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Future NIS games to be PS4/Vita only, new PS4 game releasing later this year
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They actually specifically said in the interview that overseas support was a factor of jumping to PS4 so early. He said more than half of their sales come from overseas markets in the Famitsu interview
IAmRandom31
Banned
It's a shame the SRPG genre is so niche because the Disgaea series is the best in the business. Too bad they don't get very rewarded for that fact.
Day 1 get for me though. Can't wait
Regret Upon Approval
Member
Interesting given MS listed them as an Xbox developer.
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/2...tware-japanese-companies-xbox-one-developers/
So I guess that means some of that list is false filler then that'll need to be cleared away.
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/2...tware-japanese-companies-xbox-one-developers/
So I guess that means some of that list is false filler then that'll need to be cleared away.
Ah, well there we go. Makes sense.
I think that list is just for developers with Xbox One dev kits, but not necessarily developers that are actively developing for the platform.
aspiegamer
Member
This is an accurate description of Disgaea combat. Why would you smack someone in the face to kill them when you can summon a gigantic freaking meteor and kill them for 1000x+ their normal HP? I'm going to be bummed out if there's no 100 Billion Damage trophy. Guess they could up it to 1 trillion. I'd be okay with that.
Sony is burying NIS under Bloodborne in Japan this week so this is the very least they could do!
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Man, NIS hasn't made a game I cared about in years. Their style just annoys me to no end. Still, I think its good they're migrating to PS4--they could use more exclusive games.
Newtype-001
Member
Bless, ill buy disgaea 5 day 1 to support + any other interesting looking games.
Wow. That's a bit...don't know the word
ULTROS!
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They're publishing great non-NIS games as of late such as Danganronpa.
Their latest portfolio of localized non-first party games are better than Atlus' localized non-first party games IMO.
NIS never made games for Xbox. They did make a few games for Wii, DS, and PC, but they bombed and NIS moved back to being PlayStation exclusive. It is more notable that they've dropped support of PS3 because of the Anime nature of their games appealing to Japan. I mean, they make the Disgaea games for crying out loud and that's as Anime as you can get.
OuterLimits
Member
I'm looking forward to Disgaea 5, but I imagine the sales in both Japan and the West are going to be abysmal. They will probably make some money on the DLC though since they are ridiculously expensive.
Cornbread78
Member
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I'll support you NIS.
Makes sense at this point.
Maybe not so much the Vita part (To me anyways), but I guess there's money in it considering the amount of support they seem to throw that platform's way.
"Embarassing"?
Maybe not so much the Vita part (To me anyways), but I guess there's money in it considering the amount of support they seem to throw that platform's way.
"Embarassing"?
SerTapTap
Member
I think Neptunia sells better in the west, or at least it sells quite well, so that may be part of why IF/CH have moved on so quick (and they're pretty snappy about localizing lately). Dunno about NIS, but Disgaea seems reasonably popular.
I always liked NISA's output, but Dangan Ronpa has been a great get for them. Good thing too, Neptunia's kind of an awkward loss for them...it even had it's own section on NISA's store until Idea Factory International happened.
SerTapTap
Member
Prepare to be disappointed in that regard? They made all of two DS games and one Wii game. It's possible they'll do Steam as assorted random JApanese devs have lately, but I wouldn't expect much for Nintendo hardware and the Steam thing is a crapshoot at best.
GhostTrick
Banned
I personally wouldn't mind if they revisited a concept like The Witch and the Hundred Knight on PS4 or Vita.
I don't think they'll cancel the PS3 version though.
Now that you mention it, we haven't really heard anything new on the localization for a while.
I don't think they'll cancel the PS3 version though.
It isn't really Sony's choice what Atlus does with their releases and it's coming to PS4 anyway.
Kresnik258
Member
While I do respect them for doing this, I kinda feel like it's a necessary move because the PS3 base just wasn't buying their games anymore. They had a string of poorly performing games recently:
551 PS3 Battle Princess of Arcadias 9,854 / 11,983 2013-09-26
618 PS3 Z/X Zillions of enemy X: Zekkai no Crusade 6,758 / 8,607 2013-05-23
669 PS3 The Awakened Fate: Ultimatum 6,443 / 6,443 2014-09-25
Awakened Fate in particularly I'd have expected to perform a lot better.
So I kinda feel like they're making all this noise of "hey, we're on a new machine now!" to try and re-invigorate the old fans who were buying their games to come back again.
(Though admittedly, Witch & Hundred Knight sold decently in 2013).
In addition, it's nice to hear them pledging support for Vita, but I feel like they're much too late to the party here and should've been doing this at any point in the last 3 years when PS3 was starting to sag.
Yes, in terms of numbers of titles they have supported it - but there was a long, long period where they released nothing substantial on it (a port of Disgaea for launch and an original VN in the first year... and then nothing for 12 months until a port of a PSP title).
2014 was a much better year for them supporting Vita, but we're still looking at Disgaea port, and two "indie-esque" titles. Shin Hayarigami feels like the most worthwhile original title they've put on the console, and that was still a multi-plat VN.
For a company that grew up creating original SRPG's, it sure doesn't feel like they're throwing any substantial support behind Vita.
Anyway, I wish them luck with this plan. I own both a PS4 and a Vita and I like NIS, so I'm certainly looking forward to what they have cooking, I just hope this works out for them.
551 PS3 Battle Princess of Arcadias 9,854 / 11,983 2013-09-26
618 PS3 Z/X Zillions of enemy X: Zekkai no Crusade 6,758 / 8,607 2013-05-23
669 PS3 The Awakened Fate: Ultimatum 6,443 / 6,443 2014-09-25
Awakened Fate in particularly I'd have expected to perform a lot better.
So I kinda feel like they're making all this noise of "hey, we're on a new machine now!" to try and re-invigorate the old fans who were buying their games to come back again.
(Though admittedly, Witch & Hundred Knight sold decently in 2013).
In addition, it's nice to hear them pledging support for Vita, but I feel like they're much too late to the party here and should've been doing this at any point in the last 3 years when PS3 was starting to sag.
Yes, in terms of numbers of titles they have supported it - but there was a long, long period where they released nothing substantial on it (a port of Disgaea for launch and an original VN in the first year... and then nothing for 12 months until a port of a PSP title).
2014 was a much better year for them supporting Vita, but we're still looking at Disgaea port, and two "indie-esque" titles. Shin Hayarigami feels like the most worthwhile original title they've put on the console, and that was still a multi-plat VN.
For a company that grew up creating original SRPG's, it sure doesn't feel like they're throwing any substantial support behind Vita.
Anyway, I wish them luck with this plan. I own both a PS4 and a Vita and I like NIS, so I'm certainly looking forward to what they have cooking, I just hope this works out for them.
thequickandthedead
Member
"Do not wait for a PS Vita port, and please, play the PlayStation 4 version"
lol. I can already tell they'll downport it if the PS4 version doesn't sell.
Theonik
Member
Their games don't need to sell that much and they have a dedicated fanbase that will jump ship with them. It's a lot easier for companies serving a niche to do this.
Think of all the silly Cave shooter on JP 360 arguments, anyone who actually cared just bought a 360. Sure it was not a lot of people but it didn't matter in the end.
Cornbread78
Member
The only thing we have to go by is that Steam DB leak, we'll see if it makes it to NA/EU in proper form..
lazyproblems
Member
Good to hear that they've embraced the PS4. Looking forward to their games there. And of course the vita support is great.
What's that sound I hear? It's like nails, being pounded. Oh, is that a coffin I see?
Pessimism aside, about time really. I'm guessing they saw others' success and followed it. Although I'm confused just what exactly they'll do with the Vita considering they've mostly done ports and cheaper games with it.
It probably doesn't help that all their forays into other consoles/portables were pretty bad. Disgaea DS was a pretty weak port considering what the DS could actually do. ClaDun 2 was a bad port as well and if that's what they used to test the waters on PC/Steam no wonder it soured their opinions(although there's always that rumour of false data regarding PC interest...).
Still, good luck to them. 25pts in preorders is not an inspiring number though.
I'm gonna be harsh though and call Awakened Fate a flat out bad game. Perhaps not deserving sales that low but considering the developers of ZHP and Guided Fate didn't work on it(cause they left), in addition to dropping a ton of features from those 2 previous games(for the worse), and just being generally lower budget, it did not really seem like a PS3 game worth selling for $40.
Witch did do well but it's mentioned elsewhere that it was still a loss. It had hugely troubled development, exceeding almost 3 years, and had its release date delayed over a year and a half. From existing screenshots and interviews, you could tell they had to redo a lot of the game because it just wouldn't work as they had originally envisioned, which most likely wasted a lot of time.
Pessimism aside, about time really. I'm guessing they saw others' success and followed it. Although I'm confused just what exactly they'll do with the Vita considering they've mostly done ports and cheaper games with it.
It probably doesn't help that all their forays into other consoles/portables were pretty bad. Disgaea DS was a pretty weak port considering what the DS could actually do. ClaDun 2 was a bad port as well and if that's what they used to test the waters on PC/Steam no wonder it soured their opinions(although there's always that rumour of false data regarding PC interest...).
Still, good luck to them. 25pts in preorders is not an inspiring number though.
Back around the time Victory came out they released a statement saying it was their 2nd highest selling franchise behind Disgaea, so yeah that's a good chunk of profit lost for them and pocketed by IF. Probably made up by DanganRonpa.
Arcadias was under-appreciated and misunderstood I feel. It was far more of an indie-style game (like Firefly Diary) and I don't think people expected that, let alone wanted it on a PS3.
I'm gonna be harsh though and call Awakened Fate a flat out bad game. Perhaps not deserving sales that low but considering the developers of ZHP and Guided Fate didn't work on it(cause they left), in addition to dropping a ton of features from those 2 previous games(for the worse), and just being generally lower budget, it did not really seem like a PS3 game worth selling for $40.
Witch did do well but it's mentioned elsewhere that it was still a loss. It had hugely troubled development, exceeding almost 3 years, and had its release date delayed over a year and a half. From existing screenshots and interviews, you could tell they had to redo a lot of the game because it just wouldn't work as they had originally envisioned, which most likely wasted a lot of time.
Sony is on a tear selling off, downsizing or closing studios and divesting shares in game companies. They've had one reasonable quarter in the last few years and can't staunch the bleeding. How is it a stupid statement exactly? It sounds like you agree that there's no point in them buying but feel compelled to stand up for poor old Sony's bank account for some reason.
Stone Ocean
Member
This is about NIS' inhouse output, not NISA
Yeah because Sony is the one who's publishing/developing Persona 5...
The Last Wizard
Member
Kind of sounds like NIS want to lead the rpg front on PS4 before the big dogs get here, that way they can have their usual fanbase and possibly expand on it.
Except that their usual fanbase are still on the PS3 and Vita, not on the PS4, at least not yet.
Kresnik258
Member
I've been hoping they'll make Prinny 3 for a while, too. But there was a pretty major decline from the first to the second in Japan.
388 PSP Prinny: Can I Really Be the Hero? 17,535 / 35,120
595 PSP Prinny 2: Dawn of Operation Panties, Dood! 8,062 / 16,217
And I've a feeling with the state the Vita is in in the USA, they're not going to make up much of a difference there, so it seems unlikely.
Still, there's been a push for more "indie-esque" games from NIS lately, especially for Vita (HTOL#NIQ) but also PS3 (Battle Princess) and I suppose Prinny could fall into that category, so you never know!
LiquidSolid
Member
I'm not defending their bank account, I'm pointing out a dumb and wrong statement. Did you even read Y2Kev's post? Sony have access to plenty of resources if required.
cj_iwakura
Member
Because Prinny 2 wasn't half as good as Prinny 1.
Because making the game available to wider audiences is such a bad idea? Give me a break. P5 started as a PS3 game, the least they could do is let PS3 owners play it.
If only XV and Type-0 had done the same.
CaviarMeths
Member
If that's the case, it would be really cool of Sony to sell me a 128gb Vita card. My living room is cluttered enough at the moment with the Wii U, PS3, and 360. Don't really plan on buying a PS4 any time soon, so I'm looking forward to NIS's support for the Vita.