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FFXV/Type-0 Live Stream Thread - Extended TGS Presentation (Over, archived)
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pick your developer poison bro!
DarkLordMalik
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Well they confirmed that the E3 gameplay is in, and we never saw the character switching at E3 either.
Yu Narukami
Member
Which means with commands and menu selection?
Impeccable
Member
No character switching? Honestly, I don't care.
ChosenPredator
Banned
I always figured there was no character switching with this game anyways either
names2hard4you
Member
So far, only good news in my eyes. Good stuff.
Shadow Ranger
Member
Ah, I mean dreams in a broad sense (referring to gameplay, mostly). Badly timed on my part haha.
stargateheaven
Member
The question right now is asking if the weapons are automatic, but my stream messed up.. any info?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I don;t care much about character switching either since Noctis can conjure up so many different swords but I'm wondering if the tps elements are gone now?
APZonerunner
Member
You do realize half of this has been them explaining why things have changed since then? Shorter warps with the sword are gone, here's why. Character switching is gone, here's why. Manual Weapon switching is gone, here's why, and here's an explanation of the deck system that replaces it... etc.
I'm not saying it's bad - I'm one of the people who was mega apprehensive about KH-style combat and wanted something different, and so am rather happy - that's just what they're saying! They have conflicting trailers out there and are trying to set the record straight. A great deal of this has been saying you can't do much of what was shown at E3, things have changed. And that's okay! Games shift. I'm just glad it's coming.
Can't wait for another FF game where you can manually control your party. It's been about over 10 years since then.
They've had a lot of time to make it work.
They've had a lot of time to make it work.
Pyramidbread
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Yeah, it'd have been nice to have it, but honestly, its not really a big deal.
Dr Amazon MD
Member
I'm fine with only playing as Noctis. The option would be nice I guess, but I'm glad you can jump.
Relaxed Muscle
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No proper menu select, rather buttons works as command so there's an "attack" button and a "guard" button.
HeartlessNobody213
Member
Well, there it its, you can jump, which was one of the major things that turned me off if that wasn't the case. I'm still disappointed it won't be like KH but I enjoyed the hell out of FFXII so if this is a more action type version of that then I'm in.
Nomura still going to come back like Domon with the Burning Gundam and crush the buildings with KH 3.
Nomura still going to come back like Domon with the Burning Gundam and crush the buildings with KH 3.
IAmRandom31
Banned
I dunno. This feels like a game they just need to get out there, make back their money from development ( if possible ), and forget about it. Just ... try and make it good, but just get it done and over with and then start from scratch with 16.
Forget trying to reinvent the damn wheel all the time and go back to what made you popular and rich in the first place. Cinematic battles, Summons, Tactical combat, ATB or fast FFX style queue based system, whatever. Its obvious these crazy battle systems are throwing wrenches in the wheels all the time. Happened with XII and XIII too.
DQ does not try to reinvent the wheel all the time and they still sell just as much as they always have.
Forget trying to reinvent the damn wheel all the time and go back to what made you popular and rich in the first place. Cinematic battles, Summons, Tactical combat, ATB or fast FFX style queue based system, whatever. Its obvious these crazy battle systems are throwing wrenches in the wheels all the time. Happened with XII and XIII too.
DQ does not try to reinvent the wheel all the time and they still sell just as much as they always have.
Nightengale
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The E3 trailer showed Noctis surrounded by invisible swords at all times as kind of a defensive shield.
Shadow Ranger
Member
Yeah? Type-0 has 14 unique characters. Sure, it was fairly basic but it was a decently done.
Yu Narukami
Member
Oh alright. I thought perhaps limit breaks were being discussed.
You can customize the abilities on all your buttons in LR. This doesn't seem to be the case with XV.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
How much time took Type-0?
Seems to me is just a matter of not having the luxury of time this time and having to release the damn game already.
Hey Squeenix recycle the same shit over and over! What makes the Final Fantasy series so great to many is because it always changes things up in each installment, it's not a stale conservative series, get over it.
TalentBurke
Member
Pretty disappointing that you can't switch characters, might as well only have Noctis in the game and give him everyone's abilities and weapons smh
Why do people want maincharacter switching anyway?
Majority of the time, the maincharacter is the best character to control due to skill sets and knowing that he will be in the plot and won't randomly leave your party.
And I hope you guys don't mean the stupid gimmick switching character to use a special skill gameplay eg: one character is able to break a wall, one can teleport over to a ledge.
Ughh, I hate that stuff since it delays the flow of combat and movement.
Majority of the time, the maincharacter is the best character to control due to skill sets and knowing that he will be in the plot and won't randomly leave your party.
And I hope you guys don't mean the stupid gimmick switching character to use a special skill gameplay eg: one character is able to break a wall, one can teleport over to a ledge.
Ughh, I hate that stuff since it delays the flow of combat and movement.
Nightengale
Member
Just because there's less characters doesn't mean it's less complex.
FFXV is going for a significantly larger AI involvement of the party, looking at the trailer's various contextual tag-team action and stuff like Noctis being helped by his team when injured. Those aren't easy to do.
FFXV is going for a significantly larger AI involvement of the party, looking at the trailer's various contextual tag-team action and stuff like Noctis being helped by his team when injured. Those aren't easy to do.
This is true, but perhaps they felt they needed to "fast track" the game after the director switch, so they decided to omit something that they felt wouldn't be worth the time sink in their new time line plan?
Also, they may feel that for narrative purposes that placing the focus off of the main character would create a disconnect between the player and said character?
I'm open to their vision if the game is fun, the story is good, and I don't feel underwhelmed by the time I finish the game...
...we'll see, right?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
secret dungeons...yes!
Hmm, as I said I don't know what the technical reason could be as every char must have all the walking, jumping and battle animations, anyway. Maybe someone has an idea? maybe it's an artistic choice and they want you to relate to Noctis more.
Dark_castle
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Was there a mention of weapon switching?
Because it creates the feeling of a party.
In XV you have Noctis' adventure instead and every other character just supports the player instead of being part of the party like in most other FF games.
No, I didn't expect every character to play like a completely different game. More like Type-0 with its _14_ playable characters. The core gameplay would be the same, people just had different specialities. Prompto would have maybe played a little like 3rd Birthday, the others would just have been a bit more efficient at using the weapons Noctis can also use.
you set them before the battle. No manual switching, except where you set 1 main weapon and you can use that any time.
Relaxed Muscle
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Not really, in LR each button is a "skill", in XV is a "command", so you HOLD attack and Noctis will do a combo by itself or HOLD defend/gaurd and he will keep a defensive stance to avoid damage an attacks. There's also a button for magic, we know as much.
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