Psychological Intellect
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I really hope there is no auto attack
Or we can turn it off.
Or we can turn it off.
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Final Fantasy XV tech demo presentation by Tabata (Demo gameplay details added)
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I thought it was holding the attack button while you switch weapons when performing combos?
Night_Knight
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There's a certain sense of scale and hustle n' bustle that some FFs have (IX and XII) that's only really conveyed through the art direction.
With these models and this animation, Square can make those senses palpable in FFXV. If it would be as lively as these fights are, even a very small town or an inn with patrons would be cooler than a boss fight to me, yes.
One of the things I play FF for is the quiet moments. The brief respites.
Psychological Intellect
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Sasuke
By control I meant that there will be a bigger disconnect between me holding down the attack button while Notics's doing fancy stuffs than me mashing the attack button while Notics's doing fancy stuffs. I'd feel my in-sync with my character if each of his actions correspond to each of my button presses. Holding it will just makes me feel off.
Hibiki Kurosawa
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Oh shit. I suppose it's possible they could know by now when it will release (or by the time the demo releases, but they promised something special so I think they'd need to know by now). That would fit though. I could see them doing that and it would be wondeful!
I agree with that part. Button mashing during tense moments feels incredibly satisfying at times.
You should stop thinking about this game as an action title and more as an expanded version of FF12, probably.
I definitely do not agree that you should think of what they themselves are calling an action-RPG more in the terms of FFXII, one of the most strategic games in the series.
My guess is he took Nomura's work and anglicized the characters.
But XII is no where near an action RPG though.
He's doing some side characters I believe.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Yeah, I don't think it's fair compare XII and XV, either.
Supposedly, according to the current director, this game is no longer an action game. And if we're gonna have autoattack and autodefend buttons, then I won't be considering it an action game either.
This is a valid complaint.
I think a simple workaround would be to have an option. Either have "Chain" as on or off. It's a little thing, but it would then allow button bashing, but also more continuous play for those who don't feel like pressing circle all the time. Easier to grind with "Chain" on though. I wonder how feasible that would be.
I'd wait for more information from SE anyway. My information is dated, and who knows what they've done since then, or will end up doing in the future. I want to say their demo will be most indicative of the final product, but then I remember that FFXIII thing someone pointed out...
I don't think SE would allow an option for such a core mechanic. Kinda disappointing.
Someone on Reddit has a question.
[–]from alphadog3939 sent 18 minutes ago
I was following the neogaf thread on ffxv, and you popped in and thanked the person who linked to the reddit thread that had the translations.
Anyways, would you mind private messaging the member 'Verendus' ? He gave some details in that thread and he's apparently an insider. Would you mind asking him when the game is planning on releasing - at least what he's been hearing?
I would, but I don't have an account.
[–]to alphadog3939 sent 15 minutes ago
Verendus has been asked that question before and he doesn't know. He doesn't have any guesses either.
[–]from alphadog3939 sent 2 minutes ago
was he asked that recently though? if so, do you have a link?
[–]from alphadog3939 sent 18 minutes ago
I was following the neogaf thread on ffxv, and you popped in and thanked the person who linked to the reddit thread that had the translations.
Anyways, would you mind private messaging the member 'Verendus' ? He gave some details in that thread and he's apparently an insider. Would you mind asking him when the game is planning on releasing - at least what he's been hearing?
I would, but I don't have an account.
[–]to alphadog3939 sent 15 minutes ago
Verendus has been asked that question before and he doesn't know. He doesn't have any guesses either.
[–]from alphadog3939 sent 2 minutes ago
was he asked that recently though? if so, do you have a link?
That's not what I heard. He said that it will be less like KH combat but still very much an action game
He said it was no longer as KH-esque as it once was, apparently, but it is very much still an action game.
Tabata said:
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The Sasuke ._.
Yeah, I mean I'm not going to panic and declare everything's ruined. I'm sure the current system (if it's as we expected) will work well and feel natural after a couple of hours but it's never hurt to have more option and I don't think allowing button mashing should be that hard of a request considering the nature of the combat system.
Some time I just get the urge to shut my brain off and just mashing things to death in a game that's not Dysnasty Warriors
I'm exactly the same. I basically forced my way through Kingdom Hearts. I probably only changed my style for the boss fights where I kept being killed. Mostly it was keep bashing attack, then spam magic, then attack.Yeah, I mean I'm not going to panic and declare everything's ruined. I'm sure the current system (if it's as we expected) will work well and feel nature after a couple of hours but it's never hurt to have more option and I don't think allowing button mashing should be that hard of a request considering the nature of the combat system.
Some time I just get the urge to shut my brain off and just mashing things to death in a game that's not Dysnasty Warriors
The more I think about it, the option would be pretty great. Chain on or off. If the rest of the mechanics are the same, this would be the simple fix. You satisfy everyone. Animations can remain the same. It's just the control aspect of that one thing. Plus, lots of people grind in RPGs. Having that option would be brilliant for that. Easier to grind with Chain on. But you can play the rest of the game without it if you want. At the same time, those who want to take it easier, and not get too complex, can still keep it turned on.
If this is doable, it'd be brilliant.
That's exactly what I want.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, they remove presses completely and you're left with holding attack and using L1 occasionally. Or they remove switch too, and you just hold attack, and switching is done for you.
But I don't think they're that insane.
Hey Verendus, do you know if the resolution/framerate issues in this build are due to it being early or just running a devkit in the dev mode? I know dev mode kills performance in some cases and just want to get a feel for where they are in the engine development, goals, and progress.
I can see it now: 'The auto-combat button is made so the game will be more accessible to the casual market. Please be exited.'
I'd love to believe that there some shred of sanity left at Square but after letting Toriyama roam free for 3 games straight, I don't know what to believe anymore.
NoctisVsStar
Member
This thread should be saved, if we have the same complaints by the time we get to play the demo it would be positive feedback for SE reps. The best scenario is like you said to give us the option and everyone is happy.
please, no.
pooptacular
Member
Any word on the type of lighting the game is outputting? The dynamic time of day stuff makes me think this is some sort of dynamic GI?
NoctisVsStar
Member
How about a control scheme for casuals and the hardcore ? everyone would be happy.
'Pffttt the hardcore will be giving us money anyways. We need to chase the casual like everyone else!'
I don't know unfortunately.
It's all about that one-button battle system.
great reference ;P
Square Enix awarded US patent for single-button action RPG battle system:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=804363
(dont enter picnic mode people haha)
Night_Knight
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NoctisVsStar
Member
Don't panic don't panic * French Montana voice
HeartlessNobody213
Member
Disappointed and lost a lot of hype the battle system isn't a evolution of KH and now it's something different. Still from looking at Verendus notes, the current system seems fine except for the lack of a jump button.
Yeah sure, I agree, but they can definitely do some interesting things with the new mechanic though that would make an option impossible. I hope that there's something new and different about this.
We haven't actually had good side characters in FF for a while..
I hope that means they are taking care of them now.
Supporting characters always add charm to the game and the story.
I guess we'll have to wait and see just how much control, if any, you have over the "combos."
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Deleted member 20920
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I want a good Cid. Cid Raines was baddd...I remember reading that they wasn't sure they wanted to name him Cid at first.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Because it was advertised as such, only after tabata took control it got dismissed ( so it seems )