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Gabe Newell prefers Xbox Series X to PS5

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Gabe looks so zen like he is.

I would have wished he gave more information as to why, but he probably can't.

Anyway, Gabe is a big MS fan, he used to work there and I get the impression he still has many friends inside the company... but this is the personal stuff, we can't argue with "because it's better" that can literally mean anything.
PS5 speed architecture is challenging the PC so it's a threat. PCs need to overhaul a lot of standards to match. the windows file system needs to change and hardware need faster physical access the SSD.
 

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LMAO my bad my sarcasm radar is on the Fritz. Never can tell on GAF
Don't get me wrong I am heavily biased to PlayStation but I just don't think his opinion has any bearing on anything.
I really think we are seeing more divergent gaming habits.... core mobile gaming: Nintendo, core premium home console gaming: PlayStation, core subscription based gaming: Xbox and then PC gaming (open Platform gaming)...
 
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I don't know, makes sense to me. Dude is mostly about PC and Series X is the more straightforward "PC style" upgrade.
Man, if this thread is any indication, there's going to be some legendary meltdowns when both consoles are out and (if) Series X performs a bit better in most multiplatform games.
360 wiped the floor with PS3 when it came to mutiplatform games and we all know how that turned out. I'm fine with 'a bit better'.
 
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Finally a sensible title. Meanwhile everywhere else including IGN are pushing the false narrative that Gaben said Xbox Series X is better than PS5. He merely said he'd pick Xbox over Ps5 this holiday, that is it. There's nothing more to write about it. But hey clickbait sells
 

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360 wiped the floor with PS3 when it came to mutiplatform games and we all know how that turned out. I'm fine with 'a bit better'.
They need all the power they can muster.... cause right now, nothing on Xbox SX looked anywhere near as good as any of the games at the PS5 reveal. IMO

That texture pop-in, the quality of textures and lighting..... pretty bad. The whole world in HI just looked lifeless and static. No wind, particles disappearing too fast, the Banshee? just looked like it was floating with no physics...
 
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PS5 speed architecture is challenging the PC so it's a threat. PCs need to overhaul a lot of standards to match. the windows file system needs to change and hardware need faster physical access the SSD.


PS5 does not challenge the pc in any shape or form. For one, you could build a pc in 2018 faster than what the ps5 will be at the end of 2020. It does not challenge anything at all. The ssd is benny hill level of hilarity at this point. It is the least important part in these systems. How did people come to obsess over the storage device of all things ... Thinking gamedesign will have this huge paradigm shift because of the fucking storage. Mind blowing.

Second, the most important part. PC gamers dont care about consoles in the slightest. It doesnt matter how strong ps5 or xbox will be. A PC gamer is not gonna buy a console so he can play a cinematic adventure game with a controller. He wants to play a PC specific game with mouse and keyboard, and use mods. This is the aspect console forums like this and resetera consistently miss. They think PC gamers all have consoles in the background for "exclusives". When the reality is they dont. They're pc gamers because they like pc games. Tailored made pc games. They dont want to use a controller to play console games.
 

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PS5 does not challenge the pc in any shape or form. For one, you could build a pc in 2018 faster than what the ps5 will be at the end of 2020. It does not challenge anything at all. The ssd is benny hill level of hilarity at this point. It is the least important part in these systems. How did people come to obsess over the storage device of all things ... Thinking gamedesign will have this huge paradigm shift because of the fucking storage. Mind blowing.

Second, the most important part. PC gamers dont care about consoles in the slightest. It doesnt matter how strong ps5 or xbox will be. A PC gamer is not gonna buy a console so he can play a cinematic adventure game with a controller. He wants to play a PC specific game with mouse and keyboard, and use mods. This is the aspect console forums like this and resetera consistently miss. They think PC gamers all have consoles in the background for "exclusives". When the reality is they dont. They're pc gamers because they like pc games. Tailored made pc games. They dont want to use a controller to play console games.
you can't build an integrated PC system that's faster than the PS5, not even next year. you can only buy part's that are individually faster than corresponding PS5 part. but the PC will be bottle-necked by I/O and the windows file system.
 

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They need all the power they can muster.... cause right now, nothing on Xbox SX looked anywhere near as good as any of the games at the PS5 reveal. IMO

That texture pop-in, the quality of textures and lighting..... pretty bad. The whole world in HI just looked lifeless and static. No wind, particles disappearing too fast, the Banshee? just looked like it was floating with no physics...

That was 343is fault, not the system itself. There will be great looking games for XSX. Amazing looking games.

It just comes down to what software you want.
PS5 does not challenge the pc in any shape or form. For one, you could build a pc in 2018 faster than what the ps5 will be at the end of 2020. It does not challenge anything at all. The ssd is benny hill level of hilarity at this point. It is the least important part in these systems. How did people come to obsess over the storage device of all things ... Thinking gamedesign will have this huge paradigm shift because of the fucking storage. Mind blowing.

Hey look, yet another person that doesn't get it at all. It's crazy how prevalent this is even with clearly laid out explanations about what the design means.
 
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My RPG characters always look like that picture; Long grey hair which is almost tramp like, and a big white bushy beard.

We will see which one he prefers when he's selling console exclusivity to HL:Alyx
 
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I was more surprised that Gabe is arranging a festival, and that he says VR motion sickness is just a hardware/software bug that shouldn’t exist in theory. Who cares what console he likes?
 

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Keep repeating that, if you think that helps the point you are trying to making (if there is even a point that is).
Didn't need your permission but will do when necessary.

The point was you're trying to pull some conspiracy shit out of your ass as a plausable reason for him prefering Xbox rather than just prefering it because its the better system, on paper and hardware.
 

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That was 343is fault, not the system itself. There will be great looking games for XSX. Amazing looking games.

It just comes down to what software you want.


Hey look, yet another person that doesn't get it at all. It's crazy how prevalent this is even with clearly laid out explanations about what the design means.
I haven't seen anything yet... looks like most of the stuff was CGI and a few years out... which is fine, I mean PS4 took a while to get going. I just thought they would put in a bigger effort after the generation they've had....
 
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PS5 speed architecture is challenging the PC so it's a threat. PCs need to overhaul a lot of standards to match. the windows file system needs to change and hardware need faster physical access the SSD.
....as an Xbox fan I can confirm PC master race does not give an imaginary fxck about a "threat" from either PS5 or the SXS.
There will be more powerful PC's by the time the "world's most powerful console" launches. And there are Currently NVME SSD's being developed that rival the 9gig/s reads on the PS5. At most consoles can push PCs to evolve more quickly but we will literally never leap over them. Evey gen, Evey cycle console specs are announced and more powerful PC's are available by launch
 

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Its not about if he is lying or telling the truth lol.

Answering "its better" doesnt tell us jack.

In any decent interview the follow up question to gabens answer would be "why is the x better than the playstation?"
 

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Gabe: ”I like Xbox better than Playstation.”

GAF:
 

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Its not about if he is lying or telling the truth lol.

Answering "its better" doesnt tell us jack.

In any decent interview the follow up question would be "why is the x better than the playstation?"
...c'mon man. Let's not do this. I don't want to bait a console war, you know why it's objectively more powerful and I know why the PS5 is objectively faster. This guy makes money from PC-sphere what do you expect him to say,? He knows his shit and we understand the opinion
 
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you can't build an integrated PC system that's faster than the PS5, not even next year. you can only buy part's that are individually faster than corresponding PS5 part. but the PC will be bottle-necked by I/O and the windows file system.


PC is not gonna be bottlenecked by the i/o. That marketing, jesus. Does anyone actually believe that any game will be made so it specifically require the maximum theoretical PEAK of the ps5 ssd ? That will require exactly that particular aspect ? How will they make the game that needs that ? They cant even make multithreaded games properly most of the time and we had those for almost 2 decades. What sort of game it will be that needs consistent ssd access at peak speeds ?

Every other part in the consoles will be infinitely more important and used until the ssd will matter in such specific ways. PC will not be bottlenecked in the slightest, at any point now or in the future
 

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....as an Xbox fan I can confirm PC master race does not give an imaginary fxck about a "threat" from either PS5 or the SXS.
There will be more powerful PC's by the time the "world's most powerful console" launches. And there are Currently NVME SSD's being developed that rival the 9gig/s reads on the PS5. At most consoles can push PCs to evolve more quickly but we will literally never leap over them. Evey gen, Evey cycle console specs are announced and more powerful PC's are available by launch
Windows will take a long time to change the file system if ever. the PS5 will achieve things the PC can't for a couple of years. that's why they are angry. I'v been playing PC since 30 years. but I'v never isolated myself in it. majority of gamers are open ended like me.
 

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Windows will take a long time to change the file system if ever. the PS5 will achieve things the PC can't for a couple of years. that's why they are angry. I'v been playing PC since 30 years. but I'v never isolated myself in it. majority of gamers are open ended like me.

Dream on, your magic SSD is not going to do the miracles you think it will.
 

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Windows will take a long time to change the file system if ever. the PS5 will achieve things the PC can't for a couple of years. that's why they are angry. I'v been playing PC since 30 years. but I'v never isolated myself in it. majority of gamers are open ended like me.
....you realize that the windows is bound only to the Ram and processing needed to run idle in the background right? It's 2020, most PCs are built to spec knowing exactly how much to set aside for an operating system that ships with the hardware when building a monster rig. A console is just that...a closed source gaming PC/console. The OS running on PS5/XSX will be less taxing to keep everything together in the background but let's not act like windows 10 is such a Hog that PC games have not been kicking consoles in the anal cavity for the last 30 yrs. 2020 is not THE YEAR for an operating system to finally Bog down a fully modified gaming PC to the point where it's outperformed by a console.
Kracken with every trick bell and whistles couldn't run MS flight simulator at full fidelity. The XVA probably won't either
 

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....as an Xbox fan I can confirm PC master race does not give an imaginary fxck about a "threat" from either PS5 or the SXS.
There will be more powerful PC's by the time the "world's most powerful console" launches. And there are Currently NVME SSD's being developed that rival the 9gig/s reads on the PS5. At most consoles can push PCs to evolve more quickly but we will literally never leap over them. Evey gen, Evey cycle console specs are announced and more powerful PC's are available by launch
To play games made for consoles
 

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Glad he likes the XSX better, he must have his reason. I just find it entertaining how much he would have been accused of shilling for Sony if he had said something else lol (I guess it would be mean to think about Sony cozying up with Epic Games Store factoring in this at all hehe ;))

When the OG PS4 released the hw was better than the OG XB1.
No one was silly enough to argue otherwise.

Now the reverse is true XSX hw > PS5 hw but people will still argue otherwise.
It would have been asinine for anyone to say OGXB1 was better than PS4 and now the reverse is true.
 

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God I hope there is a difference.

Yeah not going to lie that shit looked rough and the Halo infinite reveal pissed me off(hopes too high?). I'm worried 343 might have botched the franchise or MS put too much faith/$$$ into them but that doesn't change the fact that the XSX is the most powerful piece of hardware launching this holiday. How soon Devs show this in game is up to Ninja theor- I mean time. It's all up to time
 
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Yeah not going to lie that shit looked rough and the Halo infinite reveal pissed me off(hopes too high?). I'm worried 343 might have botched the franchise or MS put too much faith/$$$ into them but that doesn't change the fact that the XSX is the most powerful piece of hardware launching this holiday. How soon Devs show this in game is up to Ninja theor- I mean time. It's all up to time

Proof is the end results. We wait. About time MS showed something running on the console, up until now we dont even know if anything is running on XSX.