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Final Fantasy XII (PS2) is still a gorgeous game
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The 1st thing I'd like in an HD remaster would be a streaming world, or at least having to load only between major areas. It would need a bit of reworking done on a few things, but it really would help the game feel more fluid and enjoyable. While it could be bearable in the corridor type ffx, here it's really jarring with the open design and such.
I love Rabanastre but navigating through it is made a chore by this. It was nearly unbearable with disc loading, better but still annoying with HD loader / emulator.
I love Rabanastre but navigating through it is made a chore by this. It was nearly unbearable with disc loading, better but still annoying with HD loader / emulator.
Spiritwalker
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[Fugo];165109332 said:
Almost guaranteed not to happen. I'd be very surprised if they put this much effort into a remaster.
It's glorious in PCSX2
Yup, one of the first games I tried with PCSX2, upped the res and was blown away by all the details I never noticed when playing it on PS2.
Vincent Grayson
Member
This will always be my favorite scene in the game: Ashe and the Occuria.
Most of those are from PCSX2. Only one GIF, the blurred one, is from the orignal.
manipulate
Member
The game looks amazing, amazing, amazing on PCSX2. So much detail and the art direction is wonderful.
I loved the combat system, but the game's narrative suffered a lot from the pacing. It had a surprisingly mature and intelligent script, that ultimately went nowhere but still.. respected your intelligence, in the end.
One of the stronger FFs, easily.
I loved the combat system, but the game's narrative suffered a lot from the pacing. It had a surprisingly mature and intelligent script, that ultimately went nowhere but still.. respected your intelligence, in the end.
One of the stronger FFs, easily.
FFXIII felt like a massive, massive regression in comparison
Athreous
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Valkyrie Profile 2 *-*
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
It doesn't sound ridiculous at all. A lot of people have that one game they would buy a console for and if it's one of your favourite games ever then that sounds like a good reason to me.
The cutscene models were so good for the time too. Ashe's hands put Lightning potato fingers to shame.
Hahahahah Lightning's nose probably has more polygons than both her arms combined.
I must be the only one who wants an altered redux of the game. Better pacing, less emphasis on Vaan, more focus on Ashe, Balthier and Basch. Additional cutscenes that flesh out the world and characters, the IZJS, stuff like that.
Gotta say one of the best things about COD:AW was hanging out with Balthier the entire campaign haha
Gotta say one of the best things about COD:AW was hanging out with Balthier the entire campaign haha
I also hope the remaster will let us control any character in the cities. That way I'll never have to see Vaan again.
Indeed Lightning arms are really low poly for a ps3 game, they put everything they had on the faces.
Indeed Lightning arms are really low poly for a ps3 game, they put everything they had on the faces.
Nothing yet as it's only just come out. PS3/Vita sales are a better indicator as it's been out for over a year.
I really didn't mind Vaan at all - in fact, I appreciated the idea of playing as the guy who's just along for the ride. To me it was very refreshing at the time, having just come off a binge of FFVII - X which all featured main characters who had dramatic romances and were heavily involved with saving the world. I can understand why fans of the series might be discouraged by the sudden shift though, and Vaan's character certainly wouldn't appeal to everyone (especially when other members of the cast are so badass).
Penelo was also a vast improvement over her equivalents in the previous games, I thought. Much more tolerable than Yuffie, Selphie and Rikku. Can't speak for FFXIII as everything about it seemed so off-putting I haven't even tried it yet.
Another thing: even now on a second playthrough, trying to pay more attention to the story this time, I find myself forgetting what's going on. I think this is a testament to how much fun the exploration and combat is: it's so tempting to go off on hunts and experiment with Gambits. That said, I also suspect that the story is indeed forgettable, as I barely remembered anything from the first playthrough. Still my favourite FF though.
Penelo was also a vast improvement over her equivalents in the previous games, I thought. Much more tolerable than Yuffie, Selphie and Rikku. Can't speak for FFXIII as everything about it seemed so off-putting I haven't even tried it yet.
Another thing: even now on a second playthrough, trying to pay more attention to the story this time, I find myself forgetting what's going on. I think this is a testament to how much fun the exploration and combat is: it's so tempting to go off on hunts and experiment with Gambits. That said, I also suspect that the story is indeed forgettable, as I barely remembered anything from the first playthrough. Still my favourite FF though.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I absolutely love FF XII, but the story does kind of fall apart around the middle of the game, and doesn't really pick up until the end of the game.
Also, the final boss is a cakewalk if every character in your team has a bubble belt equipped.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I started playing the game again because of this thread, and goddamn, I've fallen in love with it in a way that I didn't the first time. This game is incredible at nearly every level.
It doesn't really "fall apart." There are complete, consistent, and satisfying storylines for Basch and Ashe (the two main characters) across the entire game.
The pace of the narrative slows down a lot, though. There's far more meat on FFXII's bones than there are on any other non-MMO numbered Final Fantasy. I don't know why this means it falls apart, though. If anything, the "falls apart" portion of FFXII is thematically far more consistent with Final Fantasy than anything in the first portion of the game.
I would marry this game if I could.
The pace of the narrative slows down a lot, though. There's far more meat on FFXII's bones than there are on any other non-MMO numbered Final Fantasy. I don't know why this means it falls apart, though. If anything, the "falls apart" portion of FFXII is thematically far more consistent with Final Fantasy than anything in the first portion of the game.
I would marry this game if I could.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
It doesn't "fall apart" in that it's non-existent, but it just kinda.. stops and nothing really major happens until towards the end of the game. I still love the game to bits though.
Maybe except the Pharos at Ridorana, but that's just because it goes on and on and on and gets kinda tedious and boring
TetraGenesis
Member
God, if they finally announce the Remaster at their press conference I'll shit.
Sales for the PS4 version are not yet known. But as far as PS3/Vita goes, the sales of FFX/X-2 HD should be around 700k, which makes it one of the best selling remasters.
I hope Verendus is right and that FFXII HD is already a thing. It is the only game of which I only played a few hours before my PS2 died for good.
I bought 3 copies of FFX/X-2 HD on Vita (digital English, Japanese Twin Pack and individual physical copies of both in English) and the PS3 version. Now let's hope Square stays true to their word.
Pls SQEX, make FFXII HD happen! I'll buy 2 PS4 versions (and I don't have a PS4 yet) as long as you give us this:
Quoting something I made in photoshop in another thread sometime ago, just for the feels of all fellow Vita owners out there.
Just for kicks...
CopperPuppy
Member
One of my favorite games ever. An HD remake is probably one of my most desired things in gaming, especially if it includes IZJS.
As others have said, the detail and design of the world is top-tier in the medium. For the story, I actually appreciate the fly-on-the-wall approach to the protagonist, as it stood in clear contrast to the sole heroic savior trend of past games (not to take anything away from those games - I count FFVII and IX among my favorite games as well).
And say what you will about the lack of typical FF twists and turns in the plot - I personally loved XII's measured approach in creating a plausible geopolitical conflict and teasing out the individual character maneuverings from that foundation.
As others have said, the detail and design of the world is top-tier in the medium. For the story, I actually appreciate the fly-on-the-wall approach to the protagonist, as it stood in clear contrast to the sole heroic savior trend of past games (not to take anything away from those games - I count FFVII and IX among my favorite games as well).
And say what you will about the lack of typical FF twists and turns in the plot - I personally loved XII's measured approach in creating a plausible geopolitical conflict and teasing out the individual character maneuverings from that foundation.
neoism
Member
most definitely was gorgeous then and now... the remaster will be insane at 1080p
"Bah-sck" and "Ah-she" is how I always pronounced them. Makes "I am Captain Basch Von Rosenburg of Dalamascia" flow, IMO.
TheDanimal
Junior Member
I played Revenant Wings back when it came out, but never got to play the original.
I would be very excited to get to play an HD remaster
Come on Square!
I would be very excited to get to play an HD remaster
Come on Square!
I want to be your friend. I agree with petty much all of this. Vayne largely disappears about 2/3rds in, just like Kefka and Sephiroth, but the overall plot is defined at that point. Getting the urge to replay. Only section I hated was Lighthouse of Pheros.
LeoDiBlack
Neo Member
The story is bad?
Every game that takes place on Ivalice has an awesome story or why you say that FFXII has a bad story?
It can be a little tricky but... man, the characters, the side-quests, those maps... and the music! that glorious OST
Mendax
Member
story-wise or in combat? or both?
me and my younger bro always left him out of our combat party because we thought he was weak(er than the rest) lol.
hmm it might be a little cliché what with the small peaceful country stuck between belligerent empires and it's princess going undercover and shit. But I still love it. And I always thought of it as nothing but epic. Star Wars influences make it even more so.
Suzushiiro
Banned
Keep in mind that Squeenix was years behind on the HD remaster bandwagon- they didn't really start doing them until 2013. XII did sell worse than X, but not by that much, and it sold *more* than either Kingdom Hearts game, and those got the remaster treatment.
I'd expect an announcement at one of the conferences this year. Maybe E3, maybe TGS.
Of course it will get a remaster, it's easy money.
Character-wise.
There are tons of wonderfully written little moments like this across the game. "The Wood longs for you."
This game does not get enough credit for how well written it is.
Narratively, the game is pretty Star Wars. It even has its own, "I am your father," moment with Gabranth at the Pharos. Except it is, "I killed your father," but close enough.
witchedwiz
Member
noticed you left out Vaan's abs
I don't understand how the game looks so good but Vaan's texture is so bad.
because he's the hero we didn't want, but since we're bad people he's the hero we deserve...
lmao :X
on a side note, I'd welcome it, though I'd prefer a zodiac edition, but i'm a sucker and I'd bite even the normal...
While it's not HD resolution FFI and II on PSP are the best examples of being early to the bandwagon.