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Gal Gun Returns for Xbox One cancelled (due to MS censorship)

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Yeah, and killing people in most games is inherently murderous, realistic and violent gore.

But they are just games man, and one can choose if they want to play them or not.

I won't play this Gal Gun tho, I'll keep playing my weeby JRPGs and my violent western action games, but rest asured, I won't be saving the world nor killing any pedestrians any time soon.
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I found the study referenced. Gonna give it a read.
So I read it. If anyone's curious here's the link.



Basically it was a bunch of hypothesizing and no real data.

Oh well.
 
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So I read it. If anyone's curious here's the link.



Basically it was a bunch of hypothesizing and no real data.

Oh well.
The Australian government can go fuck itself for all I care.

Bunch of retarded prudes who love to arrest everyone for anything.
 
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You can keep the silly definitions that you just learnt in your english class, I'm just putting the scenario you described and are using to defend this content to the test. Fine, instead of 3 year old, let's say a 3D or 2D animation of a 11 year old getting [groped] (if there was actual rape, then the ratings board would've given the game an AO rating and it would not even be released on the Switch) by a tentacle monster could fit the bullet points you just posted. It seems you'd be totally ok with this given your argument.

Do you enjoy this type of content? It goes beyond just your typical "sex fantasy fulfilment for a loser animu pervert" content, this is a game where you straight up give orgasms to 13 year old looking girls. That's content for pedophiles buddy.
No, you fix your arguments so that (1) the question is not based on a false presupposition and (2) is poisoning the well. These are fallacies for a reason, so consider your question to be 100% fallacious. Whatever I enjoy the type of content also does not address the topic at hand. This is an obvious ad hominem bait that I will not bite on.

Come back when you can actually pose a good faith argument. Funny that now you care when this thread is about a remaster of a 9 year old game. If you want to make an actual point, find a peer reviewed study where Gal Gun has actually incited or called for sexual abuse of minors. There's theoretically 9 years' worth of data by now, so chop chop.
 
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I mean it would be a serious problem if sex dolls did escalate a person's likelihood of going out and diddling a kid. Problem is, there isn't any evidence of that. It's the same logic being used against violent video games (desensitizes you, blahblahblah)
 
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I mean it would be a serious problem if sex dolls did escalate a person's likelihood of going out and diddling a kid. Problem is, there isn't any evidence of that. It's the same logic being used against violent video games (desensitizes you, blahblahblah)
And O-N-E O-N-E had the audacity to smear you like that, smh.

Spy x Family out now!
 
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So I read it. If anyone's curious here's the link.



Basically it was a bunch of hypothesizing and no real data.

Oh well.
The fact that this "study" doesn't even have a control group to actually test the hypothesis is laughable.
 

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So I read it. If anyone's curious here's the link.



Basically it was a bunch of hypothesizing and no real data.

Oh well.

What a coincidence, just like the hypothesizing of this game causing pedophilia!
 
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What a coincidence, just like the hypothesizing of this game causing pedophilia!
What's funny behind all of this moral grandstanding is that Gal Gun Returns is a remaster of the original that came out on the Xbox 360 back in 2011 and then, on the PS3 a year later (albeit Japan only). The sequel, Gal Gun: Double Peace came out on the PS4/Vita in 2015 (in JP) and 2016 (in US & EU). Funny how there wasn't much "muh pedophilia" whining back then. And then, Gal Gun 2 came out in 2018.

So there has been theoretically 9 years' worth of data and 3 games, so... where's this uptick in pedophilia? Anyone? Anyone?
 
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It's really funny to see people comparing this cringy video game to illegal material.

Before you make yourself look more ridiculous than you already are, you should perhaps notice the fact that this game is absolutely coming out worldwide for Nintendo Switch and PC. Nothing here is illegal, so your argument doesn't have an inch of ground to stand on.

Now do feel free to continue sounding like ridiculous virtue-signaling prudes supporting censorship, whatever good that does you.

I guess with the recent waves of knee-jerk bans, we got more refugees from the purple forums nowadays.
 
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It's really funny to see people comparing this cringy video game to illegal material.

Before you make yourself look more ridiculous than you already are, you should perhaps notice the fact that this game is absolutely coming out worldwide for Nintendo Switch and PC. Nothing here is illegal, so your argument doesn't have an inch of ground to stand on.

Now do feel free to continue sounding like ridiculous virtue-signaling prudes supporting censorship, whatever good that does you.

I guess with the recent waves of knee-jerk bans, we got more refugees from the purple forums nowadays.
It's a mixture of reetards and boomers who hate anything that's Japanese for some reason.
 

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What's funny behind all of this moral fagging is that Gal Gun Returns is a remaster of the original that came out on the Xbox 360 back in 2011 and then, on the PS3 a year later (albeit Japan only). The sequel, Gal Gun: Double Peace came out on the PS4/Vita in 2015 (in JP) and 2016 (in US & EU). Funny how there wasn't much "muh pedophilia" whining back then. And then, Gal Gun 2 came out in 2018.

So there has been theoretically 9 years' worth of data and 3 games, so... where's this uptick in pedophilia? Anyone? Anyone?
So you’re saying what, that the number of pedophilia, underage sexual assault, etc etc crimes have all gone down in the last 9 years? Is that it? What sources are you referencing? How much did they go down? What were they like before and after the games release in Japan? EU?

This is the first I’ve heard of this game, because I don’t pay attention to these kiddy fiddling games. If I had of know about it 9 years ago I’d have said the same thing. You’re making a whole lot of assumptions that are ridiculous.
 
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So you’re saying what, that the number of pedophilia, underage sexual assault, etc etc crimes have all gone down in the last 9 years? Is that it? What sources are you referencing? How much did they go down? What were they like before and after the games release in Japan? EU?

This is the first I’ve heard of this game, because I don’t pay attention to these kiddy fiddling games. If I had of know about it 9 years ago I’d have said the same thing. You’re making a whole lot of assumptions that are ridiculous.
His argument is very sound and shows how superficial people's "moral outrages" really are.

Just admit that you lost this argument and move on with your life. It's a stupid weeb game that's harmless.
 

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So you’re saying what, that the number of pedophilia, underage sexual assault, etc etc crimes have all gone down in the last 9 years? Is that it? What sources are you referencing? How much did they go down? What were they like before and after the games release in Japan? EU?

This is the first I’ve heard of this game, because I don’t pay attention to these kiddy fiddling games. If I had of know about it 9 years ago I’d have said the same thing. You’re making a whole lot of assumptions that are ridiculous.

Funny you demand data, but you don't provide data. Where's the proof this game causes pedophilia?

I can find data from games like GTA5, but nothing on Gal Gun.

Edit: The fact this is the first you heard of this game even though its been out for 9 years, is telling of how harmless it is. If it wasn't, you'd hear it all over the news.
 
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Description for the first game on Steam:
When Houdai is shot by cupid angel Ekoro, he becomes immensely popular and suddenly every girl at the academy becomes hot for him. But being irresistible is hardly a dream come true! Every love letter, shout of adulation, and advancing kisses drains his energy! And worse - if he doesn't find his one true love by the end of the day, he will become cursed and forever alone!

•Gorgeous anime-styled rail-shooter action. Use your targeting cursor to fend off the advancing girls!
•Story Mode: Play through the story and see if you can successfully confess your feelings to the girl of your dreams.
•Score Attack: Play specific levels to achieve the highest scores.
•Collection: Take a look at your achievements, image gallery and information on all the lovely ladies at the Academy!
•Choose your own love interest. Your choices will change the story and the path you take throughout the game.

It's a House of the Dead game except the zombies are academy girls and you have to shoot them to stop coming at you. Please be open minded for once, and understand what type of game this is. The fact that some people are easily triggered by this content means they're highly aware of probably rampant pedophilia acts surrounding them.
 
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It's a House of the Dead game except the zombies are academy girls and you have to shoot them to stop coming at you. Please be open minded for once, and understand what type of game this is. The fact that some people are easily triggered by this content means they're highly aware of probably rampant pedophilia acts surrounding them.
They always seem to leave out the fact that the playable protagonist is of the same age as the girls.

Stupid boomers, man.
 
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So you’re saying what, that the number of pedophilia, underage sexual assault, etc etc crimes have all gone down in the last 9 years? Is that it? What sources are you referencing? How much did they go down? What were they like before and after the games release in Japan? EU?

This is the first I’ve heard of this game, because I don’t pay attention to these kiddy fiddling games. If I had of know about it 9 years ago I’d have said the same thing. You’re making a whole lot of assumptions that are ridiculous.
Hmm, I don't recall ever making that claim, but I've seen multiple people claiming that games like Gal Gun cause a rise in pedophilia. So, where's the data that shows that the Gal Gun series causes a rise in pedophilia? Got a longitudinal study? What's the control group and experimental group? How was data collected?

Funny that you say that this is the first time you have heard of this game. So after 9 years and 3 games, it wasn't until now that you're so "worried" about pedophilia. It just goes to show how much the Gal Gun series does not cause pedophilia as pedophilia is a very serious crime.

Do you know what pedophilia news did make some noise? Amos Yee getting arrested in October under allegation of possessing child pornography and grooming a minor. That person has, on record, advocated for pedophilia and argued that minors can consent to sex. That is a legitimate alarm bell whereas something like Gal Gun has proved over 9 years that it is innocuous.
 
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Hmm, I don't recall ever making that claim, but I've seen multiple people claiming that games like Gal Gun cause a rise in pedophilia. So, where's the data that shows that the Gal Gun series causes a rise in pedophilia? Got a longitudinal study? What's the control group and experimental group? How was data collected?

Funny that you say that this is the first time you have heard of this game. So after 9 years and 3 games, it wasn't until now that you're so "worried" about pedophilia. It just goes to show how much the Gal Gun series does not cause pedophilia as pedophilia is a very serious crime.

Do you know what pedophilia news did make some noise? Amos Yee getting arrested in October under allegation of possessing child pornography and grooming a minor. That person has, on record, advocated for pedophilia and argued that minors can consent to sex. That is a legitimate alarm bell whereas something like Gal Gun has proved over 9 years that it is innocuous.
Don't waste your time with him.

He's just defending Microsoft on the low.
 

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Hmm, I don't recall ever making that claim, but I've seen multiple people claiming that games like Gal Gun cause a rise in pedophilia. So, where's the data that shows that the Gal Gun series causes a rise in pedophilia? Got a longitudinal study? What's the control group and experimental group? How was data collected?

Funny that you say that this is the first time you have heard of this game. So after 9 years and 3 games, it wasn't until now that you're so "worried" about pedophilia. It just goes to show how much the Gal Gun series does not cause pedophilia as pedophilia is a very serious crime.

Do you know what pedophilia news did make some noise? Amos Yee getting arrested in October under allegation of possessing child pornography and grooming a minor. That person has, on record, advocated for pedophilia and argued that minors can consent to sex. That is a legitimate alarm bell whereas something like Gal Gun has proved over 9 years that it is innocuous.
I haven’t claimed that it causes a rise in pedophilia though, so maybe go after the people that are saying that hey? I’m saying that it’s a game that appeals to pedophiles and the like because it’s about essentially sexually assaulting school age children.

It’s hilarious that you guys think that the fact that these games haven’t been a “problem” before because people weren’t aware of them means that it’s fine and all an act lol. One of the worst arguments you can possibly make.

can you or one of the other defenders of this game just answer me these questions please?

How is a game where you perve on school kids aged 16 years old and perform acts to sexually pleasure them to bring them to orgasm **not** an explicitly sexual game? How is performing sexual acts on school aged children not disgusting to you?
 
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I think you’ll find that not all kiddy fiddlers have the exact same likes and dislikes in kids.
Well then it seems you're just making up your own definitions as you go to strengthen your argument.
The only definition for pedo is before puberty or in other words, specifically, the lack of secondary sexual traits like, you know, those "double Fs".
 

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Well then it seems you're just making up your own definitions as you go to strengthen your argument.
The only definition for pedo is before puberty or in other words, specifically, the lack of secondary sexual traits like, you know, those "double Fs".
Ok so what do you call someone that’s 50 and fantasises about 13 year olds that have hit puberty? If you don’t want to call them pedos then fine, whatever the definition is for them. This game appeals to them too.

Never thought I’d have this argument with a real person lol. “Nah I’m not a pedo because I like 13 year olds and they’ve hit puberty” ffs lol. (Not saying you’re a pedo btw, just that’s essentially what’s now being argued).
 
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Nice try at avoiding the question, but no. If you’re attracted to kids you’re a pedo. I don’t care if that definition is with or without boobs. No goal post moving here, just some dodging by you.

Answer the question.

Is a 50 year old that is sexually attracted to 13 year olds that have hit puberty any better than a 50 year old that is sexually attracted to 13 year olds that haven’t hit puberty?
 
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I don’t care if that definition is with or without boobs.
Well, you kinda should, cause that's how science and laws define it, your own personal definitions are completely irrelevant, and also wrong.
No goal post moving here
First they were 16 year olds, then 12 year olds with "double F's", now they are 13 year olds with none to negligible secondary sexual traits ("just" hit puberty), and also somehow some 50 year old is involved.
Could you tell me some more about this 50 year old? Like his hobbies, do they post on gaf or era?

You're just shifting your hypotheticals around to keep your argument sound like a good one.
 

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Well, you kinda should, cause that's how science and laws define it, your own personal definitions are completely irrelevant, and also wrong.

First they were 16 year olds, then 12 year olds with "double F's", now they are 13 year olds with none to negligible secondary sexual traits ("just" hit puberty), and also somehow some 50 year old is involved.
Could you tell me some more about this 50 year old? Like his hobbies, do they post on gaf or era?

You're just shifting your hypotheticals around to keep your argument sound like a good one.
Wow, you really have no idea how to have a conversation/debate with anyone do you?

You can replace any of the ages of the people that are playing these games with any other age > 18, it doesn’t matter. The girls are supposedly 16-18 in the game, but as is tradition with this style of anime, they all look much younger than that.

Can you answer the question or are you going to do more dodging?
 
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Is a 50 year old that is sexually attracted to 13 year olds that have hit puberty any better than a 50 year old that is sexually attracted to 13 year olds that haven’t hit puberty?


People like what you don't like. As long as they're not actually committing crimes against real people, why do you think you should be able to tell them how to live? Are you afraid that if you play this game it's going to turn you/them into a pedo? Then don't play it, simple as that. Incest is illegal yet incest fantasy porn is all over the place. Legally. Get a fucking grip.
 

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People like what you don't like. As long as they're not actually committing crimes against real people, why do you think you should be able to tell them how to live? Are you afraid that if you play this game it's going to turn you/them into a pedo? Then don't play it, simple as that. Incest is illegal yet incest fantasy porn is all over the place. Legally. Get a fucking grip.
Releasing and selling games like this should be a crime. Buying these games should be a crime. They are literally all about sexually assaulting underage children.

I guess you also don’t think that homophobia or racism is wrong then either, as long as it’s not breaking any laws?
 

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Releasing and selling games like this should be a crime. Buying these games should be a crime. They are literally all about sexually assaulting underage children.

I guess you also don’t think that homophobia or racism is wrong then either, as long as it’s not breaking any laws?
It's really fucking ironic that your argument was the precise ones that used to criminalize interracial marriages and homosexual marriages. "I don't like it/it's anathema to me, therefore it should be banned" - again, show me what person is harmed and I'll happily agree. And no, you being triggered isn't harm.
 
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Funny you demand data, but you don't provide data. Where's the proof this game causes pedophilia?
Based by what I read, usually another way around:
1. UN staff/head of child protection division - Pedo scandal
2. Old site Gaff SJW Mod - Pedo Scandal
3. Reee Mod, Staff and founder - Pedo Scandal
4. Evo "core values" head - Pedo Scandal
5. etc

And I never see news about some Anime high school pervert weebs/otakus got arrested for Pedo.
Really make me wonder you know, that person who signaling their virtue usually have skeleton in the closet.

It's really fucking ironic that your argument was the precise ones that used to criminalize interracial marriages and homosexual marriages. "I don't like it/it's anathema to me, therefore it should be banned" - again, show me what person is harmed and I'll happily agree. And no, you being triggered isn't harm.
Thoughtcrime
 
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One of the main defences I’m reading in here seems to be “they’re of age so it’s cool.”

They might have declared on some document somewhere that they’re over 18 to tick a legal box but come on now, they’re clearly portrayed as very childlike in appearance with the high pitched voices and saucer eyes. And the central conceit seems to be to take advantage of their easily led naïveté and impress them with your love gun?

The mind boggles if you can’t recognise how troublesome that is.

And yes, I recognise how shooters have helped normalise violence which isn’t a good thing either.
If no laws are being broken, why remove the option? If you don't like it, don't play it. It's quite simple as that.
I’m not suggesting it should be outlawed, I’m just pointing out how weird and creepy the appeal seems to be to someone who’s not into this kind of thing.

If someone caught me playing this I’d be fucking mortified.
 

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It's really fucking ironic that your argument was the precise ones that used to criminalize interracial marriages and homosexual marriages. "I don't like it/it's anathema to me, therefore it should be banned" - again, show me what person is harmed and I'll happily agree. And no, you being triggered isn't harm.
So being disgusted by sexualising and sexually pleasuring minors, school kids in fact, is the same as “not liking something”? Hahahahahahahahahaha
 

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Tentacle porn



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Another porn reference.



"just school girls guys"





Here you got your demography.


We in the west do not want to see kids in sexual display like this even remotely.

Go print this shit out and showcase parents of young kids if they find nothing wrong with those pictures. They will probably call the cops on you already.
One of the characters has a dummy in that is absolutely weird as fuck especially the tentacle stuff how can people not see that this enables perverts?
 
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