Gaffer Claims To Have Created SuperPS3 (improved textures, draw-distance.. in games)

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Here's the deal, yo.

One of the biggest differences between analogue and digital signals is that, in the case of analogue signals, the signal itself can be incomplete but still contain enough information to be correctly interpreted by the receiver. This is not the case for digital information, because it's made up of on/off (1/0) information which does not in itself describe to the receiver how to actually interpret it; as such, it needs to be converted from digital information into a digital representation of analogue information then sent to the receiver.

So the reality is that you can improve analogue signals with physical alterations because they can contain small amounts of interference without dying totally, but that isn't the case at all with digital signals. I'm not sure what Mr Hubbard thinks he has done here, but you can't make the 1s and 0s bigger in a digital signal or anything like that. They are what they are.
 
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rhubbard16 said:
You can run CIE specific test patterns X,Y, at a native rate from USB, also to be correct before running said test patterns you will need to match resolution input/output before having a correct pattern to display and calibrate content on. Since there is a slow point here not all HDMI are created equal content constraints are a huge limited in testing the signal path for errors.
It's like it went from one of my old engineering textbooks through a Google translate to Chinese and then back again to English.
 
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rhubbard16 said:
Both are completely improved. The display is modified, the signal path is modified, the source content is modified. All calibrated to 1998 CIE standards in HD CS.
Be careful with how much information you divulge. I have no doubts Sony and other nefarious corporations are reading with interest in your discovery. You may also want to patent your work later on so be sure to not post detailed information for others to copy.
 

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rhubbard16 said:
RON? Both are completely improved. The display is modified, the signal path is modified, the source content is modified. All calibrated to 1998 CIE standards in HD CS.
The only way to prove your point is either posting really good pictures. Something where you can compare, not guess. Or getting comparative measurements of the HDMI eye output of the PS3 original and modified.

Talk is nothing.

Also, may I be frank? You are deluding yourself. I don't mean that in any hostile way but face it: you made audiophile adjustments to improve the output of the digital HDMI transmitter. Think about it. The ONLY thing that may have improved something is soldering the HDMI which may have suffered from a bad connection.
So far there have been 2 transmitters:
http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?title=HDMI#Padout_IC.3F_.28HDMI_transmitter.29
(mine has the older Silicon Image Sil9132CBU transmitter btw)
 
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jim-jam bongs said:
Here's the deal, yo.

One of the biggest differences between analogue and digital signals is that, in the case of analogue signals, the signal itself can be incomplete but still contain enough information to be correctly interpreted by the receiver. This is not the case for digital information, because it's made up of on/off (1/0) information which does not in itself describe to the receiver how to actually interpret it; as such, it needs to be converted from digital information into a digital representation of analogue information then sent to the receiver.

So the reality is that you can improve analogue signals with physical alterations because they can contain small amounts of interference without dying totally, but that isn't the case at all with digital signals. I'm not sure what Mr Hubbard thinks he has done here, but you can't make the 1s and 0s bigger in a digital signal or anything like that. They are what they are.
Now you are talking "Mickey Mouse Bullshit" good GAF!
 
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rhubbard16 said:
Now you are talking "Mickey Mouse Bullshit" good GAF!
Nope he's correct.

Digital signals are immune to minor RF interference leaking into the cable. Moderately poor shielding of an HDMI cable won't make a lick of difference, because the TV or whatever is receiving the signal is looking for a bunch of 1s and 0s, and when it gets a bunch of 1.0572s and 0.1316s it's going to ignore the fractional values, so to speak. If the cable is sufficiently crappy you can start to get problems, but you're going to have to have pretty substantial interference before that happens. With analog, on the other hand, any interference whatsoever gets summed into the signal, resulting in static or hum.

The biggest difference you'll see between low and low quality HDMI cables is how long they can be and still work.
 
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FoxSpirit said:
The only way to prove your point is either posting really good pictures. Something where you can compare, not guess. Or getting comparative measurements of the HDMI eye output of the PS3 original and modified.

Talk is nothing.

Also, may I be frank? You are deluding yourself. I don't mean that in any hostile way but face it: you made audiophile adjustments to improve the output of the digital HDMI transmitter. Think about it. The ONLY thing that may have improved something is soldering the HDMI which may have suffered from a bad connection.
So far there have been 2 transmitters:
http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?title=HDMI#Padout_IC.3F_.28HDMI_transmitter.29
(mine has the older Silicon Image Sil9132CBU transmitter btw)
Audiophile adjustments hmm I think not? Leave google alone! let me enlighten you to the world of electronics today.

These useless un-yielding quality hardware you so thoughtfully refrence are assembled everyday for "Video"Blu-Ray players on a "GLOBAL" scale in every Pioneer Elite,Meridian,Sony ES, Krell,Rotel,Runco,Denon,Oppo with some of the best refrence imaging possible at 1920x1080 progressive. Oh but Im sure the 5 star ratings from passing all the absolute strictes of video test patterns are all made up from people like me. At CES all the awards recieved are all nonsense too right? Maybe on GAF, but in the real world we have some major companies making a diffrence in quality parts assembled at a proven scientific level. I started this to urge Sony to bring an elite line to SCEA they are currently engineering and producing these atttributes to their ES Blu-Ray Players at this very minute and on their website.

but YOU know more than any of these huge succesful worldwide companies RIGHT?!
(by the way there is nothing inside the Xbox worth saving or upgrading;0)
 
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rhubbard16 said:
Now you are talking "Mickey Mouse Bullshit" good GAF!
Why would you dismiss someone who has valid points with a response like this? If his points are invalid, why not simply explain how?

FoxSpirit said:
The only way to prove your point is either posting really good pictures. Something where you can compare, not guess. Or getting comparative measurements of the HDMI eye output of the PS3 original and modified.
This is correct. Without high-quality comparison shots of the video output between an unmodded PS3 and a modded PS3, how can you show any difference?

In addition, I mean no offense, but is English your first language, rhubbard16? Your posts are phrased weirdly. This combines with the lack of proof, the joking/sarcastic tone, and the occasional smiley to make your posts look exactly like those of a conspiracy theorist.

Now, if you were in fact telling the truth, then such an extraordinary claim demands more proof than vague references. Post it if you have it, but please do not keep dismissing arguments if you do not have any hard evidence that peopl can examine.
 
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Blizzard said:
Why would you dismiss someone who has valid points with a response like this? If his points are invalid, why not simply explain how?


This is correct. Without high-quality comparison shots of the video output between an unmodded PS3 and a modded PS3, how can you show any difference?

In addition, I mean no offense, but is English your first language? Your posts are phrased weirdly.
My English? You just used the word weirdly! WEIRDLY!
 
Jan 23, 2008
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rhubbard16 said:
My English? You just used the word weirdly! WEIRDLY!
Not only is "weirdly" an English word, but it is even in the Scrabble dictionary.

Not ONLY that, but you just replied to me while ignoring every single other point and question I raised, not even answering the question about English.
 
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rhubbard16 said:
Audiophile adjustments hmm I think not? Leave google alone! let me enlighten you to the world of electronics today.

These useless un-yielding quality hardware you so thoughtfully refrence are assembled everyday for "Video"Blu-Ray players on a "GLOBAL" scale in every Pioneer Elite,Meridian,Sony ES, Krell,Rotel,Runco,Denon,Oppo with some of the best refrence imaging possible at 1920x1080 progressive. Oh but Im sure the 5 star ratings from passing all the absolute strictes of video test patterns are all made up from people like me. At CES all the awards recieved are all nonsense too right? Maybe on GAF, but in the real world we have some major companies making a diffrence in quality parts assembled at a proven scientific level. I started this to urge Sony to bring an elite line to SCEA they are currently engineering and producing these atttributes to their ES Blu-Ray Players at this very minute and on their website.

but YOU know more than any of these huge succesful worldwide companies RIGHT?!
(by the way there is nothing inside the Xbox worth saving or upgrading;0)
Oh, yeah? Still waiting on a comparison.
 

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Blizzard said:
Not only is "weirdly" an English word, but it is even in the Scrabble dictionary.

Not ONLY that, but you just replied to me while ignoring every single other point and question I raised, not even answering the question about English.
You're pushing it, buddy. Keep it up and he's gonna downgrade you to fake-Gaf.
 
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rhubbard16 said:
Audiophile adjustments hmm I think not? Leave google alone! let me enlighten you to the world of electronics today.

These useless un-yielding quality hardware you so thoughtfully refrence are assembled everyday for "Video"Blu-Ray players on a "GLOBAL" scale in every Pioneer Elite,Meridian,Sony ES, Krell,Rotel,Runco,Denon,Oppo with some of the best refrence imaging possible at 1920x1080 progressive. Oh but Im sure the 5 star ratings from passing all the absolute strictes of video test patterns are all made up from people like me. At CES all the awards recieved are all nonsense too right? Maybe on GAF, but in the real world we have some major companies making a diffrence in quality parts assembled at a proven scientific level. I started this to urge Sony to bring an elite line to SCEA they are currently engineering and producing these atttributes to their ES Blu-Ray Players at this very minute and on their website.

but YOU know more than any of these huge succesful worldwide companies RIGHT?!
(by the way there is nothing inside the Xbox worth saving or upgrading;0)
how can you prove that Sony is doing this with their Blu-Ray player line? Link to an official article/documentation?
 
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In extreme conditions on a PC, a super badly maintained PC might have effect on graphics performance, there are conditions where heat and power will cause driver to throttle a few things. however you are likely to see a crash shortly after.

However on PS3, there's no such mechanism implemented, (crash still happen though ;)). There's no way draw distance and texture resolution can be affected here, not even in the case of PC.

(I work at nvidia and I worked on RSX)
 
This thread makes me so happy. I'm like, a belieber or whatever. So okay, I just cracked open my PS3 and I can see all of its like synapses or whatever... WHAT'S NEXT?!

P.S.: If this Super PS3 thing is legit, maybe there's an easier way to make the PS3 super? Like I heard from a friend that you could wrap your PS3 in a towel, leave it on for three hours, and then it got super? CONFIRM/DENY?
 
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So, let me get this straight, OP:

You think Sony is ripping consumers off since the components included in a BD player released in December of 2008 (at nearly $3K) are superior to that of a product that released in 2006, at $600?
 

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soultron said:
So, let me get this straight, OP:

You think Sony is ripping consumers off since the components included in a BD player released in December of 2008 (at nearly $3K) are superior to that of a product that released in 2006, at $600?
Inflated cost because of demand you the consumer are not demanding high quality so you pay for it since it's rare.