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[SniperHunter]

thanks to ypo for pointing this out

E3

Now

If you watch this IGN video, you will notice very high quality motion blur on the sides. It looks beautiful!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NySJyi2pw

Gameplay from PAX has no motion blur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBM8-clQptc

Hope this an early build. That motion blur in the e3 video looks epic!

 

[EightBitNate]

Went from Forza to Fartza

 

[notoriousKTR]

Youtube never been ideal to make comparisons. You don't know how many hands the video has been processed through before it hits Youtube.

 

[hwy_61]

I'll reserve judgement until I see the final product.

 

[Magwik]

Maybe you have to download the better graphics day one as well.

 

[R3TRODYCE]

I'll reserve judgement until I see the final product.

Yeah, plus comparing footage from a stream seems just wow.

 

[Mushroomer25]

Wow, an E3 trailer was proved to be deceiving. This has never happened before.

 

[vio]

Looks like Forza 4

Spoiler

Full

HD.

 

[abadguy]

So we make judgements on graphics based on shit quality Youtube vids now?

 

[Guymelef]

Cloud on / Cloud off.

 

[dragonelite]

I can hardly see any details in those two screens.
And wtf using youtube seriously?

 

[Insane Metal]

Come on, it's not even the same course.

 

[androvsky]

Youtube never been ideal to make comparisons. You don't know how many hands the video has been processed through before it hits Youtube.

Generally that's very true, but it seems unlikely that YouTube compression would make something less blurry.

 

[Metfanant]

Wouldn't be a complete shock to find out that at E3 Forza was running on one of those famous "Xbone spec'd PC's" and that retail hardware isn't quite at that level...

Regardless Turn 10 always delivers and Forza 5 will be a killer game for the Xbone...it will be the best launch title...

 

[Metalmurphy]

The game never had motion blur during gameplay. IGN footage was replay mode.

Looks identical otherwise.


You should all pressure Turn10 to release some 1080p direct feed mp4 footage.

 

[la flama blanca]

The environment in the latest video looks really iffy. Cars look good still though. When we get true comparisons between this and Drive Club, it's going to be suhweeet.

 

[Felix Lighter]

The E3 shot is more flattering for sure but I don't know how much you can scrutinize Youtube screenshots. Are they even being viewed in their highest quality?

 

[Community Forum]

We already knew Forza 5 is shipping incomplete.

 

[Iced_Eagle]

As people have said repeatedly the twitch video is compressed and scaled which is why its aliased and slightly blurry. Then that twitch stream being recorded and put on YouTube further compresses it.

hopefully they release direct feed for everyone soon. I saw it at PAX yesterday and it looked way better than what this video showed...

 

[Korezo]

Wow, an E3 trailer was proved to be deceiving. This has never happened before.

This, why people keep expecting games to look like the e3 versions.

 

[derFeef]

They removed all the buildings and trees, what a downgrade!

 

[Skeff]

I don't really follow Forza much as I'm getting a PS4 and I don't really like Racing games, But could this just be a difference of well covered up replay mode vs. actual gameplay?

 

[ekim]

E3

Now

If you watch this IGN video, you will notice very high quality motion blur on the sides. It looks beautiful!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NySJyi2pw

Gameplay from PAX has no motion blur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBM8-clQptc

Hope this an early build. That motion blur in the e3 video looks epic!

The pax gameplay is a rip from an non-HD twitch stream upscaled to 720p.
Btw: the E3 build was playable at gamescom as well and on E3 (on the Xbox One console) - it looks the same like the first video.

 

[BeastLeeAdams]

It's Twitch.

 

[babyghost853]

So we make judgements on graphics based on shit quality Youtube vids now?

We always have, see every trailer vs gameplay thread ever. Also see every driveclub thread.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

They removed all the buildings and trees, what a downgrade!

haha!

 

[commedieu]

They removed all the buildings and trees, what a downgrade!

But according to sim gaf, tree fidelity makes or breaks immersion? ???

Gaf.. ???

 

[NullPointer]

Its a GPS side-grade if anything.

And yeah, I don't think this footage is very representative of anything besides how the internet's series of tubes can give videos stretchmarks as they force their way through em.

 

[RoKKeR]

Nothing better than comparing two horribly compressed YouTube screencaps of varying quality to determine whether or not there was a graphical downgrade in a game.

I'm really not worried about Forza 5's graphics. It's locked 60fps, smooth as butter, and has the fantastic Forza gameplay.

 

[SniperHunter]

The game never had motion blur during gameplay. IGN footage was replay mode.

Looks identical otherwise.

oh dang that sucks! I love that motion blur! Some of the best I have seen.

shut this thread down sorry

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

The game never had motion blur during gameplay. IGN footage was replay mode.

Looks identical otherwise.


You should all pressure Turn10 to release some 1080p direct feed mp4 footage.

yep. No motion blur in this gameplay video of Prague.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu_1rysu5_Q

 

[Hoo-doo]

Compression doesn't miraculously remove the motion blur effect from games.

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

In before the lock?

 

[Phire Phox]

I'll reserve judgement until I see the final product.

. besides a crappy stream capture is no way to judge a games graphics.

 

[Afrikan]

Its off screen footage.
Different track.
Different lighting situation.

Wait to use a more accurate comparison.

This is wasn't cool in the DriveClub thread and it's not cool here.

 

[vio]

DigitalFoundry should get on this right now. They don`t have problem with using Youtube videos now and then.

 

[Guymelef]

It's not Youtube quality fault, the key is this.

Metalmurphy:
The game never had motion blur during gameplay. IGN footage was replay mode.

E3 build without motion blur.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs-iHpom6UQ

 

[abadguy]

We always have, see every trailer vs gameplay thread ever. Also see every driveclub thread.

Well that's just silly. Youtube vids have awful quality.

 

[FyreWulff]

So we make judgements on graphics based on shit quality Youtube vids now?

Doesn't stop Digital Foundry from doing it

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Doesn't stop Digital Foundry from doing it

Digital Foundry played it.

Compression doesn't miraculously remove the motion blur effect from games.

How about you watch the video again (if you did at all).

Hey, I can take a selective screenshot as well!

Try harder...

 

[Elginer]

This seems to be happening more and more with Xbone games. Didn't some insider here say this was going to be the case with the bone?

 

[SniperHunter]

yep. No motion blur in this gameplay video of Prague.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu_1rysu5_Q

ahh well game still looks great without it

 

[Visualante2]

What part of running on dev hardware don't you understand. Just joking around, can we not get a better source on either than YouTube?

 

[bigol]

Its off screen footage.
Different track.
Different lighting situation.

Wait to use a more accurate comparison.

This is wasn't cool in the DriveClub thread and it's not cool here.

Not offscreen, they are both direct feed

but yeah

different track
different lighting situation and it's from Youtube.

Really wait for final game

 

[orioto]

All those nice lens flares. 3DFX will change everything!

 

[flamingotripod]

Comparison using 2 different tracks on a youtube stream?

Forza 5 bomba

 

[ElTorro]

Worth noticing because some people indeed think that the track's blandness is due to bad performance: the track is a recreation of Laguna Seca, a real-world race track. It looks "bland" because it is bland in the real world. There is just nothing else there.

 

[jet1911]

Replay(motion blur!) vs gameplay(no motion blur!). Nothing new.

 

[Zatoichi's Cane]

Dat Titan card be gone yo.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

The game never had motion blur during gameplay. IGN footage was replay mode.

Explain this: