BravoSuperStar
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sinnergy said:
That ain't an opinion, it's hard fact. Shift takes forever to load, even installed to the HDD. I barely noticed the loading in the Forza demo I'm so used to it in Shift.
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Forza Motorsport 3 Demo Discussion Thread
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That ain't an opinion, it's hard fact. Shift takes forever to load, even installed to the HDD. I barely noticed the loading in the Forza demo I'm so used to it in Shift.
Meus Renaissance
Member
Coming from a Forza virgin, I absolutely love the GUI on this game. I've always thought the menus were fuckly on racing games, especially on Gran Turismo. The clean white on this is beautiful.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Is it just me, or is this much easier than Forza 2? Even with all assists off (excl. ABS), it still seems easier than Forza 2 with assists on. Bizarro-world.
Diablohead
Member
Cockpit is 60fps in this demo, wtf are you guys smoking :lol
Not sure if this has been posted yet, since there are like 3 different threads involving Forza. Anyways, in replay mode, once you select a camera, like helicopter view, you can hit "X" and get many more camera angles within that selection.
Anyways, amazing game. Controls are just sick. I don't think there's a game on the market that controls as well as this game. Sounds are so much better than Forza 2's. Wish I had a better sound system.
I don't know what's up with screenshots we've been seeing. They don't do the game any justice. In motion, without a hitch, it's beautiful. My only gripe about graphics is that one camera angle during replay. I think we've all seen it. Pixalated plants in the foreground, and horrible blurry trees in the background. I'm not sure why Turn 10 would position the camera like this.
menus are so sleek and simple.
Day one for sure.
Anyways, amazing game. Controls are just sick. I don't think there's a game on the market that controls as well as this game. Sounds are so much better than Forza 2's. Wish I had a better sound system.
I don't know what's up with screenshots we've been seeing. They don't do the game any justice. In motion, without a hitch, it's beautiful. My only gripe about graphics is that one camera angle during replay. I think we've all seen it. Pixalated plants in the foreground, and horrible blurry trees in the background. I'm not sure why Turn 10 would position the camera like this.
menus are so sleek and simple.
Day one for sure.
StriKeVillain
Banned
Seriously, everyone needs to view the leaderboards before you start the race. Then click A to begin the race. Unlimited lap Time Trial. I got my time down to 1:03.602 with the help of my ghost. So fucking awesome.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
You can select someone on the leaderboard and race their ghost as well. Still will be unlimited laps.striKeVillain! said:
StriKeVillain
Banned
:OXiaNaphryz said:
I'm having a blast over here.
Windom Earle
Member
MidnightRider said:
Have you ever pushed a 500hp car to the limit yourself?
But let's not discuss Shift here, sorry.
About the jaggies, I think people were expecting the IQ from the press screenshots (bullshots).
Project Midway
Member
I'm in top 1% with Ferrari Well...only at the 857th place...but in top 1%!!!
So much fun
Well...only at the 857th place...but in top 1%!!! So much fun
pedrothelion
Member
Love the demo. Visually it looks amazing and is head and shoulders better looking then F2. As far the aliasing is concerned I think some of guys may need to get on the AV forum and find some decent settings for your HDTV. I didn't even think to look for aliasing and as far as I'm concerned If I don't think to look for it then it's not a problem.
One thing that does concerns me a bit is that the car seems to stick to the road a bit more. It could be that I'm just used to the driving model in Forza, but I can't think of time when I've been able to drive a car on a track for the first time with out the suggested line and not crash multiple times.
One thing that does concerns me a bit is that the car seems to stick to the road a bit more. It could be that I'm just used to the driving model in Forza, but I can't think of time when I've been able to drive a car on a track for the first time with out the suggested line and not crash multiple times.
bloodforge
Member
I'm getting top 3% with most of the cars, everything off except ABS, I think that's pretty good.
If I had a wheel I could probably get higher than that.
If I had a wheel I could probably get higher than that.
bigGIRLSblouse
Member
Do 48 hour cards work for demos? I have one that I am willing to part with if someone is missing out on this demo. PM me.
Diablohead
Member
I'm slowly working to get each class on the leaderboard to >100, so far so good but those #1 ghosts are quite fast to keep up with!
bloodforge
Member
bigGIRLSblouse said:
No, they just let you play online.
I was so excited to talk about the graphics, I forgot to mention...
THE SOUND, man the sound is much improved. I'm guessing all the extra microphones for recording worked.
- I turned down In-Race Music to 0 and cranked Car Sound all the way up and left all other sliders alone. It is just beautiful to hear all the sounds.
THE FEEL of Forza 3 is vastly different from Forza 2, but it's very welcome. I can't wait for the full version, but at least I have something to try out until then.
I tried some Wrong Way crashes and I gotta say, despite the lack of "Burnout" crashes, the audio of said crashes is pretty sickening, and with rollover, etc, it's quite awesome.
THE SOUND, man the sound is much improved. I'm guessing all the extra microphones for recording worked.
- I turned down In-Race Music to 0 and cranked Car Sound all the way up and left all other sliders alone. It is just beautiful to hear all the sounds.
THE FEEL of Forza 3 is vastly different from Forza 2, but it's very welcome. I can't wait for the full version, but at least I have something to try out until then.
I tried some Wrong Way crashes and I gotta say, despite the lack of "Burnout" crashes, the audio of said crashes is pretty sickening, and with rollover, etc, it's quite awesome.
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
Im bad at racing games, Owned Forza 2 and Forza 3 is def easier. Not a big fan of them because im sooo bad at driving. my races consist of me not actually driving but sabotaging the other racers :lol
AZ Greg
Member
Impressions:
+ Graphics are much improved over Forza 2
+ UI is great
- Graphics, as have long been criticized, are a little too "cartoony." I understand that the gameplay is where the focus should be for a sim, but I think photo realism is a necessary part of the package. Just as it is for tactile shooters that are trying to be realistic like some of the Tom Clancy titles.
- Jaggies. Not as bad as Forza 2 but they are there, particularly when using a color scheme other than white or silver.
- Load times are pretty horrible. And I'm using a 120GB HDD.
- Not to give credibility to the silly Top Gear "Magic Carpet Ride" stuff, but there, at least to me, feels to be some sort of disconnect between the car and the road. I tried almost all the cars and with various settings. This is something that even Forza 1 does much better (Was just playing it a couple of days ago).
- Cars really seem to lose the weight that they do have when you roll them. It's nice that they added this, but I really think they should have polished it and added it to the next iteration. As it is now, it hurts immersion when it does happen.
- Cockpit view doesn't seem to reflect windshield damage. Or maybe it was just with my specific situation. I was testing the damage in third person and after wrecking my car really hard and looking at the damage I noticed the windshield was messed up. I switched to cockpit and the window seemed to be fine.
Still need to put a lot more time in, but much like I was after the Forza 2 demo, I can't help but be disappointed.
+ Graphics are much improved over Forza 2
+ UI is great
- Graphics, as have long been criticized, are a little too "cartoony." I understand that the gameplay is where the focus should be for a sim, but I think photo realism is a necessary part of the package. Just as it is for tactile shooters that are trying to be realistic like some of the Tom Clancy titles.
- Jaggies. Not as bad as Forza 2 but they are there, particularly when using a color scheme other than white or silver.
- Load times are pretty horrible. And I'm using a 120GB HDD.
- Not to give credibility to the silly Top Gear "Magic Carpet Ride" stuff, but there, at least to me, feels to be some sort of disconnect between the car and the road. I tried almost all the cars and with various settings. This is something that even Forza 1 does much better (Was just playing it a couple of days ago).
- Cars really seem to lose the weight that they do have when you roll them. It's nice that they added this, but I really think they should have polished it and added it to the next iteration. As it is now, it hurts immersion when it does happen.
- Cockpit view doesn't seem to reflect windshield damage. Or maybe it was just with my specific situation. I was testing the damage in third person and after wrecking my car really hard and looking at the damage I noticed the windshield was messed up. I switched to cockpit and the window seemed to be fine.
Still need to put a lot more time in, but much like I was after the Forza 2 demo, I can't help but be disappointed.
SeaOfMadness
Member
h3ro said:
sorry to hear that, man. good luck
Big Takeover
Member
That's perfect. Nice one.Psychotext said:
Ok, let me comment on your video, and then mention something very important that I figured out watching some FM2 vids, and ultimately where I am mistaken.
The phenomenon I was talking about you can kind of see later in your video, although you never go fully through with it. 1:06 and 1:21. If you're on a very slight roll, going dead straight with little or no steering input, and give it full throttle, the car won't lose traction at all. Steering input will make the tires spin wildly, but they won't without that input. The reality is that is probably just the game's launch/start sequence though. No big deal (see below).
I found something by watching some FM2 videos on youtube. Everything looks very similar, if not exactly the same as I described it before as it does in FM2.
The difference is there's so much more lateral grip in FM3 that it feels like you're doing much less with the throttle to keep it on line. FM2 had you on egg shells with the throttle the whole time because there never was any grip. I wrongly thought because that feeling wasn't there that somehow they'd dumbed the physics way down, and I went looking for where they had done to do so.
Turns out it's the same. Any weird switching between lateral and longitudinal grip has always been there, but just harder to spot because FM2's cars slide around a lot more.
So yeah, my bad all the way around.
I guess my revised feeling is that FM3 could use with less grip to let player's throttle control shine a little brighter. I still don't feel any different than before. I just feel it for different reasons.
Fuck it though, I really need to play for more than 45 minutes to really get a good feeling for it. Now that's it's been a few hours I can hardly remember what it was like. :lol
Good to see the leaderboards are up as well.
Spaceman Spiff
Member
BCD2 said:
I won't be able to play the demo for another day or two, so I'm really looking forward to hearing your updated impressions. Hopefully, something is amiss since I'd been reading impressions like these from the AFX Challenge:
o0 Conman 0o said:
There's more in this thread:
Granted, these impressions are a few months old now, but I hope they haven't toned things down in a concession to accessibility. I suspect that's not the case, and that hopefully, like you said, you merely missed something in the TCS. Perhaps using a wheel as opposed to a controller has some impact as well.
Shogun PaiN said:Just figured out how to look around the car in cockpit mode
Looks really nice.
Yeah, good for you - I would not know that BECAUSE I'M USING THE OFFICIAL MICROSOFT FORCE FEEDBACK WHEEL.
Speaking of which, I CAN'T EVEN SEE MY MIRRORS AT ALL.
Che, can anybody take that into consideration?
Will the buttons be mappable?
Like, please?
Captain Pants
Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
Pizza Luigi said:
That pic is awesome. Maybe Che can answer, but is this track based off of City of Rocks National Park in Idaho? I went camping there this summer and can't help but see the similarities.
Maybe there are a lot of places that look like that, and I just haven't seen them. I can't wait to get home and play this demo.
frontieruk
Member
JRW said:
not seen that here
StriKeVillain
Banned
Xbox about to croak?JRW said:
weedlewalker
Member
For sure...
I could NEVER take a rear wheel drive car around the corner in Forza 2 and accelerate hard while I was mid turn. I had to brake in a line, make my turn and accelerate out.
What gives?
I could NEVER take a rear wheel drive car around the corner in Forza 2 and accelerate hard while I was mid turn. I had to brake in a line, make my turn and accelerate out.
What gives?
cjelly said: