game the other day and I have played it for about 2 chapters. Its fun, and scary and to by honest I am also dissapointed by the controls. I am not giving up on the game yet, but its frustrating.
When I first turn the game on you expect to be able to control your character with the analog stick and then look around with the Wii remote. This is the most obvious and natural control choice. But that is not how it works. Let me explain.
OK, first of all, the analog stick controls the walking/running of your character, that part is pretty easy.
The Wii remote is the dumb part. It controls your camera viewpoint. But not with IR with tilt sencing. So if you want to look up you angle the Wii remote up. If you want to look down you angle down. If you want to look left you turn the Wii remote left like you are turning a door nob, and right for looking right.
The flashlight is always facing straight in the direction the character is facing. When you angle up the flashlight angles up.
The whole this is so slow and clunky, and the first time I realized how the game controles I just said out loud to myself "what the fuck". Really it's such a waste of an oportunity.
So far I'm not sure if this will kill the game for me, because I have not gotten to any hard ghosts yet. But trying to take a photo of the ghosts pissed me off. Its so unnatural. You don't point at the ghost and shoot. You have to angle the remote so the camera looks up or down, and try to get the shot. It's like playing a balancing act with the camera. With slow moving ghosts its not so bad, but trying to folow a ghost around a room will be a pain in the ass I just know it.
You would have thought that the Wii with its remote would have made the controls as natural as possible. But instead it just makes this more annoying. I would be happier with just using a normal controler seriously. There is nothing to be gained by what the developers did with these controls.
This is one of those situations where I said to my self, "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?"
I'm still going to have fun with this game. But I don't know how long I'll last.
Haunted
Member
Great, they've taken a page from the Capcom playbook: 'enhance' the scariness of the game by making the controls so damn shitty that even the most retarded enemy can take you out easily. Worked in RE!
*sigh*
Control woes aside, hopefully Kohler was wrong about the atmosphere, it's the main selling point for me.
*sigh*
Control woes aside, hopefully Kohler was wrong about the atmosphere, it's the main selling point for me.
Stormbringer
Member
Ooh, alright, that's the part of the controls from which the confusion stem.samusx said:
This part specifically sounds like a bit of an awkward configuration, to be honest... I'm hoping the learning curve isn't too steep, so the player will be able to get used to it relatively quickly (though given the very divergents impressions we've had so far, this could very well vary greatly from player to player...).
Anyway, much thanks for the impressions. Keep us up-to-date with your progression !
I hope they will re think the control scheme for the western market.
it really begs to differ why they dont allow you to customise the control your self. Ive noticed this a lot with the last generation and present that developers just dont want to give you the damn freedom of re mapping the controls or at the very least have different pre set control schemes.
I really doubt Tecmo will bother changing the control scheme as im guessing its the mentallity of get it out of the door and dont look back. Surprising Nintendo didnt step in to say WTF on the control scheme.
Im just hoping with enough feed back things might change but you have to wonder what the game testers were on because from the feedback from those who have the game it sounds like a complete nightmare.
ah well sometimes you would think any game designer would have used commonn sense oh at the least someone would have stepped in and say look man i dont want to tell you this but when im trying to take a snap shot ofa ghost its like buttering a hot piece of toast.
nvm i guess 3rd parties still refuse to get it at times.
it really begs to differ why they dont allow you to customise the control your self. Ive noticed this a lot with the last generation and present that developers just dont want to give you the damn freedom of re mapping the controls or at the very least have different pre set control schemes.
I really doubt Tecmo will bother changing the control scheme as im guessing its the mentallity of get it out of the door and dont look back. Surprising Nintendo didnt step in to say WTF on the control scheme.
Im just hoping with enough feed back things might change but you have to wonder what the game testers were on because from the feedback from those who have the game it sounds like a complete nightmare.
ah well sometimes you would think any game designer would have used commonn sense oh at the least someone would have stepped in and say look man i dont want to tell you this but when im trying to take a snap shot ofa ghost its like buttering a hot piece of toast.
nvm i guess 3rd parties still refuse to get it at times.