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Gal Gun Returns for Xbox One cancelled (due to MS censorship)

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Batiman

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Why are people comparing violence to sex in this thread? Sex isn’t the problem. It’s the minor part. Just like we don’t put killing minors in games. Kids are innocent and shouldn’t be put in sexual or violent situations. Especially in “games”
 

Woman7

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Ah, so when americans do it with actual people acting real life scenarios it's a 'fucked up fetish'.

Weird backstory hand drawn japanese animation - pedophilia.
 
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Ah, so when americans do it with actual people acting real life scenarios it's a 'fucked up fetish'.

Weird backstory hand drawn japanese animation - pedophilia.

That's not what I said at all?

Did you... read my post?
Though, you also hit the nail on the end and this is where the two sides may be talking about different things. How these *underage* characters are drawn. Basically, the difference between sexualizing that slender 14+ year old with way too developed breasts and that 200'000 year old loli that's barely bigger than an 8 year old. One of those gets awfully close into pedo territory, the other doesn't.
Unless adult porn actors suddenly have the body of kids I was agreeing with you.
 
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PC is the best/safest platform for these games, as Nintendo will likely start censoring these type of games as well, soon.
 

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A Gun is abit different to sexualised imagery of children

I would agree if this was the case here, but it's not. Most Japanese humor goes over Westerns head
, so I don't expect people to get it. This game is all about wacky, goofy, bizarre, cartoonish, humor that you will only see in Japanese media, squirting girls with water guns I believe. The worse you get to see here is maybe a girl stuck in a window that's too small wearing a skirt, in real life situation you would think to push or pull her out of the window, but if you're a 16 year old school boy hitting puberty, you may be thinking about more perverted stuff after seeing her panties, but all you get is hilarious reactions, and there's NO, repeat NO nudity, so how is this projecting pedophilia? In my opinion imagery of murdering people with a gun is just as bad, worse if children. In either case self-control is required, if you don't have self-control or have a mental or violent history, you probably shouldn't be playing games that influence you, just like you shouldn't be carrying a gun.
 
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Gal Gun is not exactly tasteful entertainment and not my cup of tea at all, but this kind of platform-holder moralizing is stupid.

I mean, it's perfectly fine to have games in your console in which the player is allowed to murder innocent civilians going about their day but God forbid America's children should ever play a game in which, what? They shoot pew pew guns at poorly modeled anime characters? Looking it up, I see the original game had a CERO rating of D in Japan: so OK for every above the age of 16, but not bad enough to warrant the adult-only Z-rating. I know next to nothing about the game but the rating seems to indicate that there's no overtly sexual content.
No overtly sexual content? Have you watched that video someone posted in here? The whole thing basically seems to be about touching the school girls to get them off lol. It’s literally all just overt sexual content, of anime school girls that look like they’re 12 years old.
 

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We've been on this slippery slope for a while now...

Soon, they'll be after COD/Battlefield/etc. And everyone will applaud them for being "So Brave" and being principled.

If no-one speaks out for the low hanging stuff, they'll take the whole tree from you.

Congrats for letting it happen!
 

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That's not what I said at all?

Did you... read my post?

Unless adult porn actors suddenly have the body of kids I was agreeing with you.

They try their hardest to make it look that way though, you have to admit.
Even worse, it's acted out by real people, objectively worse than a drawing since it gets closer to life enhancing the creepiness.
 
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Why are people comparing violence to sex in this thread? Sex isn’t the problem. It’s the minor part. Just like we don’t put killing minors in games. Kids are innocent and shouldn’t be put in sexual or violent situations. Especially in “games”
The premise of a lot of the "it's good to censor this game" crowd here is that people get too negatively influenced by what's on screen but only when it's lewd/sexy stuff like this and somehow not when it's violent games.

There's no evidence between violent games and behavior so if this bunch can present any evidence that lewd games make gamers more sexual predator like then we'd have something to talk about, other than their projections/feelings.

No human rights were violated in the creation of this game(unless proven otherwise) and the ratings board gave it a lower than "Adults Only" rating so this extra layer of censorship of MS is them being the taste police.
 
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People need to realise that this game couldn't get more further than reality. Imagine in what scenario in reality that you could possess an orgasm inducing gun shooting at high school girls? It's fake and all about fantasy, and most importantly for comedic purposes.

And it's anime. Anime is the best for fantasy shit. Most live/cgi fantasy movies or shows just sucks because it's too relatable yet looks weirdly fake or in uncanny valley territory at the same time.
 
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And it's anime. Anime is the best for fantasy shit.
It isn't though. That's like saying Bloodborne is anime just because it is Japanese. Wait...


There are games based on anime though and they are fucking terrible.
 

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It isn't though. That's like saying Bloodborne is anime just because it is Japanese. Wait...


There are games based on anime though and they are fucking terrible.
Just anime in general, not only for games, far far easier to depict a direction or imagination when it is drawn.
 

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Inti Creates should make a spiritual sequel to Operation Wolf with blood and guts everywhere, as an artistic statement just to point out the double standard when it gets accepted for publication on every store & platform.
 

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I can’t believe what I’m reading here lol. Some of you are actually saying that you think there should be allowed to be games where you could for example kidnap and rape pre-pubescent girls, or perform sex acts on pre-pubescent kids, because “it’s just a game” and “all censorship is bad!”.

There’s a difference between not allowing a developer to have you take pills to regain health, and not allowing a developer to let you have sex with a 12 year old girl. If you can’t see that then you need help.
 

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I can’t believe what I’m reading here lol. Some of you are actually saying that you think there should be allowed to be games where you could for example kidnap and rape pre-pubescent girls, or perform sex acts on pre-pubescent kids, because “it’s just a game” and “all censorship is bad!”.

There’s a difference between not allowing a developer to have you take pills to regain health, and not allowing a developer to let you have sex with a 12 year old girl. If you can’t see that then you need help.

Those games would never be allowed to be sold in North America because laws exist that prevent such content from being distributed.

In Canada if you get caught importing any kind of anime, manga or video games that explicitly depict children in sexual acts you'll get charged with child pornography.
 
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I can’t believe what I’m reading here lol. Some of you are actually saying that you think there should be allowed to be games where you could for example kidnap and rape pre-pubescent girls, or perform sex acts on pre-pubescent kids, because “it’s just a game” and “all censorship is bad!”.

There’s a difference between not allowing a developer to have you take pills to regain health, and not allowing a developer to let you have sex with a 12 year old girl. If you can’t see that then you need help.
Nothing what you said is relevant to the game in question, so what's the point of this off topic post?
 

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We've been on this slippery slope for a while now...

Soon, they'll be after COD/Battlefield/etc. And everyone will applaud them for being "So Brave" and being principled.

If no-one speaks out for the low hanging stuff, they'll take the whole tree from you.

Congrats for letting it happen!
Once they start going after COD that's when the true shitstorm begins. It's only when there's a normie civil war will get to the point of allowing videogames to be videogames again.
 

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Some of you are actually saying that you think there should be allowed to be games where you could for example kidnap and rape pre-pubescent girls, or perform sex acts on pre-pubescent kids, because “it’s just a game” and “all censorship is bad!”.
This way of thinking if you dont like a thing, it means you like it's entire opposite is bullshit.
No one has ever said or intended it's right to have games that promote sexual crimes.
 

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Game looks embarrassing and I’d judge anyone who enjoys playing it to be fair. Either play a proper shooter, or watch proper porn, why conflate the two?

These kind of games are just creepy wish fulfilment for oddballs who are sexually attracted pre-pubescent cartoon characters.

*shrugs*
 

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Those games would never be allowed to be sold in North America because laws exist that prevent such content from being distributed.

In Canada if you get caught importing any kind of anime, manga or video games that explicitly depict children in sexual acts you'll get charged with child pornography.
They are allowed to be sold. There are japanese porn game retailers with english storefronts that sell some very fucked up shit. And it's legal to sell. Question to you: why do you think it should be illegal to sell them? Because they're icky?
 
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Game looks embarrassing and I’d judge anyone who enjoys playing it to be fair. Either play a proper shooter, or watch proper porn, why conflate the two?

These kind of games are just creepy wish fulfilment for oddballs who are sexually attracted pre-pubescent cartoon characters.

*shrugs*
If no laws are being broken, why remove the option? If you don't like it, don't play it. It's quite simple as that.
 
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Looks like it's made for pedos. I don't like censorship but a game made for pedos to get off doesnt need to exist. People are defending this shit lol. Way too many of you too...
Only that it is not. And if you don't like it, then don't play it. The fact that you're rather obsessed of the intentions behind consumers who are interested in the game is honestly creepier.
 

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Question to all of you people who say this game is pedobait:

Should tv shows/competitions about highschool cheerleading or dance or gymnastics be banned? Because that is "sexualizing minors" - hell, they do some very provocative routines, way more sexualized than this game. Is that pedobaiting?
 
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Woman7

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Looks like it's made for pedos. I don't like censorship but a game made for pedos to get off doesnt need to exist. People are defending this shit lol. Way too many of you too...

Just a reminder, just judging from your avatar people with your sexual preference where seen as no more than pedophiles not too long ago in your country.
We would have the same argument right now about Devil May Cry or WWE whatever and how it's a game made for sodomites and how they don't need to exist because of their gayness.
 

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They are kids in sexual outfits doing nothing else then be sexual that some grown ups are playing. What fucked up adult wants to watch this shit unless you are a pedo. Its fucking disgusting.

The fact u guys try to defend this with all your dumb ass logic already says enough about your mental state.

Phill should ban them all straight up, imagine the backslash he will get when the average consumer figures out this shit is published on there platform. Its fucking GG with there product for kids in any society.
 

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Just a reminder, just judging from your avatar people with your sexual preference where seen as no more than pedophiles not too long ago in your country.
We would have the same argument right now about Devil May Cry or WWE whatever and how it's a game made for sodomites and how they don't need to exist because of their gayness.

Lol, that is me. I use it to motivate gamers to hit the gym. I'm married to a woman. Thanks. Also, your post seems to be in defense of pedophilia. Holy shit
 
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puffzor

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They are kids in sexual outfits doing nothing else then be sexual that some grown ups are playing. What fucked up adult wants to watch this shit unless you are a pedo. Its fucking disgusting.

The fact u guys try to defend this with all your dumb ass logic already says enough about your mental state.

Phill should ban them all straight up, imagine the backslash he will get when the average consumer figures out this shit is published on there platform. Its fucking GG with there product for kids in any society.
What do you mean "sexual outfits"? I didn't watch too much of the trailer but aren't they in school uniforms?
 

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Don't watch at work lol.

It's pretty damn cringe, but no more cringe than three lowlifes robbing, killing, and running people over with cars in a fake American west coast city. 🤔

What the fuck am I watching?! How fucking desperate do you have to get to play this? I'm not sure this is worse than Life of Black Tiger though, so, as long as there's nothing illegal...I'd say let the weirdo perverts that enjoy this shit have their game. I'd ask to let us know where these pervs in return to avoid those areas, but they probably never leave their rooms that have a dried cum mixed with cheetos smell anyway. :p

Edit: Wait, wait, I guess I was naive and thought these were supposed to be senior high schoolers...are they supposed to be 14? If so, WTF...yeah, ban this shit. Otherwise, can someone clarify?
 
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Game looks embarrassing and I’d judge anyone who enjoys playing it to be fair. Either play a proper shooter, or watch proper porn, why conflate the two?

These kind of games are just creepy wish fulfilment for oddballs who are sexually attracted pre-pubescent cartoon characters.

*shrugs*
This is the slippery slope I mentioned above...

Take just part of your statement:

"These kind of games are just creepy wish fulfilment for oddballs"

This kind of statement is basically what was used against FPSs back in the day. Before studies were done.

I'm unsure if any studies have been done on the Gals series of games, or the genre at all. (If someone has a link to one, could you please add it?)

Basically, what's worse?

A) Shooting an "of age" NPC with a "Fictional love gun", hearing them moan and groan and then collapse.

B) Shooting an "of age" NPC with a "Realistic Simulation of an existing firearm", watching their head explode from a headshot and then collapse.

Is there a difference between the two? (* Note the "of age" of the question - These games ARE legal, not CP *)

What does our feeling that there is a difference say about us as gamers, us as a society and simply about ourselves?

If you are offended by one, you should be offended by the other.

If your not offended by one, you shouldn't be offended by the other.

Everyone should be very afraid that false equivalencies aren't put in place and everything gets lost in the "Puritanical Purge" that is taking place - Because it will come simply because no-one stands up against it because "It doesn't affect me".
 
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They are allowed to be sold. There are japanese porn game retailers with english storefronts that sell some very fucked up shit. And it's legal to sell. Question to you: why do you think it should be illegal to sell them? Because they're icky?

An English translated Japanese web store doesn't magically make it legal to own in North America. Get caught buying that shit and you'll end up in jail on child porn charges. What's legal in Japan is an entirely different conversation.

Icky? its illegal to sell in North America because its classified as child porn. I'm not sure what kind of answer ur looking for here.
 
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Lol, that is me. I use it to motivate gamers to hit the gym. I'm married to a woman. Thanks. Also, your post seems to be in defense of pedophilia. Holy shit

Oh definitely not defending pedophilia. What I do try is to be rational about things and apply standards fairly and equally.

Also hope you're done with befriending actual sexual predators...holy shit.
 
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I had a friend who'd defend this shit. He's still in prison for having sex with a 3 year old.
A occurred, then B occurred.
Therefore, A caused B.

A = "I had a friend who'd defend this shit."
B = "He's in prison for having sex with a 3 year old."
Therefore, defending this 'shit' will lead to going to prison for having sex with underage children.

 
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Oh definitely not defending pedophilia. What I do try is to be rational about things and apply standards fairly and equally.

Also hope you're done with befriending actual sexual predators...holy shit.

He was, what we thought, a normal gamer. We played D&D in a group, he loved Playstation growing up. The only thing that made him different was his love of anime. Stay safe mayne
 
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puffzor

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An English translated Japanese web store doesn't magically make it legal to own in North America. Get caught buying that shit and you'll end up in jail on child porn charges. What's legal in Japan is an entirely different conversation.

Icky? its illegal to sell in North America because its classified as child porn. I'm not sure what kind of answer ur looking for here.
Wrong. This game is not classified as child porn. I don't know where you got your info wrong but it's highly incorrect.



There was a specific hentai game (very controversial) mentioned in that supreme court decision. It remains legal to buy and sell in the US.
 

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Just a reminder, just judging from your avatar people with your sexual preference where seen as no more than pedophiles not too long ago in your country.
We would have the same argument right now about Devil May Cry or WWE whatever and how it's a game made for sodomites and how they don't need to exist because of their gayness.

Is this the "pedophilia = homosexuality" defence? That's disgusting.
 

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What do you mean "sexual outfits"? I didn't watch too much of the trailer but aren't they in school uniforms?


Tentacle porn



????



Another porn reference.



"just school girls guys"





Here you got your demography.


We in the west do not want to see kids in sexual display like this even remotely.

Go print this shit out and showcase parents of young kids if they find nothing wrong with those pictures. They will probably call the cops on you already.
 
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We in the west do not want to see kids in sexual display like this even remotely.
Good thing that they are:
  1. Not real people.
  2. Not in realistic proportions.
  3. The content (e.g. tentacles) is not even realistic.
  4. Voiced by adults.
in contrast to something like Cuties where:
  1. The characters in the movie were chronologically underaged.
  2. Those characters were doing very sexualized actions in front of adults.
  3. The actresses who played those characters are also underage.
 

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Is this the "pedophilia = homosexuality" defence? That's disgusting.

No. My intention was to point to the train of thought 'this makes me feel like; thus it must be this; ban it'. Which is used in many cases. Homosexuality is the most striking example of recent times I think.

There are laws in place, if they aren't strict enough we can change them. There are lots of things that offend me and I don't want to engage with. Banning/Prohibition is a severe measure that should be handled responsibly and reasonably.
 

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Tentacle porn



????



Another porn reference.



"just school girls guys"




Those girls don't really look underage though? Meanwhile pedobait like Piper Perri is totally legal lol.


Here you got your demography.


We in the west do not want to see kids in sexual display like this even remotely.

Go print this shit out and showcase parents of young kids if they find nothing wrong with those pictures. They will probably call the cops on you already.

Should I know who this person is?
 
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