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Sports Formula 1 Season 2020 |OT| Drive to Survive 2 - who drinks champagne from a shoe?

Mohonky

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So.....

Sainz to Ferrari
Ricciardo to Mclaren

Interesting. I am a little surprised by Sainz to Ferrari, I just dont rate the guy quite that highly. With Ferraris pull they could have almost anyone, so I dunno, I would have thought Ricciardo is a better fit; he's been in a race winning car and has experience.

Anyway, a great move for Sainz.

Ricciardo joining Mclaren on the upward trajectory and with a move to Merc power soon I think he is in a good spot. Ferrari would have been better but I think this will be a good move for him.

Now...Renault?

Do we really dare to believe we might see Alonso in that car? Maybe they bring back the Hulk? This is probably going to be the biggest surprise line up.

Vettel to retire. Dont see him interested, he has 4 titles, his last ambition was to emulate Schumacher but that dream is dead; cant see him going to a team floundering around the mid field.
 
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Leclerc and Ricciardo are both known for being aggressive on track, I think Ferrari didn't want to risk having another season of their drivers taking each other out during races.
 

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Renault is gonna look so midfield just calling Hulk back. Alonso back at Renault would be a hilarious disaster.

The team is a mediocre works team with no engine customers. They paid Ricciardo crazy money when they weren’t at all ready to compete with the top teams.
 
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Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Renault left the sport at the nearest opportunity. They've now been left by both the last customer team and a fast driver they were trying to build their future with.
 

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Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Renault left the sport at the nearest opportunity. They've now been left by both the last customer team and a fast driver they were trying to build their future with.
If Renault left that would be terible for the sport

Another team gone

How many team left now? 9 ?

Not to mention Renault carried a strong legacy in Formula one if you still remember Williams Renault, Beneton Renault, Red Bull Renault and Mild Seven Renault...

Thats like..how many constructor championship title there? 15?

Viewership in France will drop significantly if they left

We need more car and driver running in the race not less
 
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hariseldon

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The budget cap may help, but the economy might lead big manufacturers like Renault or Honda to pull out in the next few years anyways.
Tbh that might not be a bad thing. Could lead to something like the DFV engine from back in the day which would allow teams to focus on the car importing engines are roughly equal.
 

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Tbh that might not be a bad thing. Could lead to something like the DFV engine from back in the day which would allow teams to focus on the car importing engines are roughly equal.
That would mean the end of manufacturer teams, Mercedes would rather leave than use an engine from Ferrari, Honda or Renault, and vice versa.
 

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That would mean the end of manufacturer teams, Mercedes would rather leave than use an engine from Ferrari, Honda or Renault, and vice versa.
Not necessarily. So back in the day most teams used the DFV engines, I'm sure you're aware of the history. Let's take the 1980 F1 season, just picking at random. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Formula_One_season#Drivers_and_constructors you see that most teams are running the DFV, but there are a few outliers - Ferrari, Renault and Alfa Romeo. It doesn't necessarily mean that you ban Merc, Ferrari, Honda and Renault from making engines, just that you have a good fallback standard that is reasonably cheap - maybe even run a different spec for that so it can be competitive with the hybrid engines (ie make those 'DFV' engines proper screaming V12s or something). Now of course the big manufacturers would lose customers, but perhaps that might prompt them to consider engines that are less costly to build - currently they're able to spread the enormous expense over their customer base (apart from Renault) but without that they'll have to cut back, and maybe, just maybe, we can start having some sensible conversations about engines in F1 because these hybrid engines, technical marvels as they are, do nothing for the racing.
 
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So the F1 season is being pushed further back, with the big 2021 rule changes being pushed all the way to 2022. But the new budget cap will be in place.

What do you do with a high tech industry that is used to dealing with constantly changing challenges and is put on hold for a few months?


They are just going to develop the 2020 cars into the ultimate aero based race cars of our time.
I wanted to see the ground effect cars in 2021 though.
 

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Stumbled over this on reddit:



Since we have a bit of time on our hand without races still, anyone willing to share what their "dream team" in F1 would be, respectively what team-combination would be nightmare fuel?

I guess Haas pit crew and Ferrari strategy would be hot contender for the nightmare-version of this...
 
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It would be great for entertainment purposes, but I don't see Hamilton agreeing to this and Toto wanting to break good "teamwork" between his drivers.
 
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Mercedes has dominated F1 since 2014 and will win the title this year and 2021 anyways. They’re likely looking at leaving in a few years because of the company shifting to electric, so why not go partner Vettel with Hamilton and set off firework and headlines.
 

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Been watching some streams from current and ex f1 driver s (and other disciplines) playing rfactor and other sims, actually fun to watch.
Yeah I’ve been on IRacing since about 2013 and the influx of people has been staggering, in part because of all the attention now coming to virtual racing. Guys like Max and Lando have been here for ages with Will Power, various NASCAR drivers, even old guys like Rubens Barricello also having fun. I’ve shared a track with many of them and it’s amazing, honestly the coolest thing ever (Max is ridiculous btw). I reckon e-motorsport might be here to stay.
 
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Yeah I’ve been on IRacing since about 2013 and the influx of people has been staggering, in part because of all the attention now coming to virtual racing. Guys like Max and Lando have been here for ages with Will Power, various NASCAR drivers, even old guys like Rubens Barricello also having fun. I’ve shared a track with many of them and it’s amazing, honestly the coolest thing ever (Max is ridiculous btw). I reckon e-motorsport might be here to stay.
Yeah, I wasn't too interested in watching virtual racing, but now I'm more open to it.
Like to watch the enthusiasm of the sim guys beating f1 drivers.
 

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Anyone going to watch the NASCAR race tonight? Not my usual but it's better than nothing.
Might give it a look. I started watching IndyCar a couple of years ago and found it infinitely better than f1 and I found oval racing fascinating. Any idea how to watch NASCAR in the uk?
 

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Meanwhile in Formula E, Audi driver Daniel Abt gets fired over cheating in eSports event:


Just what Audi needed, considering Dieselgate is still in people's memory and Audi DTM team had been previously told off for pushing competition off the track on command.

 
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I wonder if Abt getting fired will result in other professional drivers staying away from esports altogether. There's no gain and a huge risk of angering your team / sponsors, even in cases less "extreme" than this one.
 
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I think they can find people that want to do it. Guys like Leclerc and Lando do fine, Russell has been able to shine too. It was fun watching Alonso and Button fight for the lead at a virtual Indy oval race.

Some guys just didn’t take it seriously despite sponsor participation and other drivers giving up their time.
 
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