The new defending system was just a means to get people off from relying on holding a button to perform homing-missile, kamikaze-style tackles. Manually jockeying/tackling + Teammate Press was the best way to defend imho, never needed to touch that stupid contain button after assigning to RB. My wish is that they get rid of contain altogether for future FIFA games and allowing automated pressure only for cpu teammates.
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FIFA 13 - First screens & info
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The new defending system was just a means to get people off from relying on holding a button to perform homing-missile, kamikaze-style tackles. Manually jockeying/tackling + Teammate Press was the best way to defend imho, never needed to touch that stupid contain button after assigning to RB. My wish is that they get rid of contain altogether for future FIFA games and allowing automated pressure only for cpu teammates.
You can do this already with super cancel can't you?
tbf this is like real football - teams who lead are then relatively more likely to concede (compared to if they were drawing/losing), so you should be more up against it if you lead.
that's not good enough imo. everyone should be the same in an online game.
Maybe if they used a sort of RPG style point system where everyone had a number of points they should put into their team to boost the different abilities that would be fine. Then people can choose to change their base team in a way that fits their play style style.
Awesome Animals
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^^Now you're talking about Ultimate Team
That's how it works. But if no one else is playing as a 1 star team, you can't expect them to conjure one out of thin air.
That's how it works. But if no one else is playing as a 1 star team, you can't expect them to conjure one out of thin air.
kobashi100
Banned
But the pressure feature was completely broken. playing online against players who just press that pressure button non stop was not enjoyable.
Unless EA can actually develop a realistic fatigue system then pressure has to go. History has shown that when it comes to fatigue, EA do not know how to get this right!
do you play with assisted controls for passing? The only way your gonna pass exactly when you want is by using full manual controls.
EA should ditch them damn assisted controls for good!
The new first touch feature sound great in theory as it makes the game more realistic. not every player should be able to trap the ball like Messi!
If I hit a bullet pass to Dirk Kuyt for example the ball should be bouncing off his foot. The stats have to actually start meaning something once on the pitch!
Just hope EA dont do another FIFA 12 and throw in Legacy first touch mode so people can go back to the old ways because they find the game too difficult.
Haunted
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Ardenyal
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That is such an annoying thing. I play a lot of Fifa and NHL and in NHL the devs have said there is no momentum... There might not be momentum but there is a stat called "intimidation" which is basically the same thing :lol Playing as away team is always a huge chore.
Awesome Animals
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Awesome needs a system where the CPU defends for him so he will stop leaking goals ALL THE TIME
I wish they would model every big team like they did with man city last year. If not please just do pedro and busquets
It's not my fault my Irish defenders can't defend your Irish Strikers (if you can call them that). We need a rematch of the greatest Irish derby of all time soon.
Awesome needs a system where the CPU defends for him so he will stop leaking goals ALL THE TIME
I wish they would model every big team like they did with man city last year. If not please just do pedro and busquets
They said they're doing 300+ teams this time. I don't believe them.
Btw, they're adding the Saudi Arabia league + 2 second division teams from the same country. I guess there is money involved.
And looks like the Czech and Turk leagues are back.
I hope they finally add the Argentina league, or at least one new latin america league.
True, but its definitely a step up from having tackles be automatic. As far as teammate press is concerned, they could actually have cpu players just covering passing lanes instead of rushing in to steal the ball. Have it be stats-dependent so that only players with aggressive traits automatically tackle?
Well, is kind of how it currently works. The best DM/CBs usually can even tackle on their own and there's an interceptions stat too.
kobashi100
Banned
if they could do that and make the stats more dependent then great but I have huge doubts EA could pull that off.
Haunted
Member
I don't think I can get excited by yet another current generation update.
A next generation overhaul of the graphics engine is what the genre needs to get people hyped.
Every grass blade with its own physics or bust.
A next generation overhaul of the graphics engine is what the genre needs to get people hyped.
Every grass blade with its own physics or bust.
That is the kind of obvious graphical shit we need to improve on before we can talk about it being a realistic depiction of the sport.Can't find a video but here it is:
both obviously
Don'tBeWeird
Member
Eh, that first touch feature sounds quite worrying.
Do not punish the player for trying to pass the ball around. Hopefully it's not what I think it means.
Do not punish the player for trying to pass the ball around. Hopefully it's not what I think it means.
Awesome Animals
Member
I think the idea is to punish the people who ping-pong the ball around. At least I hope.
You left out Bayern in that list
kobashi100
Banned
if it stops Bolton passing the ball around like they are Barcelona then this is a good thing.
The ping pong football has to go, it is unrealistic!
You gotta appeal to the majority of your userbase somehow. I still beat them online with Benfica though, so I'm alright. People who pick those teams usually don't know how to handle the CPU pressure while you cut the passing lines.
Portugeezer
Member
First Touch Control
One of the first things to do at FIFA 13 was to implement a more realistic ball control.Now it will be more difficult to control a receiving ball with your player.It all depends on the strength, the speed, the ball height and the technical skills of your player to achieve the control of the ball and run with it.
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Make the game even easier for all the Barcelona whores... Ugh.
One of the first things to do at FIFA 13 was to implement a more realistic ball control.Now it will be more difficult to control a receiving ball with your player.It all depends on the strength, the speed, the ball height and the technical skills of your player to achieve the control of the ball and run with it.
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Make the game even easier for all the Barcelona whores... Ugh.
Yeah. It's always funny how good players have decent ratings in lower teams, but then if a big team buys them they suddenly become world star players for no apparent reason.
Barkley's Justice
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I haven't bought a soccer game since FIFA 2002 on PS2 although I'm sort of interested...This looks intimidating as all hell though...
Cornballer
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Hmmm, I'll have to play the demo and see some footage on FIFA13 when the time comes. I didn't end up playing a lot of FIFA12 since my VP got erased pretty early and I gave up on it at that point. As always, the changes sound like they're good, but it hinges on how they feel in game.
I'll believe it when I see it. When you can't even fully model Barca,Real, man united and Chelsea it is worrying. I'll take those before 300+ teams
You left out Bayern in that list
I'm obviously biased, but a lot of players (specially the defense, being the 2nd best one in Europe top leagues) are very underrated. Alaba is 75, Badstuber 80, Luiz Gustavo 80... Schweinsteiger is not longer a "complete midfielder" for some reason.
Gómez is hugely overrated. Robben and Ribéry are alright.
Exactly!
Yeah, this too. I'd rather have quality > quantity. I understand the marketing value in ridiculous numbers, but more than half of the game's players and teams look like amateur shit. They can't even get simple stuff like kits and badges right at times.
And this unlicensed Brazil national team thing needs to die already.
Don'tBeWeird
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I don't agree with this. Why can't Bolton play like Barcelona under a good player? The quality of the teams should come second to the quality of the person playing, IMO. This is why we get everyone playing as Barcelona, because even the shittest player can beat a highly skilled player playing with slightly inferior team. I don't want it to be that way.
Gamecocks625
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First Touch Control, eh?
It's like FIFA 2005 all over again! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2SfPV4KXxA
It's like FIFA 2005 all over again! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2SfPV4KXxA
The quality of the team is more important than the quality of the player. But still, if you know how to play the game and face a shit player using Barcelona/Real Madrid you should be able to defeat them with a 3-4 star team.
360º movement!
well, I don't know about gomez
but the rest is actually underrated. especially kroos, alaba and badstuberimmortal-joe
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It's fucking embarrassing how bad it is. Seriously, fix it.
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It's fucking embarrassing how bad it is. Seriously, fix it.
Awesome Animals
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Manchester United better be licensed team this time!!!!! Especially with Shinji Kagawa on his way there
They already are licensed. You must be thinking of Pro Evo.
Manchester United better be licensed team this time!!!!! Especially with Shinji Kagawa on his way there
Man United is licensed, they have kits, stadium and everything else. They just need to do the photo thing to add all the faces, etc.
Unlicensed is when they have generic logo, kits, faces. Like 99% of the teams in the Serie B.
Portugeezer
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They are licensed in PES.
I think he means faces, in pro evo man uniteds players are totally modelled
Because that's nonsense. In a perfect FIFA world, the player using Bolton would be able to beat Barcelona if he was skilled enough, but Bolton should never be allowed to play like Barcelona. What the fuck.
mocolostrocolos
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I'm not very excited about this as I was about 12.
Don'tBeWeird
Member
And I will continue to disagree with this mentality every single time, even if I'm in the minority. I don't want the whole "well you won because you picked a slightly better team" to be a valid excuse.
But you see, this new First Touch Control feature is the opposite of that cos you're now less likely able to receive a pass with such perfection! lol
Awesome Animals
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But that isn't what he is arguing. A player shouldn't be able to play like Barcelona if he is playing as Bolton because Bolton doesn't have the personnel to play like Barcelona. He should utilize the strengths of Bolton to beat his opponent. And Bolton is worse than Barcelona, so if someone is playing as Bolton, it should be a slightly uphill battle to beat Real Madrid, or Tottenham, or really any team in the top divisions based on their season.
PapaJustify
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Seems like they are running out of ideas.
kobashi100
Banned
because the stats should mean something. At the moment they don't!
yes a good player can do well with Bolton but they shouldn't be able to pass the ball around so easily and accurately as they do at the moment.
Even vs the CPU on World class and above the game becomes silly as all the CPU teams pass the ball with ease with very little mistakes.