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[PnCIa]

meh.
Seriously those pics are not impressive in any way, XBox 1.5 arguments are justified with this one.

 

[Gek54]

Seriously, man, you didn't even notice the middle shot has no blur . . .

That's at 720p, 60fps, and hell, it may still not be content-complete, graphics-wise.

I did notice, I would be happy if that shot represents the final look of gameplay, no blur and all. I love that offset hood with the detailed (60fps) reflections. Blur is really the only graphical qualm I would make an issue. Now get that DFP/G25 working and we are gold.

 

[PG2G]

I could probably make excuses for this game if it was 2005, but it isn;t. I'll buy it, but this is pretty damn disappointing.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

You know, actually he really doesn't. 60fps in 1080p with 20+ cars is still quite, quite comparable. Even if the assets are of lesser quality(the cars not that much actually) it is still quite a reasonable comparison. And PD made that shit in 3 weeks.

Legitimate Question:

Is it easier or harder to make a good looking model that can take damage? Like, can PD pump up a static model because it's less complex than a model that has to take active damage at (what was it?) 120fps?

 

[Angelcurio]

What on the sweet planet Earth in these screenshots tells you that they aren't doing the same thing again? An extended online experience? Live Anywhere integration? Weekly Tournaments? That's raising the bar. Comparing tire textures? That's not raising any kind of bar. You will be driving down a track at 200 mph. How the tires REACT to that road (360fps, last I heard) that's raising a bar. You are seriously focusing on the wrong things.

You only focus in the online part of the game. Do you honestly think that a game is only good based on its online portion? better not tell something like that to gran turismo fans whose 100% racing experience has been in the offline mode.

Also , this game is supposed to be a graphical showcase of the 360. The game is suppossed to look leaps and bounds better than GT4, but right now is "game am failed".

And about developer promises, could you tell me where the Global Illumination? what About HDR? and judging from first sight looks, it doesnt seem to have AF either, even though i am not quite sure about it.

 

[Wollan]

Of course it takes more resources having damage but if you're asking me if it's a harder job for the artist I would say it's only a matter of needing more time to do all the damage modeling.

 

[Pachinko]

Car models looks pretty slick but the backgrounds are drab, the question is do we need volumetric grass at 60fps with motion blur or not ? Those roadside textures ARE bland, there's no way around that .. bland enough to perhaps be placeholders.. I suppose only time will tell.

I must add that although I enjoy most racing games the forza/gran tourismo mold is one that I do not much care for.

 

[PG2G]

I'd imagine that it takes a good deal more resources to model cars that will show damage.

 

[DopeyFish]

HDR and 3d grass was activated after these shots were taken

 

[PG2G]

HDR and 3d grass was activated after these shots were taken

did they do anything to the dirt? heh

 

[DopeyFish]

did they do anything to the dirt? heh

well in the august 19th update they stated that those 2 were 'many' of the new-fangled effects that were activated

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

You only focus in the online part of the game.

How the tires REACT to that road (360fps, last I heard) that's raising a bar.

Would that this were true, my friend.

Also , this game is supposed to be a graphical showcase of the 360. The game is suppossed to look leaps and bounds better than GT4, but right now is "game am failed".

That's clearly your opinion. I really wouldn't cast a judgement on a racing game's relative success or faliure as a graphical showcase by screenshots. But that's only because games are played in motion and not on flash cards.

At least at my house.

Of course it takes more resources having damage but if you're asking me if it's a harder job for the artist I would say it's only a matter of needing more time to do all the damage modeling.

I was asking you about the first part. I don't think it has anything to do with any kind of texture artist. This isn't illustration, it's manipulating photographic data.

 

[RaijinFY]

HDR and 3d grass was activated after these shots were taken

Good!

Cant wait to see the new screens!

 

[PG2G]

well in the august 19th update they stated that those 2 were 'many' of the new-fangled effects that were activated

So hopefully these were the shots that were sent out for print (over a month ago) and we'll get some newer stuff tomorrow.

 

[Angelcurio]

HDR and 3d grass was activated after these shots were taken

Now if this is true, then i will give them the benefit of the doubt and wait until the next batch of screens (and maybe videos) are released, since i suppose that the next showing of the game will have those things enabled.

 

[puebla]

HDR and 3d grass was activated after these shots were taken

i hope so because this screenshot in particular is awful:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/tomchoucrew/forza19.jpg

if what you say is true than the game could look stunning running at 60 fps.

 

[X26]

good looking racer at 60fps > great looking racer at 30fps

although I hope in the end this (and GT5) can do both (look amazing and run at 60fps)

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

if what you say is true than the game could look stunning running at 60 fps.

Apparently that ship has sailed. Game am failed.

(That rhymes! I'll definitely be using that in my next rap battle.
A chance to succeed?
That ship has sailed.
Your style is like Forza 2
Your rap am failed.)

 

[My Arms Your Hearse]

Was anyone stupid enough to actually expect Forza to compare graphically to GT5??

GT4 (arguably, I suppose) looks better than Forza. GT4 is on freaking PS2! GT is always a premiere title graphically.

 

[ThirdEye]

I see no HDR in these pics. Just too cloudy or what?

 

[puebla]

Was anyone stupid enough to actually expect Forza to compare graphically to GT5??

GT4 (arguably, I suppose) looks better than Forza. GT4 is on freaking PS2! GT is always a premiere title graphically.

your whole post is stupid. gtfoh

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

something still doesn't seem right with these shots. The backgrounds just are so far lower quality than the car model, i gotta believe this isn't how it'll really be.

Weren't official screenshots supposed to arrive tomorrow? or are these those shots?

 

[Pimpwerx]

I see compliments for the car models, but that's the off-putting thing about these shots to me. Trackside details are a non-issue IMO. The visuals will improve in that area for sure, so people whining are jumping the gun completely. The problem is the cars still look off. It's the modelling itself. There's something to be said for taking lots of shots of the came car from small increments in angles. The cars have to look real from all angles, and some stuff just looks off. The fender flares on that BMW look too large, for instance. The lighting will improve and give the cars a more solid look as well. They look paper-thin right now, if you know what I mean.

There's lots that will improve, and I don't see a reason to worry. But I don't see the improvements on the art side that I was expecting. It must be really, really hard to model a car right. PEACE.

 

[Zombie James]

That's at 720p, 60fps, and hell, it may still not be content-complete, graphics-wise.

Let's hope so, textures look awful.

 

[Last Hope]

Seriously, man, you didn't even notice the middle shot has no blur . . .

That's at 720p, 60fps, and hell, it may still not be content-complete, graphics-wise.

Well it isn't the best looking game but more than acceptable if it does run at 60fps.

God damn I hate blur.

 

[Wollan]

Weren't official screenshots supposed to arrive tomorrow? or are these those shots?

I guess these screens had a purpose(if the new ones have grass, lighting..etc) as they clearly separate the wheat from.. whatever the term is. I can't believe people are saying it looks great in it's current state shown here.

 

[Insane Metal]

Forza Motorsport 2 Screenshots ? Fake ?

Change to

Forza Motorsport HD Screenshots Confirmed

:lol

 

[puebla]

something still doesn't seem right with these shots. The backgrounds just are so far lower quality than the car model, i gotta believe this isn't how it'll really be.

i'm with you. if that's how the textures will really look than wow just wow, i'd be shocked.

Weren't official screenshots supposed to arrive tomorrow?

yes

or are these those shots?

i'd like to know also.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

I guess these screens had a purpose(if the new ones have grass, lighting..etc) as they clearly separate the wheat from.. whatever the term is. I can't believe people are saying it looks great in it's current state shown here.

Yea, i was expecting a lot better, considering Forza 1 looked so good. Maybe it should be called Forza HD until they decide to improve it. I'll be shocked if this game doesn't get delayed

All i know is if this was shown as a PS3 game, the entire community (on both sides) would blow up and not be pleased (low textures, not even close to cg teaser E3 trailer, etc), but suddenly people are willing to be patient.

 

[Spider_Jerusalem]

I guess these screens had a purpose(if the new ones have grass, lighting..etc) as they clearly separate the wheat from.. whatever the term is

I really, really hope it. I was expecting to see something photorealistic, with great lighting and all, and what we get is Forza HD. Except for framerate, imho (and it's a strong imho, I know) TDU looks better than this.

 

[Klocker]

Y... but suddenly people are willing to be patient.

yea tuesday... damn... can I hold out another 24 hours?

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

yea tuesday... damn... can I hold out another 24 hours?

well now they've taken down the pics. It seems that they jumped the gun and these ARE the official pics.

 

[Gek54]

As for the offset camera on that hood view shot. Do they sell an Infinity G35 with right hand steering?

 

[Klocker]

well now they've taken down the pics. So it seems that they jumped the gun and these ARE the official pics.

Spoiler

if these are the pics tomororrow I will happily eat crow.

 

[Skilotonn]

These shots aren't the shots we were promised - today isn't Tuesday folks...

 

[DopeyFish]

well now they've taken down the pics (the non thumbnail ones). So it seems that they jumped the gun and these ARE the official pics.

but they are for a MAGAZINE

do you not understand? These are supposed to be exclusive to the MAGAZINE

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

Spoiler

if these are the pics tomororrow I will happily eat crow.

Well their site said this:

"Update : Looks like someone was a bit too eager to put these screens online, as they weren't supposed to be released until tomorrow. If you missed them, you'll have to wait a few more hours "

So we'll see

 

[GhaleonEB]

Well their site said this:

"Update : Looks like someone was a bit too eager to put these screens online, as they weren't supposed to be released until tomorrow. If you missed them, you'll have to wait a few more hours "

So we'll see

I can also say that there will be exclusive screenshots next Tuesday you won't see in any print mags (meaning we're grabbing them from the latest build and not trying to make a magazine's long lead deadlines from a month ago).

I take that to mean, different.

 

[Faizal]

Pics look very dull. They're missing something....

Gran Turismo pics always had the ability to set your heart pumping whenever you first see them. These pics completely fail to do that.

 

[sinseers]

Not really impressed by those screens, but well its a racing game have to see it in motion first, PGR3 screens were hot tho.

Those shots do look nice, but for some reason I really like the camera work and subtleness of the GT car models. DP has come a long way and I personally can't stand the gameplay of it. But I recognize hard work being put in when I see it. Can we get some GT shots for comparison just for yits and giggles? Please?

 

[mckmas8808]

I take that to mean, different.

Different as in just different cars at the same quality?

 

[travisbickle]

If those are the official shots, they need to get the lighting sorted out. Am I the only person that really liked the lighting in F1 PS3? it made the game look more of a jump up from this gen.

 

[HokieJoe]

I can also say that there will be exclusive screenshots next Tuesday you won't see in any print mags (meaning we're grabbing them from the latest build and not trying to make a magazine's long lead deadlines from a month ago).

I take that to mean, different.

Hmmm, I smell some pwnage coming.

Carefully tuned, tire-smoking, 500BHP pwnage exiting Turn 10 and ready to rumble down the front stretch.

 

[hadareud]

If those are the official shots, they need to get the lighting sorted out. Am I the only person that really liked the lighting in F1 PS3? it made the game look more of a jump up from this gen.

I think you are

that's not to say that I like the lighting in these shots, but the f1 game looks like utter shit.

 

[HokieJoe]

well he is the Xbox Viral Marketing Manager* so...


*I meant community manager

Cheap shot much?

*rollseyes*

At least he gets paid for his viral marketing. What's your excuse?

I mean seriously, During the time I've been here, Che has been a good contributor to this board. So were do you get off calling him a viral marketer? He never made a secret of who he works for.

 

[Speevy]

Well, GTR2 is also coming to the 360 next year.

 

[Gek54]

Well, GTR2 is also coming to the 360 next year.

LOL, yup. And the version developed by 10tacle is comming out on PC this month.

 

[RaijinFY]

Seriously, take this shot, add HDR on top of the FULL RES 720p 60fps (PGR, I'm lookin' at you) and you will have a thing of pure beauty, naysayers be damned.

I agree, HDR makes things a lot better.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Seriously, take this shot, add HDR on top of the FULL RES 720p 60fps (PGR, I'm lookin' at you) and you will have a thing of pure beauty, naysayers be damned.

Man, you know someone's going to do it. I would if I could. This calls for some serious Photoshop magic, as much as I agree with you.

 

[op_ivy]

the pics are down for me, does anyone have anyother link or can anyone rehost? please