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Final Fantasy XV Judgment Disc Demo Has PS4 Pro Enhancements @ 1080p
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xion4360
Member
it doesnt have an uncapped framerate at lightweight.
Enhanced mode looks good but with framerate drops aplenty while lightweight looks like base PS4 at a solid 30fps (aside from the opening bits for some reason, once you are free to roam at hammerhead it smooths out.)
Im playing on a 4k tv so maybe thats why its not running as smooth.
Enhanced mode looks good but with framerate drops aplenty while lightweight looks like base PS4 at a solid 30fps (aside from the opening bits for some reason, once you are free to roam at hammerhead it smooths out.)
Im playing on a 4k tv so maybe thats why its not running as smooth.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Someone who can actually play, finally.
NoctisVsStar
Member
You can only get this demo via JP psn.
Btw I really hope that the improved AF that really makes the textures shine is going to be available in the 4K mode, otherwise given the fact that HDR will be available in both modes and 1080p mode will have much better frame rate as well, I guess this could be even best played in 1080p mode (which is still a resolution improvement from dynamic 900-1080p in standard PS4).
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yep, *strokes Pro*, this will be glorious.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Same!
I didn't realize we had an extra thread. Please don't mind me cross-posting:
Here a few examples of OG PS4 settings and PS4 Pro settings.
For the best comparison open each screenshot in it's own browser tab and then click back and forth between them.
Here a few examples of OG PS4 settings and PS4 Pro settings.
For the best comparison open each screenshot in it's own browser tab and then click back and forth between them.
OG PS4:
PS4 Pro:
OG PS4:
PS4 Pro:
OG PS4:
PS4 Pro:
OG PS4:
PS4 Pro:
I honestly barely see any difference, other than the bushes having a different color :/
In general the biggest imProvements
that I could make out are:- anisotropic filtering
- higher resolution shadow maps
- higher quality ambient occlusion
- higher LOD
- more prominent lighting and light shafts
- better antialiasing solution
There are definetly a wide array of small improvements.
Better vegatation, higher res lighting (see how light has not granular transitions in the wooden hut screen) and better image quality overall (see Prompto's arm in the sunset screens).
In the other screens much better AF was also evident.
There is also better ambient occlusion in the restaurant shots.
Each of them does not make a huge difference but added up it's a really nice improvement.
I wonder how many of these upgrades will carry at 4K because HDR will also be available in 1080p with a better frame rate as well.
Better vegatation, higher res lighting (see how light has not granular transitions in the wooden hut screen) and better image quality overall (see Prompto's arm in the sunset screens).
In the other screens much better AF was also evident.
There is also better ambient occlusion in the restaurant shots.
Each of them does not make a huge difference but added up it's a really nice improvement.
I wonder how many of these upgrades will carry at 4K because HDR will also be available in 1080p with a better frame rate as well.
LMAO! I can just imagine the steam coming out of your ears when you read that I like 60 fps games.
I played the demo yesterday for a bit on my OG PS4. The game looks great when standing still like in these screenshots, but FYI the IQ falls apart when you start moving around. It is some sort of TAA because you can watch the IQ improve when you stand still. Environment shadows have really bad dithering, especially during the day.
Overall though, game looks good and has decent performance. With the downsampling, I'm sure the IQ is much nicer in motion on the Pro.
Overall though, game looks good and has decent performance. With the downsampling, I'm sure the IQ is much nicer in motion on the Pro.
butman
Member
In general the biggest imProvements
- anisotropic filtering
- higher resolution shadow maps
- higher quality ambient occlusion
- higher LOD
- more prominent lighting and light shafts
- better antialiasing solution
Thank you. Things that I will never notice when the game sucks me in.
Stick with OG PS4.
DangerMouse
Member
Same. Hype!
That first one in the OP is real good for showing both the improvements in more detail in the distant mountains and slightly cleaner tower and the closeup road at the same time.
The rocks/plateau/mountainous things could stand to look a lot better.
DangerMouse
Member
This looks significant enough.
Agreed, it's true the mountains could be a little fancier but this plus the considerably less smearing of the road in the other shots are a rather nice start in some of these shots even without seeing the demo yet on my own. Hope they really make their future more dedicated Pro patch later while working on the DLC.
And that extra AA on the closeups like Septimus pointed out in those sun-bathed shots.
Can't wait to see their even cleaner 4K mode.
SoraanTribal
Member
This is the game that is tempting me to get a PS4 Pro soon. I've been waiting for this game forever, and I kind of want to play the best version. Just not sure if I want to drop that much money for minimal improvements (especially since I don't have a 4k TV).
I've been waiting for this game forever, and I kind of want to play the best version. Just not sure if I want to drop that much money for minimal improvements (especially since I don't have a 4k TV).dragonzdogma
Member
Does pro version have dynamic res or is it 1080p always?
It should be locked resolution.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Excellent, Pro version has less dithering on the hair too.
Lion Heart
Banned
Vegetation is massively improved and less sparse.
So these TVs can enable HDR without any 4k content? That's good because I was assuming that HDR is only possible on 4k. Never really checked that out.
omnislayer
Member
The original ps4 can do HDR despite not supporting 4k.
John Wick
Member
Geez I wonder what it must be like for you watching 24fps movies? Shit man must be terrible watching it in slow motion frame by frame.
Not all games need to be 60fps. And if your one of those that somehow can't cope with 30fps because it's an unplayable slideshow then you should stick to high-end PC.
Movies aren't interactive. Games are.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
Yeah, while it looks better, really the only thing I notice is the slightly higher resolution (which is a good thing), and better foliage.
I'll be much more interested in seeing what the game looks and runs like with the post-release Pro update. My sense is that Pro support for a lot of these games has been rushed to meet the Pro release, or holiday launch, and that we'll start to see a much more significant difference in graphics/performance with the second wave of releases.
I'll be much more interested in seeing what the game looks and runs like with the post-release Pro update. My sense is that Pro support for a lot of these games has been rushed to meet the Pro release, or holiday launch, and that we'll start to see a much more significant difference in graphics/performance with the second wave of releases.
The fact that pro in enhanced gfx mode runs with a lot of framerate fluctuations doesnt sound very good... and kinda makes me wonder about the 4k mode.
Seriously according to Sony we shouldnt be having such discussions around the Pro. And yes this is a demo, but we have quite a few similar examples with released games.
Hope they fix these.
Seriously according to Sony we shouldnt be having such discussions around the Pro. And yes this is a demo, but we have quite a few similar examples with released games.
Hope they fix these.
Primethius
Banned
It doesn't really need it though. This isn't DMC or NG. The demo plays perfectly fine and you never really feel at all hindered by the framerate given how well it controls now (the lack of FPS drops help).
Funny that you comment on how much better it feels with a better framerate in the same sentence saying we don't need a better framerate.
Primethius
Banned
Yea, because:
There's a pretty big difference between 60 FPS, 30 FPS, and the Duscae demo which dropped frames from 30 FPS down into the 20's like no one's business.
Nachtfalke
Member
Gamersyde has some coverage with HQ videos of both versions from the PS4 Pro:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_videos_of_the_new_ffxv_demo-18550_en.html
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_videos_of_the_new_ffxv_demo-18550_en.html
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
In general the biggest imProvements
- anisotropic filtering
- higher resolution shadow maps
- higher quality ambient occlusion
- higher LOD
- more prominent lighting and light shafts
- better antialiasing solution
Better AO too: http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/11...rate-graphics-settings-screenshot-comparison/
On the door behind the seller and in other instances.
not only on the hair but also on the shadows and and lit areas.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Looking forward to the 4k rendering mode.
xion4360
Member
just tried out the xbox one version. impressed with how solid the performance is...just a couple minor singular or so framedrops in spots and minor instances of screentearing...but switching back to the pro right after its like...HOOOOOLY shit the difference is HUGE.
A couple little tweaks need to be made
HDR in general on all platforms is just terrible.. looks washed out with brightness, too intense contrast and odd colors...dont think they have this right yet.
PRO specifically -
when you get in cover by pressing square next to walls the resolution drops dramatically for some reason. seems like a weird bug
the hair at times...its at a point where its ok I guess but maybe they can clean it up just a bit more.
and finally fix the framerate, should be able to run perfectly at 30fps in 1080p...and this is exactly what I want from this game.. I hope theres still this 1080P enhanced mode in the final game with polish.. seems like they were able to do this rather quickly and they are still working on the pro aspects so fingers crossed this game delivers. its so close!
A couple little tweaks need to be made
HDR in general on all platforms is just terrible.. looks washed out with brightness, too intense contrast and odd colors...dont think they have this right yet.
PRO specifically -
when you get in cover by pressing square next to walls the resolution drops dramatically for some reason. seems like a weird bug
the hair at times...its at a point where its ok I guess but maybe they can clean it up just a bit more.
and finally fix the framerate, should be able to run perfectly at 30fps in 1080p...and this is exactly what I want from this game.. I hope theres still this 1080P enhanced mode in the final game with polish.. seems like they were able to do this rather quickly and they are still working on the pro aspects so fingers crossed this game delivers. its so close!
I just cant believe that Tabata and his team have not implemented a way for vegetation and other objects that obstruct your line of view to fade away or disappear like it happens in every other game out there.
You dont have to be a rocket scientist to realise that the camera is pure shit when you are surrounded by trees and bushes...
You dont have to be a rocket scientist to realise that the camera is pure shit when you are surrounded by trees and bushes...
I really wish the camera was a not farther back from noctis.
xion4360
Member
Both the high and low options are 30fps on this demo...low option keeps it solid while the high has drops.
Final game is supposed to be unlocked on low mode.
Movalpolos
Banned
Yup, played this on Pro. It's stunning. OG PS4 is no slouch either.
Depth of field blur?
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