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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
As far as we know from the leaked documents, all games will need to have some kind of Pro support going from October onward. What the Pro support is, is up to the developer.
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First downsampled 1080p screens from PS4 Pro (Titanfall 2)
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As far as we know from the leaked documents, all games will need to have some kind of Pro support going from October onward. What the Pro support is, is up to the developer.
Depends on the developer, but it's anticipated that games in development from this point forward will be enhanced for the Pro.
The_Hitcher89
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All of them going forward I think, but nobody knows yet how many boxes they have to check past being simply compatible.
I hope so.
Thanks for the answer. I'll keep an eye out as I'm not opposed to more reasons to pick one up eventually.
You don't have to hope. There is no actual value in devs using Pro as lead platform anytime soon, since PS4 and Pro as relatively close in power.
Unaha-Closp
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I must need glasses as I can't see any significant difference. Black and White to Colour. No Problem. SD to HD. Again No Problem. 720p to 1080p. I would like to say I can spot the difference 100% of the time but I would be lying. Downsampled 2K (or whatever it is) to 1080p. Yeah I can't see a difference.
Glasses it is then I guess. Or no glasses and I just keep playing my PS4 normal boring console just as I have been. Possibly in motion I could see a difference but I doubt it. My eyes just don't see it. Framerates though I can appreciate a nice high frame rate. All day every day.
Glasses it is then I guess. Or no glasses and I just keep playing my PS4 normal boring console just as I have been. Possibly in motion I could see a difference but I doubt it. My eyes just don't see it. Framerates though I can appreciate a nice high frame rate. All day every day.
Freeman76
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I was the same until i opened the page on the PS4 browser and views the images on the TV i will be playing on. Massive difference then
The PS4 version is significantly below 1080p in that shot. Pro is above 1080p.
Liabe Brave
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In motion, the difference will actually be more apparent. Jaggies in stills turn into shimmering in motion; downsampling will make moving images more solid and less flickery.
PS4 Pro definitely improves framerates, though by how much will vary from title to title. (I wouldn't expect too many to move from 30fps to 60fps, though.) As with resolution, how much the improvement matters to you is a personal thing. But it'll be there.
MatrixMan.EXE
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People on here actually said that? Fucking hell.
Daffy Duck
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Amazing.
Just made some more comparison pics. Don't have a 4K TV so these images are supersampled 1080p on the Pro.
Sorry for the bad ESO comparison as it is hard to get the time of day right - the weather and time of day are server-bound. I also changed the FoV several times, so that might be off as well.
Skyrim PS4 1:
Skyrim PS4 Pro 1:
Skyrim PS4 2:
Skyrim PS4 Pro 2:
The Elder Scrolls: Online PS4 1:
The Elder Scrolls: Online PS4 Pro 1:
The Elder Scrolls: Online PS4 2:
The Elder Scrolls: Online PS4 Pro 2:
Does that work for you guys?
Sorry for the bad ESO comparison as it is hard to get the time of day right - the weather and time of day are server-bound. I also changed the FoV several times, so that might be off as well.
Skyrim PS4 1:
Skyrim PS4 Pro 1:
Skyrim PS4 2:
Skyrim PS4 Pro 2:
The Elder Scrolls: Online PS4 1:
The Elder Scrolls: Online PS4 Pro 1:
The Elder Scrolls: Online PS4 2:
The Elder Scrolls: Online PS4 Pro 2:
Does that work for you guys?
MidgarBlowedUp
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What about downsample to 1080i, 720p, or can it do like my gtx1070 and let me scale on the GPU to force a fake 1080p to 2160p on my CRT?
Backfoggen
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Just like people said 1080p was not going to make a difference and are now saying that 4k won't make a difference.
CyberPunked
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Looks like a downscaled image. What were people expecting?
Backfoggen
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So you don't get 4k screenshots without a 4k TV hooked up?
SumptuousLemur
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Finally some real examples. However it's not really a noticeable difference.
adamsapple
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Yep. These are great.
Even at the same resolution, the bump in detail is clearly obvious, more so in some cases than others but definitely obvious.
Sharper textures, more resolved detail at distance, more detail in individual things like tree branches, longer draw distance for foliage and trees and denser foliage in the world.
You can choose between 4k and 1080p screenshots, but I downsized the 4k images because that's what I see on my 1080p monitor.
Yeah the difference in Skyrim is quite impressive. If you toggle between those screenshots you can see how much better the Pro version looks, as you've said: draw distance, foliage, textures etc. Stunning.
Backfoggen
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The thing about downsampling is also that it will be more noticeably in motion because it reduces shimmer.
Those look great.
ronaldthump
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Will make a lot of difference on a big screen 1080 tv
Karspankey
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Yeah, with the Skyrim remaster, the difference will be in the textures and foliage since the game already has practically no jaggies. It uses a good, yet blurry, TAA solution. I can imagine that the blur goes away completely on a 4K native screen since it does if you render higher than 1080p on the PC version.
Much sharper, better AF, better texture quality. Pretty noticable.
DrunkShogun
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Anyone got a quick answer because I've been told my thought is wrong. Are all games post October going to have some form of improvement via ps4 pro or is it just the option will be available.
Yeah those are great and, I think, more representative to what people should expect for the majority of games rather than the TF2 comparison.
But like I said earlier, the Pro is a god send for sub 1080p games (FF XV I'm looking at you), whether you have a 1080p or 4K display.
gameoverbro
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Wow those images look amazing, now I'm considering a Pro.
LabouredSubterfuge
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My main takeaway from this thread is that Elder Scrolls Online looks vomit-inducing irrespective of the resolution.
I don't see much of a difference here especially for a native 4K downsample compared to the native 1080p. Clearly less clarity than the press screens Bethesda released at the very least, which should not be the case, especially regarding the foliage being so blurred.
Are you sure Skyrim doesn't have a patch instead of being on disk?
Even for PC 4K downsampled shots of Skyrim Special Edition i've seen, they are much cleaner than the 1080p native PS4 shots
Kenzodielocke
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It's an MMO after all so it's only natural that it doesn't look that great. After all every game is utilizing the power of the Pro differently. ESO apparently has a sharper image now, better shadows and water reflections - I tried hard but I didn't notice any improved shadows and water reflections are absent from what I've seen so far... and I play a lot of ESO.
Backfoggen
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Made the Skyrim/Elder Scrolls Online pics into a Screenshot Comparison thing
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/189866
I think what we're seeing here is the "worst" case scenario. Old games with already plenty of performance overhead put into good image quality on standard PS4. Still a decent amount of clarity added with the Pro.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/189866
I think what we're seeing here is the "worst" case scenario. Old games with already plenty of performance overhead put into good image quality on standard PS4. Still a decent amount of clarity added with the Pro.
Something isn't right with that comparison, look at the side of the stairs on the lower right side, the black levels are all over the place
platina
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Can you post native 4k shots? The screens should have the same iq as these:
https://bethesda.net/en/article/2vD2Mjgezeu8O22KKGGcyI/mods-and-4k-coming-to-playstation-4-for-skyrim-and-fallout-4
Kenzodielocke
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Sorry, I never made gif comparisons. Just took both screenshots and recorded it while swapping.
Karspankey
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Ken, your first gif kept making me think something was wrong with my PC :V
Souldestroyer Reborn
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That's....a bigger difference than i expected.
Looks beautiful even on a 1080p screen.
Looks beautiful even on a 1080p screen.
Should I go to these locations as well? In the meantime someone could maybe suggest a site where I can upload proper 4K screens, as Abload doesn't accept them due to their size.
Stealthcobra
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Has skyrim remastered been patched?
platina
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Yes, thank you. The previous pro owner used google:
https://photos.google.com/
Here is the interesting part: The screens should be around 30mb at least for the forest one to match the one bethesda posted.
MisterXDTV
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I don't think it has been patched with Pro support... Am i wrong?
Karspankey
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I havent heard about a Pro patch yet, and i don't know if it was on the disk.
It would be funny if the current captures we have just gave a placebo effect of looking better. I think they look off for native 4K downsampled pics though.
MisterXDTV
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Stealthcobra
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I don't know I'm just trying to keep up with any current games i own so i can try hdr on the old ps4
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