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"Just to give a background, I’m a gamer for life. I probably had one or two hundred X-Box 360 games"
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I’m not sure about that. Guerilla Games who creates shooters creating Horizon Zero Dawn was a huge risk. Ratchet and Clank a platformer these days is a risk. Gravity Rush got a well deserved sequel and that’s another risk. Until Dawn, Ghost of tsunami, Gran Turismo, Motorstorm, Bloodborne, Demons Souls, Last of Us, Uncharted to name a few.
Sony probably has the most diverse portfolio out of the big three and seems to give their developers the most freedom. Nintendo is creative as well, but they tend to stick to tried and true, familiar franchises with a few new IP’s in between.
Hopefully, Sony’s newly found controversial direction won’t be too influential to their nationwide presence, creativity process and freedom and they will still cater to ALL regions and gamers.
Sony’s taking high risks making all their games third person cinematic experiences. It takes guts to spit the same game out with another theme over and over again.
Exactly! Thanks for helping prove my point.
TLOU2 - 3rd person cinematic featuring stealth bush hiding.
GoT - 3rd person cinematic featuring stealth bush hiding.
I do agree that Sony has a pretty diverse portfolio and you could make a case that it's more diverse than Nintendo or MS, but thing is you could make a case otherwise both financially and creatively. Sony doesn't have a Ori and the Blind Forest or Cuphead, it didn't just buy two CRPG studios in [current year]. It doesn't have Super Mario Odyssey or Octopath Traveller and I don't think I need to name any kind of hardware risks Nintendo took from motion controls to a hybrid console. Naming examples doesn't make an argument correct when that goes both ways.
Point is, Sony has a good product and they have had one for 25 years. I've bought basically every gaming hardware they have put out and I was very pleased by each of them. I love their library. My GOAT game is a Sony exclusive. I hate how their fans act like Sony does something that nobody else does. It doesn't. Nintendo and MS also offer a good alternative should you want that and thankfully we live in a free market where we can choose what better suits our need.
Pretty much, this has gotten so silly that people are saying that The God of Us exemplifies bravery and boldness.
They censored Death Mark, a adventure/horror game, one of the last retail releases on the Vita i want, utterly stupid
One Angry Gamer has an article stating that the game would've received an AO rating from the ESRB if that scene wasn't changed.Did sony or did Aksys censor it for ESRB? Because the japanese version isn't censored.
http://www.gamepitt.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Death-Mark-6.jpg This is the only thing I have found that is changed.
One Angry Gamer has an article stating that the game would've received an AO rating from the ESRB if that scene wasn't changed.
The more these discussion go the more they go in circles and to sometimes a bit absurd levels.
In the same post you both stated that you think Sony has a very diverse portfolio and that essentially all they make is third person cinematic interactive adventures (which ignores a huge host of games they have published and is IMHO a very reductive way of describing the experience their games provide and how they enrich and diversify the console overall lineup... taking away the word interactive and thinking about movies aren’t they all or wel most of them third person cinematic adventures and thus all the same? Adventure + action + third person or Blade Runner == Indiana Jones ?).
We are indeed lucky that we have three quite creative and in their own way innovative platform holders. It sometimes seems that Sony cannot be seem as innovating ever as the “c’mon do not act as Sony is the only one innovating” gets repeated each and every time someone talks about some area (like VR) where they are doing some innovation too for example.
That's the smart decision, Sony are going to get absolutely pummelled by Microsoft and Nintendo next gen. Not to mention, Amazon and Google when they release their consoles.
Doesn't look like it unless Sony has clout with ESRB.So it has nothing to do with Sony?
Playlink was a gamble, vr was a gambleYeah those countless third person action games are super unique gambles.....
When was the last time Sony did anything risky or pioneered something brand new? The only game I can think of is Dreams which will likely sink Media Molecule.
Nintendo is one company I done with until they can offer a near 4K gaming console that has BC with all previous generations. I love Mario and Zelda, but if those games look like shit on my 55inch OLED, I wont bother.
Few months ago it was the cross play issue. Now it’s this.
I’m as frustrated as anyone else when it comes to how Sony are playing their cards as this gen peters out. I was hoping for a vastly smoother transition to next gen.
I’m basically done with Sony too, my enthusiasm for PlayStation is at an all-time low, particularly with their execution of the Classic and their overall messaging since Andrew House left.
For me, MS and Sony are on equal footing as far as considering where my money goes next gen. Sony getting my money isn’t locked in like it has been for the past 4 generations of consoles, plus their handhelds. They are basically starting for square-1 with me, and I never thought I’d be saying anything like this.
I don’t even own an Xbox One or 360.
How could current Switch practically have BC support for WiiU/Wii discs? And why aren't you holding MS and Sony up to that all previous gen BC standard as well?
I don't know which 55"OLED you're using but on mine 720p-1080p still look good enough for me. So you're skipping all PS4 games that don't have Pro support as well?
omg
you seriously see forums as a place where one "camp" is constantly trolling other "camp" with some horse shit
nonsense ?
i see that not as a result of lol diversity
it is a result of people with attitiude like that
childish paranoid crazies trolling other "camp" trying to prove something or win something
but the only gain in that situation to have is fucking sorry ass sad state of this forum
also mods that just don't give a fuck
can't the extreme fans just stick to what they enjoy and "worship" it there?
leaving the rest to have normal discussions about stuff?
nothing wrong with fans being hyped or even overexcited about things
but i am sick and tired to see every sony, nd whatever thread infested with so much bs
and if the same is happening in xbox threads then the same apply
i just don't visit these threads so i wouldn't know
what's the end game of this fighting?
you want this to be xboxgaf?
how does it make for diverse forums
and more important how does it make fun friendly forum?
Considering everything they have done for PS4 and PSVR over the years, if their biggest problems / faults are handling of the crossplay controversy (which they copped out to, unlike their competition during the previous generation), the PS Classics (one product outside their core offering, not great, but did not kill anyone ... not worse than Kinect's handling this generation), and the a bit exaggerated censorship controversy (IMHO)... I would expect people to feel a lot more positive.
PS4 is a very desirable console to own and I am not sure they could have done much better with it. Still, I take it you are super mega disappointed. I just honestly do not understand the huge amount of frustration and how they seemingly lost the customer loyalty of someone who bought every single HW they have made for about 25 years. Could have they done more bullish PR and be even more present last year and could have they remained at E3? Perhaps, but their action were positive and speaking quite loudly. As a gamer 2018 was exceptional for PS4 too and 2019 has tons of titles on the horizon.
Still, not an attack or trying to tell you how to feel, just a bit puzzled that is all.
Why are you comparing something that's gone with something that are here now?
They are upset with Sony now. They can be not upset with Sony later. It's not puzzling, it's really simple.
True, but the guy said nothing about VC though so I assume he wants to see all physical media from previous generations be usable on a Nintendo console and that's not reasonable with something the size of a Switch.Well, they could have expanded on Virtual Console instead of discontinuing it for example.
Sure and if they were posting in their own private diary I would not intrude their privacy. I am not even challenging them, just engaging in a conversation as honestly, I do not understand the huge huge disappointment and curiosity urged me to ask those questions/talk about it. I am not challenging a personal belief, ultimately it is their own.
I see that you are trying to understand. I get that. But you are trying to sell them the console back, and that's actually challenging their belief.
True, but the guy said nothing about VC though so I assume he wants to see all physical media from previous generations be usable on a Nintendo console and that's not reasonable with something the size of a Switch.
And yes Nintendo should work towards making all their games available via VC eventually... =(
I am not trying to sell them the console back, but yes I am stating how I feel and comparing it to how he feels. While I am not trying to be aggressive and dismissive (I am not challenging his right to feel this way, just maybe a bit of the reasons why), I guess discussion forums do have a certain modicum of discussions amongst people that disagree and are not designed as safe spaces to shout anything in and leave. Not sure why I am spending so many words answering back on this, but you asked and I replied... I guess I like to chat .
Sony can’t even do PS1 BC well when they release it for $100
It’s funny how you got triggered by it, but gotta say I wasn’t surprised.
Diversity is good, cus then you can find other people that enjoy the same platform as you do. I don’t want Gaf to be xboxGAF, PCGAF etc, that goes against diversity.
If that's all you care about why not pick up a used PS3?
Will likely cost you less, plays ps1 discs as well as digital issues, is a dvd/blu-ray player/smart TV box, has free online etc.
Playstation Classic was more a novelty than anything else, that its gotten so much coverage just tells me some people are just hungry to have something to bitch about.
Actually that sums up this thread quite nicely.
He would need a PS4 and a PS3 to do what he said.
You’re making a lot of idiotic assumptions about me. First off my main reason for not supporting the Switch is that it is drastically underpowered and delivers visual quality that I find unacceptable for my TV. The X and Pro don’t have that problem.How could current Switch practically have BC support for WiiU/Wii discs? And why aren't you holding MS and Sony up to that all previous gen BC standard as well?
I don't know which 55"OLED you're using but on mine 720p-1080p still look good enough for me. So you're skipping all PS4 games that don't have Pro support as well?
Yeah why would anyone be hyped to play some of these:
funny triggered not surprised
yeah fuck off
i am not in the mood to feed u now
diversity is good ? like really ? work on your reading skills
also good luck on your diversity when soon there will be only trolls left here
that's the parents job not sony's and Sony came out as an alternative to the kiddy NintendoKind of says it right there.
Hence the censorship on children.
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With statements like that, don't be surprised you get idiotic assumptions.Nintendo is one company I done with until they can offer a near 4K gaming console that has BC with all previous generations.
if the people who run the company are arrogantCompanies are made of hundreds/thousands of people. A company can't be arrogant lol. Only individuals can be.
Please explain how they have been stupid, lazy, and uninspired AF?I've always been on Sony's team. Well except when the Gamecube was released.
But since the PS4 success they've been stupid, lazy and uninspired AF.
You aren’t helping your cause, you only show my statement is true.
Yes. I do have different standards for different companies. I don't place as much of a premium on BC for MS and Sony because of the fact that both of those platforms have more than enough to offer on their current gen platforms for me to consider BC a deal breaker. As I stated in my previous post, Nintendo does simply not have enough to offer to me in terms of software or hardware for me to consider their purchase. That is unlikely to change as they simply don't have the resources of Son and MS. I stated that one way that Nintendo could get me on board would be to release a more powerful version of the Switch and re-release their older Mario and Zelda games as far back as the Gamecube era. They could be remasters or BC, I couldn't care which. That would give the Switch a huge library of exclusives. That Nintendo simply doesn't have.With statements like that, don't be surprised you get idiotic assumptions.
You completely ignore that Sony and MS don't have all previous gen BC either but you expect Nintendo to have it before even considering giving them one cent. This is a double standard of yours.