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RDR coming to the PC is the western version of The Last Remnant (PS3) appearing in the "Most Wanted Games" chart in Famitsu.
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Former RDR lead MP designer says there was never any intention to bring RDR to PC
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If anything, it launches new conspiracy theories.
My guess is GTAV was also another massive technical challenge.
Doctor Ironic
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I'm more surprised that LA Noire got a PC port than GTAV.
This is a completely ridiculous assertion now that things like FF7 Remake, Duke Nukem Forever and The Last Guardian exist in this world.
Haha, I've said myself that I don't believe a PC version was planned initially, so this admission doesn't dampen my hopes in the slightest.
SentryDown
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Bit of context here :
Rockstar doesn't alaways release PC version (Midnight Club)
GTA 4 PC was a mess despite 6 additional monthes of dev (nobody knows about their sales)
In a Q&A they stated : "All we can say is that whenever it is viable (technically, developmentally and business-wise) for us to release a game for PC (or any other particular platform) we will and we usually do; unfortunately, that is just not the case 100% of the time for all platforms."
Please remember that PC version of GTA 5 was released 19 months after the PS3/360 version, it's safe to assume they did not planned it right from the start.
IMO Rockstar engine wasn't efficient at all regarding PC, they tried with GTA 4 but it was a lot of efforts for little return on investisment (+ hurt their image). They had to wait for the next-gen refactoring to do a PC port again (probably made sure their engine was supporting PC properly this time)
Rockstar doesn't alaways release PC version (Midnight Club)
GTA 4 PC was a mess despite 6 additional monthes of dev (nobody knows about their sales)
In a Q&A they stated : "All we can say is that whenever it is viable (technically, developmentally and business-wise) for us to release a game for PC (or any other particular platform) we will and we usually do; unfortunately, that is just not the case 100% of the time for all platforms."
Please remember that PC version of GTA 5 was released 19 months after the PS3/360 version, it's safe to assume they did not planned it right from the start.
IMO Rockstar engine wasn't efficient at all regarding PC, they tried with GTA 4 but it was a lot of efforts for little return on investisment (+ hurt their image). They had to wait for the next-gen refactoring to do a PC port again (probably made sure their engine was supporting PC properly this time)
People keep asking for it despite it being out for so long. I dunno if it technically can come to PC without requiring a complete remake of it. There's definitely an audience for it, considering how well the PC port of GTAV did. I'd love for it to come to PC, but I simply don't think it's happening, especially after so long.
It doesn't matter how long it took, there was no doubt about its release for PC.
The GTA PC releaes came always 6-12 months later than the console version tho.
People like the game and don't want it to be stuck rotting on old hardware for the rest of time?
What you hear about as a gamer probably differs greatly from internal conversations. There could have been a point at which a PC version was being questioned. How hard is that to believe? PC as a platform brings different challenges than consoles, and a name like GTA brings the consumers to you (I.e. system seller).
It came later than normal because Rockstar wanted the double whammy of PS360 sales AND PS4X1 sales before porting the game to PC. I don't believe for a second that the PC version wasn't planned from the start.
SentryDown
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If it wasn't such a hit they would have focused on Red Dead 3 instead, next gen & PC weren't their initial plan.
ISee
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My feeling too.
Gunslinger
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Feel bad for PC only players. They missed out the best game of last generation.
There was plenty of doubt when it was PS360 only.
I wonder if their decision was tied to the newly-discovered appetite for current-gen remasters.
xqemu looks promising, though I don't follow it as I don't even know why I should game-wise lol.
But yeah, best best would be Xenia. Atleast it can already boot the to the title screen of RDR
They wouldnt. They are different devs after all.
And its laughable to think that NG+PC version werent planned initially and only started development because of GTAV beeing a hit. Its a Rockstars Game. Its GTA. The success was to be expected and therefore everything that is involved in it.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
It's a damn shame that RDR isn't on PC. If they ported it now they'd still get an easy 2 million sold I reckon.
I'm sure they expected it to sell well, but not necessarily "best selling entertainment product of all time" well.
It's a moot point though, see Kazen's post two above mine.
SentryDown
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Success and GTA-5-level success are two different things man.
Rockstar isn't blind, yes they thought of other platforms from the start (well, maybe not from the start since next gen weren't even announced), that doesn't mean the decision was set in stone before release.
Yeah, I'd call that one of the biggest gaming "tragedies" of last gen. RDR is too good of a game to fade away in such an outdated form. Even if we had it as a backwards compatible title on X1, it still wouldn't do it justice.
That said, I really don't get his surprise over GTA V on the PC. As far as Rockstar's treatment of the PC platform goes, RDR is the outlier, not the norm. Despite the delays, all of their other major titles from last gen made it to the PC (GTA IV, LA Noire and Max Payne 3).
Visualante2
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Can't quite tell if it was just market research or just all hand on deck for Grand Theft Auto.
PartTimeWarrior
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You can buy a copy for ps3 or Xbox and play it right now on your ps3 or Xbox
Publishing is about risk assessment and investments. With consoles you usually only have to develop for one platform per console. With PCs you have to support tons of ever-changing configurations.
I just tried to play a game I developed myself 6 years ago on my PC and I can't because it has a ton of compatibility issues. Tried it out on a console devkit and it worked just like it did 6 years ago.
That's all there really is to it. If they think it's worth the money to make a good PC version, they'll put the money into it. If it's a big risk, or there's not enough money, then why bother? It's not so much porting as much as optimizing and supporting hardware configurations, since game development is usually done on PCs.
I just tried to play a game I developed myself 6 years ago on my PC and I can't because it has a ton of compatibility issues. Tried it out on a console devkit and it worked just like it did 6 years ago.
That's all there really is to it. If they think it's worth the money to make a good PC version, they'll put the money into it. If it's a big risk, or there's not enough money, then why bother? It's not so much porting as much as optimizing and supporting hardware configurations, since game development is usually done on PCs.
Finale Fireworker
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Then remake it.
This game is too important and valuable to die on 360. This game needs to be available and preserved indefinitely.
It's not just a transcendent game, it's an incredible western.
This game is too important and valuable to die on 360. This game needs to be available and preserved indefinitely.
It's not just a transcendent game, it's an incredible western.
funkystudent
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More then likely it was because Rockstar San Diego never did PC ports before and wasnt going to start for Red Dead.
Combined with the lukewarm launch of GTA4 PC and the PC scene in its pre Steam dominance era back then and I get why it didnt happen.
Which is a damn shame. RDR with the community support PC GTA games get would have been a sight to see.
thehillissilent
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Rockstar would be crazy not to have RDR 2 come to PC.
Activision know the PC crowd will be more vocal (but also more dedicated) and didn't want to bother. Probably extra money and resources to tackle hackers.
n051de
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Hope the XB1 Compatibility request will get R* to atleast allow it to run on the 1.