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[creid]

No doubt but I recon M$ has made some sort of deal with $E regarding bundle exclusivity and marketing (only 360 ads :/ ).

More like three $ixty, amirite?

 

[riceandbeans]

confirmed without vague pixel counting of press screenshots - retail 360 game runs at 576p, image below has not been resized

What I don't get is if all of the cut-scenes have been compressed with Bink, what's the point of having them at 576p and not just upscale to 720p?

 

[WrikaWrek]

Still though, it's one of the best looking games in the market right?

 

[Firestorm]

Still though, it's one of the best looking games in the market right?

Not with that level of macroblocking holy crap :lol (Unless it's the jpeg compression in which case my bad)

 

[Replicant]

confirmed without vague pixel counting of press screenshots - retail 360 game runs at 576p, image below has not been resized

That looks like one hell of a bad compression. Like JPG put at 50% or lower.

 

[fernoca]

What I don't get is if all of the cut-scenes have been compressed with Bink, what's the point of having them at 576p and not just upscale to 720p?

Well, the native resolution seems to be 576p..but the game is upscaled at whatever resolution you have set your Xbox 360 (720p, 1080p)..

Though still seem weird move, considering that they left around 2GB of data and in the worst case scenario, they could've negotiated something with Microsoft to release the game in 4 discs , but for some reason they decided to settle at 3 discs..

 

[Syvere]

What I don't get is if all of the cut-scenes have been compressed with Bink, what's the point of having them at 576p and not just upscale to 720p?

Lower resolution means smaller filesize.

 

[Jurai]

the compression is pretty obvious in motion too, if you're buying this game for graphics bliss, go ps3

 

[Vamphuntr]

So even the fmvs run at 576p? What the hell. At least they could have tried the SO4 route.

 

[Conrad Link]

Worldwide =/= Japan :lol

I said English!

 

[fernoca]

That looks like one hell of a bad compression. Like JPG put at 50% or lower.

Well, is a "print-screened" picture..saved as jpeg, so some "additional" compression is expected.

 

[Durante]

confirmed without vague pixel counting of press screenshots - retail 360 game runs at 576p, image below has not been resized

Wait, am I getting this right? They encoded the FMV at 576p?

 

[Haunted]

confirmed without vague pixel counting of press screenshots - retail 360 game runs at 576p, image below has not been resized

 

[Vamphuntr]

Not with that level of macroblocking holy crap :lol (Unless it's the jpeg compression in which case my bad)

It's really apparent on the pillars in that pic. Hope it's jpg compression for SQE's sake.

 

[Jurai]

good thing bink can convert bink videos to self contained playable exes...

prepare to be disappointed

and trust me, it's not jpg compression.

 

[Vamphuntr]

good thing bink can convert bink videos to self contained playable exes...

prepare to be disappointed

and trust me, it's not jpg compression.

oh WOW.

 

[Kadey]

I'll be making custom covers like I did with SFIV.

 

[Jurai]

http://rapidshare.com/files/358098914/ff13z00.x360.zip.html

self playing, no additional compression has been applied, what you see is what you're gonna get on 360

also, no spoilers contained within

 

[fernoca]

Well, Bink compressed videos tend to look "heavily compressed"..and with artifacts and stuff...usually in darker-colors (black, gray, brown)...

Though it may still look really good; when even many 480i/p DVD movies..when upscaled to 720p look quite nice. Obviously no "OMG 1080p nice"..but still nice. .

 

[Jurai]

 

[InfiniteNine]

I'll be making custom covers like I did with SFIV.

Mind posting the files for them so I can replace mine?

 

[TTP]

Still though, it's one of the best looking games in the market right?

Definitely. Especially compared to most Japanese productions nowadays.

 

[Replicant]

Where's the ass?

and trust me, it's not jpg compression.

Not that I'd buy it on anything but PS3 but my friend is going to throw shitstorm when she finds out....

 

[Kadey]

Mind posting the files for them so I can replace mine?

What? The covers for SFIV?

 

[DR2K]

Damn that looks so blurry. 576p = nasty.

 

[Jurai]

heres a good 360 cover

 

[TTP]

You call that good?

I'm sure I've seen better somewhere else on GAF

edit - oh, it was a joke.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Why heck did Bink video get popular on Xbox platforms or heck used on PS3 too when there are such superior video codecs?

I remember back in the PS2/Xbox days the Bink Xbox FMV were always heavily compressed and thus worse than the standard MPEG2 vids that tend to be in the PS2 counterparts.

 

[InfiniteNine]

What? The covers for SFIV?

No, the FFXIII ones when you make them.

 

[Yoshichan]

:lol >_<

You call that good?

I'm sure I've seen better somewhere else on GAF

It was a joke (JPG-compressed as heck!)

 

[fernoca]

Oh!
I get the joke! .."compressed cover "...

 

[Jurai]

the blatant over apply of compression was a joke

 

[Replicant]

heres a good 360 cover

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Durante]

Damn that looks so blurry. 576p = nasty.

The problem there is not primarily the resolution, but the data rate. For comparison, DVDs have an average data rate of around 5 Mbit/s.

Why heck did Bink video get popular on Xbox platforms or heck used on PS3 too when there are such superior video codecs?

I also wonder about that, I assume it's performance and/or licencing costs.

 

[riceandbeans]

Looked fine to me. Only part that looked heavily compressed and bothering was the beginning when the camera was zoomed out. Other than that, it's completely watchable. No huge blocks or tearing. It's no 1080p, but it's aight. Gaming sites and most definently N4G are gonna make a shitstorm out of this though.

 

[Jurai]

Why heck did Bink video get popular on Xbox platforms or heck used on PS3 too when there are such superior video codecs?

I remember back in the PS2/Xbox days the Bink Xbox FMV were always heavily compressed and thus worse than the standard MPEG2 vids that tend to be in the PS2 counterparts.

I'm not actually sure why so many devs switched, but almost all recent 360 games use Bink instead of WMV now. I'm not really sure if it gives better quality per bitrate or not, I know that it DOES support a shit ton of audio streams in one file though, letting you use one video file with all the multilinqual surround tracks embedded at once

 

[BertramCooper]

http://rapidshare.com/files/358098914/ff13z00.x360.zip.html

self playing, no additional compression has been applied, what you see is what you're gonna get on 360

also, no spoilers contained within

Any chance you can upload that again? It says it's reached the max number of downloads.

 

[Firestorm]

Damn that looks so blurry. 576p = nasty.

That's not because it's 576p.

 

[Vamphuntr]

heres a good 360 cover

:lol :lol :lol . Embarassing for SQE.

 

[Jurai]

Video file mirror - http://www.sendspace.com/file/h8kyb8

self playing BINK video, no spoiler within, no additional compression has been applied, this is what you're gonna see when you play on a 360

 

[DR2K]

That's not because it's 576p.

Reminds me of Star Ocean 4 battles. Which was around 576p iirc.

 

[Relix]

Holy shit.... holy... shit :lol I might just go Resonance of Fate route now =P. In fact, I am gonna do that. 360 version seems atrocious everywhere. The FMVs looking that bad seal the deal for me. Pathetic work SE.

 

[Kadey]

No, the FFXIII ones when you make them.

I'll show it in a minute.

 

[Y2Kev]

Reminds me of Star Ocean 4 battles. Which was around 576p iirc.

I think they were like 490p....

Yes, 8xxX496...

 

[Vamphuntr]

Video file mirror - http://www.sendspace.com/file/h8kyb8

self playing BINK video, no spoiler within, no additional compression has been applied, this is what you're gonna see when you play on a 360

Bink video compression is really awful. Dear god the screen is not even ''clean''. You can see artifacts during the whole clip .

 

[Firestorm]

Reminds me of Star Ocean 4 battles. Which was around 576p iirc.

I think they were lower :lol But yeah, the reason it is "blurry" is because of the terrible bitrate. Images only look blurry due to resolution if it is rendered at a lower resolution and scaled up (like a 480p / 576p / 720p picture on a 1080p tv). That image is at its native resolution.

Bink video compression is really awful. Dear god the screen is not even ''clean''. You can see artifacts during the whole clip .

shimmering all over yeah

 

[Jurai]

I think the artifacts are actually just screen tearing from refresh rate differences, not problems in the actual video. the compression problem is pretty obvious though


edit: http://www.sendspace.com/file/h8kyb8 <- ff13 FMV from 360 (to keep it on last page)

 

[Y2Kev]

Well what did you guys expect, they compressed 32gb of FMV by basically 50%. Kind of impressive really!

The FMV at 1080p are really stunningly beautiful, though. Sad result but kind of inevitable.

 

[chubigans]

Anyone have some more pics of that vid that aren't jpg, like PNGs? I can post some later tonight once I'm home.

 

[DR2K]

So in game PS3 version is native 720p?