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Found some annual old NPD hardware sales (1994-2001)

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Square2005

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Derived from info from this pdf I found: http://www.netinst.org/Clements_Ohashi.pdf
You can tell the annual NPD console sales between 1994 and 2001:

Code: 
	    [U]         1994	 Market %	1995	 Market %	1996	 Market %[/U]
NES	268,375	 4.75%	103,725	 2.25%	46,794	 0.66%
GEN	3,269,655	 57.87%	1,967,548	 42.68%	1,315,904	 18.56%
SNES	2,058,295	 36.43%	1,738,431	 37.71%	1,125,892	 15.88%
SAT			227,273	 4.93%	743,741	 10.49%
PSX			514,015	 11.15%	2,044,047	 28.83%
N64					1,771,791	 24.99%
DC						
PS2						
Total	5.65m		4.61m		7.09m	

	[U]1997	 Market %	1998	 Market %	1999	 Market %[/U]
NES	8,120	 0.07%	+/- none	 0.001%	none	 0.00%
GEN	477,920	 4.12%	658,971	 5.31%	431,013	 3.53%
SNES	592,760	 5.11%	199,801	 1.61%	14,652	 0.12%
SAT	249,400	 2.15%	54,604	 0.44%	6,105	 0.05%
PSX	5,779,120	 49.82%	7,617,258	 61.38%	6,722,826	 55.06%
N64	4,488,040	 38.69%	3,880,607	 31.27%	3,538,458	 28.98%
DC					1,498,167	 12.27%
PS2						
Total	11.60m		12.41m		12.21m	

	[U]2000	 Market %	2001	 Market %        TOTAL ('94-'01) [/U]
NES	none	 0.00%	none	 0.00%             427,014
GEN	54,337	 0.67%	+/- none	 0.01%             8,175,348
SNES	+/- none	 0.01%	+/- none	 0.0001%          5,729,381
SAT	+/- none	 0.01%	+/- none	 0.00%             1,281,123
PSX	3,176,687	 39.17%	2,222,724	 16.89%           28,076,677
N64	2,480,849	 30.59%	988,316	 7.51%             17,148,061
DC	1,308,954	 16.14%	1,152,816	 8.76%             3,959,937
PS2	1,087,551	 13.41%	6,185,200	 47.00%           7,272,751
Total	8.11m		13.16m

I hope it's not too confusing...
 
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koam

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wikipedia said:
Rivalry between the two companies produced what is possibly the most notorious console war in history. Nintendo would never achieve market leadership in Europe and did not manage to do so in the US until 1994, benefiting from the SNES's superior graphical capabilities and Sega's unsuccessful launch of the Sega CD.
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see. THESE DON'T INCLUDE WALMART DO THEY?
 
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Square2005

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Notice in 1994 how much the SNES was outsold by the Genesis (according to these NPD figures: which may have been lower in sales for Nintendo back then [maybe no walmart]) even tho that was the year Nintendo supposedly made a comeback with Donkey Kong Country.
 
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cvxfreak

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PSone: 28,076,677
N64: 17,148,061
Saturn: 1,281,123 (WTF did the Saturn really bomb this much in the US?)
SNES: 5,729,831
Genesis: 8,188,508

Is it possible the Genesis and SNES numbers were switched around? I do find it likely that Genesis sold more than SNES in 1995.
 
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Square2005

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CVXFREAK said:
PSone: 28,076,677
N64: 17,148,061
Saturn: 1,281,123 (WTF did the Saturn really bomb this much in the US?)
SNES: 5,729,831
Genesis: 8,188,508

Is it possible the Genesis and SNES numbers were switched around? I do find it likely that Genesis sold more than SNES in 1995.
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No I don't think there switched because when the Genesis 3 was released in 1998 there is an increase in sales over '97, which wouldn't make sense if it were the SNES because there's no increase in '98 over '97.
 
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cvxfreak

Member
Square2005 said:
No I don't think there switched because when the Genesis 3 was released in 1998 there is an increase in sales over '97, which wouldn't make sense if it were the SNES because there's no increase in '98 over '97.
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Ah, right.

Still, the SNES managed to sell 17 or so million in the US (like N64 actually) so I'd be damned if Nintendo sold like 9 Million of them right away (taking into account unaccounted sales and such).
 
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stone128

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Total sales figures:

NES: 61,780,000
Nintendo SNES: 49,020,000
Nintendo 64: 32,930,000
GameCube - 18.76 million (as of june 2005)

sales_chart.jpg



Seems like Nintendo has been on the decline ... forever. I thought the SNES sold more, it felt like it was the undisputed king, at least here in Europe.


Other:


Sega Master System: 13,000,000
Nintendo Gameboy: 118,420,000 (possibly includes color?)
Sega Game Gear: 8,650,000
Atari Lynx:

NEC Turbografx 16: 2,500,000 (est.)
NEC Turbografx CD:
Sega Mega Drive (Genesis): 30,750,000
(Sega CD): 2,500,000 (North America)
(Sega 32X): 50,000-200,000 (est.)
NEC Supergrafx:
SNK Neo Geo:
Philips CDi:
NEC TurboDuo:
SNK Neo Geo CD:
NEC PC-FX:
Atari Jaguar: 10,000 (est.)

Nintendo Virtual Boy: 770,000
Gameboy Color:

Panasonic 3DO:* 700,000 (est.)
Sony Playstation: 100,000,000
Sega Saturn: 9,260,000
Wonderswan color:
Game Boy Advance / GBA SP: 65,740,000
Nokia N-Gage: 1,300,000

Sega Dreamcast: 10,600,000
Sony Playstation 2: 81,390,000
Microsoft Xbox: 19,900,000
Nintendo Gamecube: 18,030,000
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Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
stone128 said:
Other:


Sega Master System: 13,000,000
Nintendo Gameboy: 118,420,000 (possibly includes color?)
Sega Game Gear: 8,650,000
Atari Lynx:

NEC Turbografx 16: 2,500,000 (est.)
NEC Turbografx CD:
Sega Mega Drive (Genesis): 30,750,000
(Sega CD): 2,500,000 (North America)
(Sega 32X): 50,000-200,000 (est.)
NEC Supergrafx:
SNK Neo Geo:
Philips CDi:
NEC TurboDuo:
SNK Neo Geo CD:
NEC PC-FX:
Atari Jaguar: 10,000 (est.)

Nintendo Virtual Boy: 770,000
Gameboy Color:

Panasonic 3DO:* 700,000 (est.)
Sony Playstation: 100,000,000
Sega Saturn: 9,260,000
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The GB/GBC split was 69.42/49.27 according to a thread here a while ago. I notice you're missing the Dreamcast, it sold 10.6 million according to the same thread.
 
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stone128

Member
Fuzzy said:
The GB/GBC split was 69.42/49.27 according to a thread here a while ago. I notice you're missing the Dreamcast, it sold 10.6 million according to the same thread.
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I didn't think anyone would notice :p Updated ^_^
 
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Version 3.0

Member
Sigh...the poor Jaguar. As if it wasn't a big enough failure, this list is all over the internet with it at 10,000 units. The Jaguar sold somewhere between 350,000 and 500,000 worldwide, not a measly 10k--it sold 10k in Japan alone, if I recall.

I don't have any good links--I read that in a magazine back in the day (wasn't much of an internet then), but here's a page that claims that Tempest 2000 for the Jag sold 350,000 copies (I remember reading that they _produced_ that many, not sold them--that
would be one hell of a tie ratio):

http://www.heartbone.com/comphist/Atari.htm

And here's another that claims "the german mag 'Megafun' says that 350000 Jaguars were sold in the USA and 50000 in Europe". Megafun is certainly not where I read it back then, but there you go.

http://www.atariarchives.org/cfn/12/08/0015.php

The 10k number for Japan, I can't prove, just know I read it somewhere, but I do have it in print somewhere in my Next Generation magazine collection, that the Jag sold ~1,000 units at launch in Japan, so it's not hard to believe it would reach 10 someday. It might be in Next Gen that I read the 500,000 estimate, but I don't have any way of finding that without reading every page of every issue...
 
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Agent X

Member
I think there were around 500,000 Jaguars sold total.

Next Generation magazine said several years ago that there were 345,000 copies of Alien vs. Predator sold. So, this game may have reached a remarkable 70% of the Jaguar userbase!
 
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Izzy

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Panasonic 3DO:* 700,000 (est.)
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Doubtful - an old EGM issue reported a million copies sold for GEX. (IIRC, October 1995) Surely 3DO sold much more than that?

And that Jag numbers is just laughable. FALSE.
 
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jenov4

Member
Welcome to GAF 1994 edition. Best viewed with Mosiac 0.01 alpha.

BTW, thanks for those numbers. Quite interesting to see these numbers tho. GO SNES!
 
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Version 3.0

Member
Izzy said:
Doubtful - an old EGM issue reported a million copies sold for GEX. (IIRC, October 1995) Surely 3DO sold much more than that?

And that Jag numbers is just laughable. FALSE.
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There were other versions of Gex, so they might have combined them. But I'm pretty sure I recall 3DO bragging about hitting a million (might have been a projection).
 
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Izzy

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Leondexter said:
There were other versions of Gex, so they might have combined them. But I'm pretty sure I recall 3DO bragging about hitting a million (might have been a projection).
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Doubtful. At that point of time, PS and SAT rev hadn't even been announced.
 
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genjiZERO

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fascinating, I could stare at these stats all night. The 18,000,000 GCNs vs 20,000,000 XBOXs is interesting. Really even with schitty 3rd party support it doesn't look so bad for Nintendo. I'd like to see comparisons between the two separated by region (Japan: NA: EU).
 
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sonycowboy

Member
Square2005 said:
Derived from info from this pdf I found: http://www.netinst.org/Clements_Ohashi.pdf
You can tell the annual NPD console sales between 1994 and 2001:
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Excellent find there :D

Fuzzy said:
The GB/GBC split was 69.42/49.27 according to a thread here a while ago. I notice you're missing the Dreamcast, it sold 10.6 million according to the same thread.
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Does anyone have the actual reporting that the Dreamcast WW number was based on? Did Sega put out any sort of report or make some comment at the end that was the basis for this? Or did some anonymous individual post the number and everyone just bought into it?
 
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Beatbox

alien from planet Highscore
Anyone have any CD-I sales figured? SURELY I am not the only person in the USA who bought one or two.
 
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Square2005

Banned
It would be awesome if someone was able to find/buy from the NPD, monthly hardware sales going back to '94 or earlier. I guess that may be asking too much. :D But if anyone has any sales numbers from before 2002 by all means please share it!
 
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JoshuaJSlone

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The real thing that jumps out at me is how much the total has increased. 1994 was 5.65 million, 1995 was 4.61 million... the lead console now beats these totals, let alone the millions sold by the other competitors.
 
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Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
genjiZERO said:
fascinating, I could stare at these stats all night. The 18,000,000 GCNs vs 20,000,000 XBOXs is interesting. Really even with schitty 3rd party support it doesn't look so bad for Nintendo. I'd like to see comparisons between the two separated by region (Japan: NA: EU).
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But what's even more interesting is how the N64 barely had a fraction of the third party games the GC did and it sold more than 12 million.
 
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Ganondorf>Link

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Oblivion said:
But what's even more interesting is how the N64 barely had a fraction of the third party games the GC did and it sold more than 12 million.
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Probably because the N64 went up against the PS1 for most of its life. While the GC went up against the PS2 and Xbox.
 
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HomerSimpson-Man

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Ganondorf>Link said:
Probably because the N64 went up against the PS1 for most of its life. While the GC went up against the PS2 and Xbox.
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Yeah, GC and Xbox pratically split up what was like N64's marketshare while Playstation 2...well...stayed Playstation with it' s marketshare at a faster pace.
 
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Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Ganondorf>Link said:
Probably because the N64 went up against the PS1 for most of its life. While the GC went up against the PS2 and Xbox.
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Hmm? Couldn't you say the N64 went up against the PS1 and Saturn too?
 
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ToxicAdam

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Found this nugget on the CD-i.

According to figures presented by Philips at a special press event held at the
Winter Consumer Electronics Show (WCES), there are currently 300,000 CD-i
units in consumers' hands. The goal for '94 is to bring the total number of
units sold to 1,000,000! If this is reached, CD-i will be established at a
viable growth point to insure its continued success. From the quality of titles
shown at WCES, and based upon the newer value priced players being offered,
this goal looks attainable. The reason for this growth is that Philips is
finally pushing CD-i as an entertainment system, rather than as an edutainment
and infotainment product only.


http://www.textfiles.com/games/guru1-1.txt


Alot of sales news is discussed at CES's. Maybe searching through those you can find elusive Jaguar and 3DO sales.
 
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Rock_Man

Member
From the same pdf, intstalled base were also given at the beginning of 1994. An easy calculation gives us the totals at the end of 2001:
NES 25,700,000 + 427,014 ~ 26,100,000
SNES 4,800,000 + 5,729,381 ~ 10,500,000
GEN 7,600,000 + 8,175,348 ~ 15,800,000
 
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cvxfreak

Member
SNES 4,800,000 + 5,729,381 ~ 10,500,000

WTF?

The SNES sold 46 Million worldwide, 16 Million of which were in Japan. So 20 Million SNESes in Europe?

Something is clearly up here, unless Canada/WalMart *really* rock for Nintendo.
 
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Rock_Man

Member
I know. I think these numbers are too low overall. Perhaps the pdf says something more about the them. I don´t have time to read it now though.
 
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Trellisaze

Member
As if those sales numbers for the Saturn didn't look bad enough, it's even more embarassing that its sales numbers were never high enough to pass the Genesis in any year.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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ironichaos said:
Fixed.
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There were plenty of competitors all along. Atari, Sega, NEC, Atari again, 3DO.

Although it would be fair to say Nintendo's share declined as their core audience grew up, they lost their monopoly power, and as they fell back on conservative strategies and failed to move with the market.
 
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