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[TEH-CJ]

So what the hell is going on?

 

[TEH-CJ]

Wow..so ps4 doesn't have access to the whole 8g of ram for games?? O_O

is this confirmed? or bullshit?

 

[Gold_Loot]

So what the hell is going on?

Nothing! Leave this place while you have your sanity!

Go now! They're watching.

 

[PushingButtons]

So what the hell is going on?

NeoGaf


Edit: But really holy crap at this thread. I mean, wow haha.

 

[ironchair]

Wow..so ps4 doesn't have access to the whole 8g of ram for games?? O_O

is this confirmed? or bullshit?

Not sure if srs...

 

[clav]

Wow..so ps4 doesn't have access to the whole 8g of ram for games?? O_O

is this confirmed? or bullshit?

first stage denial

 

[McSpidey]

This is the best way to futureproof the device. Remember how the PS3 never got cross-game chat? That's what happen when you under provision the OS resources.

 

[iNvid02]

Wow..so ps4 doesn't have access to the whole 8g of ram for games?? O_O

is this confirmed? or bullshit?

its true

hang in there man

 

[wizzbang]

3.5 seems excessive, why can't they do this with 2 or something? Such a huge amount of overhead :/

Also 'blowing' 3.5 of GDDR 5 for OS is dopey. Would've been cheaper to have a solid 6gb for the console and 2gb of 'normal' ram elsewhere for the OS surely?

 

[Tyrax]

3.5 GB OS. What OS are they using?
That gaiki streaming must be crazy heavy weight

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

This board used to have more intelligent discussions than this - even when in reactionary panic mode.

 

[140.85]

Nobody knows how much the OS uses.

We only know upwards of 3.5 MIGHT be off limits to games. FOR NOW. This is all still speculation.

 

[RoH]

This board used to have more intelligent discussions than this - even when in reactionary panic mode.

Yeah it's really gone down hill, all gentrified and shit.

 

[PFD]

Oh hey, they read NeoGAF

Spoiler

 

[Krilekk]

I guess it's inevitable they had to use some RAM for the OS.
what I don't get it why they need 3.5 GB, it's not like they're trying to be a fake ass media box like a certain product starting with a X

Game streaming and recording eat up sizeable chunks. And then there's the Eye. Kinect 2.0 is rumoured to need 1 GB just for sound processing. PS4 offers a similar 4 mic array.

 

[Kibbles]

GPU is weaker in xb
RAM is slower in xb
And less RAM, slower RAM, is potentially available for games in xb.

It doesn't change the landscape here.

I get the slower RAM but less? Xbox uses 3GB for OS, this article says 3.5 for PS4? I don't know what people keep twisting the 3.5 into 2.5 and lower.

 

[qko]

Game streaming and recording eat up sizeable chunks. And then there's the Eye. Kinect 2.0 is rumoured to need 1 GB just for sound processing. PS4 offers a similar 4 mic array.

People must realize that even though Sony dropped the PS Eye in order to keep the cost below $400, the system still is designed to consume memory for those that purchase one.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Bloody hell, the sooner this gets clarified the better.

I get the slower RAM but less? Xbox uses 3GB for OS, this article says 3.5 for PS4? I don't know what people keep twisting the 3.5 into 2.5 and lower.

Nobody is twisting anything. GAF insiders have already come out and said the RAM numbers are wrong and that the number is more like 1.5-2.5GB for the OS with a GB held for future upgrades. People keep making it 3.5GB to make it sound worse.

 

[FranXico]

I get the slower RAM but less? Xbox uses 3GB for OS, this article says 3.5 for PS4? I don't know what people keep twisting the 3.5 into 2.5 and lower.

4.5GB + 1GB "flexible" memory shared between the OS and games. = 5.5GB.

5.5 > 5 last I heard.

It's redundant at this point. Both machines have roughly the same amount of memory available.

 

[Hydrargyrus]

Could anyone explain me what does this means?
"PlayStation 4 reserves 3.5GB of its 8GB GDDR5 memory for the operating system, leaving 4.5GB of space for game code, according to current PlayStation 4 documentation shown to Digital Foundry by a well-placed development source. However, further sources suggest that an additional 1GB of "flexible memory" may be reclaimed from the OS reservation, based on availability

What is this 1GB of flexible memory, is it available for games or what?. Because if it's used for the OS, not all the games will be support some OS functions
If it is not used for games, which is it's use (for the flexible tittle)?

 

[Immaculate]

Someone ask Yoshida on twitter damnit

Spoiler

I don't have a twitter

 

[Boss Man]

But MS can offload processes to the cloud. PS4 will need the extra ram to run the ai and world lighting.

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not. I am not joking.

I need to take a break.

 

[kitch9]

But MS can offload processes to the cloud. PS4 will need the extra ram to run the ai and world lighting.

You are a joke character yes?

You must be.

I can't tell if you are being serious or not so you are fucking good at it.

 

[FranXico]

What is this 1GB of flexible memory, is it available for games or what?. Because if it's used for the OS, not all the games will be support some OS functions
If it is not used for games, which is it's use (for the flexible tittle)?

It probably means that the games can request to allocate memory from the "flexible" pool, but it may or may not be available depending on how much the OS is using.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Oculus Rift support on an OS level...is that possibly, gaf?