hemo memo
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Even 4 hours for 40$ is ridiculous.
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Game Informer played through MGS Ground Zeroes' main mission in [1.5hrs, not rushing]
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Even 4 hours for 40$ is ridiculous.
AHA-Lambda
Member
I actually don't believe that, I really can't believe that D:
That was about 4 hours ago!
Vanished into thin air it appears;p
The first tidbit was already mentioned as being from the article. The other...same article, but still not reported?
Graphics Horse
Member
10 minute opening Cutscene.
Run to Paz or Chico
Cutscene
Take Paz or Chico to helicopter
Cutscene
Run to Chico or Paz
Cutscene
Take Chico or Paz to helicopter
1 hr ending cutscene.
Probably.
They are really asking $20-$30. This game was clearly made with digital in mind. Fans are the ones who wanted a physical release.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
If this information becomes public knowledge, then I'd say you'd not be the only one.
Yeah it is taking the piss a bit, but I could have lived with it. Got the physical copy pre-ordered for the PS4 via gamestop's UK site for 30 quid.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
That was 2 hours ago!
It's going to do more harm than good. So many of these things are going to get returned.
WrenchNinja
Member
Now I REALLY hope this bombs. What a joke.
AHA-Lambda
Member
oh god please, I understand what you're saying but even as a Metal gear fan (i'm tempted don't get me wrong I love MGS) but that's shocking. Some people here I think really need to be more critical of what they spend their money on.
OP was updated , GI told kotaku they finished it in 2
Let's say that I found 5-6 other people who were willing to pay me $5 to play Ground Zeroes, and I collected them money from them.
Let's say that I were start a brand new PSN or Xbox Live account, and use that accumulated money to purchase Ground Zeroes. Let's say that I share the login and password for the PSN/XBL account with the people that gave me money. Each person agrees that they will only play the game on a particular day of the week, so no two people are simultaneously trying to login to the same PSN/XBL account.
This is theoretically possible on both PS4 and Xbox One, right? Games can be shared on any console, so long as the owner's account is logged in, right? It'd be too ridiculous to manage that amongst a group of people for real games, but for a 2-hour demo that's pretty much disposable I don't see why not.
Let's say that I were start a brand new PSN or Xbox Live account, and use that accumulated money to purchase Ground Zeroes. Let's say that I share the login and password for the PSN/XBL account with the people that gave me money. Each person agrees that they will only play the game on a particular day of the week, so no two people are simultaneously trying to login to the same PSN/XBL account.
This is theoretically possible on both PS4 and Xbox One, right? Games can be shared on any console, so long as the owner's account is logged in, right? It'd be too ridiculous to manage that amongst a group of people for real games, but for a 2-hour demo that's pretty much disposable I don't see why not.
TPP sounds like a very expensive game to develop. I guess that's why Konami is doing this kickstarter.
doctorblurg
Banned
I dont even have game informer anymore and without this thread I probably would've never found out about this. My money is really tight right now and unless more details come out that give some more meat to this game I'm going to have to back out.
AHA-Lambda
Member
You're taking the piss! Konami want to put out DLC for THIS?!?!
twisteddeeds
Member
Won't matter to them if the "game/demo" still sells at launch... more likely it'll bomb on week 2 or 3...
Gamefly it is, thanks Game Informer! I tend to just play main story and rarely like never play to 100% completion of side quests etc. I wondered why it was so cheap guess this explains it. Kinda like how Rayman Legends is releasing for $40 and still $60 on last gen consoles at most retailers.
Mitochondrion
Member
Where did you get it for £25? PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 cost around that much.
Napalm_Frank
Member
I for one am glad they cut content to be able to offer console exclusive missions. Better be careful not to overdeliver dat value.
Will buy when 20 or less.
Will buy when 20 or less.
Rogue Agent
Banned
In that article, it states that Kojima told them that PS4 version looks slightly better, but they themselves could tell that was the case. It's on the 3rd-to-last page of the Ground Zeroes section (last line).
Maybe they might be free? If that's the case then it might justify the price.
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Diggeh
Unconfirmed Member
It was only a matter of time before the Kojima quirkiness went too far for even gamers to handle. $40 for such a short experience? Might as well replay MGS2 and wait for V.
Love Deterrence
Member
You see, this is a very reasonable viewpoint. Is it really necessary to label anyone who spends money on this? I'm spending my money on it, because I know I will get my money's worth. With each entry in the franchise, I've logged in hundreds upon hundreds of hours. I don't see that changing with Ground Zeroes, despite its short story. Side missions are where I've always spent most of my time in series; again, don't see that changing with Ground Zeroes.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
Well, whaddya know, those of us who can analyze what's shown to us and make rational, informed assumptions free of fanboy-fueled self-delusion turned out to be right.
Pathetic practise from Kojima and Konami.
Pathetic practise from Kojima and Konami.
TwoDurans
"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
Why would one news organization tell another something like this? I'm calling BS on Kotaku until I read the GI article.
MiamiWesker
Member
Very interesting Kojima interview in the issue. Basically talks about how he got into gaming and how he is stuck being the Metal Gear guy. He claims he does not want to be known as that man, he claims he doesnt have much time left cause he is 50 so he wants to write a list of all he wants to do before he dies and make sure he does it which includes writing a novel and making a movie.
He claims he likes simple stories, ironically. He said he always tries to make a simple story. He says he wont let series canon hinder him from telling the story he wants so if he has to contradict a few things he will.
There was a comparison of him and James Cameron with Aliens where that franchise was handed off after Alien and it was successful. Kojima said his situation is more like Terminator where if he left it would become a mess. He claims he has had no success in passing the torch which implies he has tried. There is a lot about Japanese culture and how he doesn't relate to any Japanese developers anymore except Platinum Games.
What I found most interesting is his talk about GTA and Konami. Remember that GTA tweet about how amazing an open world it was and how he was jealous. Well he says he is jealous of Rockstar that they are able to pump all their resources into making the game they desire. He says he can't do that, he still needs to work with Konami and partner on different projects and make sure things are balanced for Konami as a whole.
He says he just got into Breaking Bad and he is pissed cause he wasnt the one to come up with that story, he wants to tell that kind of story. He says if he pitched a story like that to Konami they would probably say no. He also loved Gravity, loved how simple it was and he says trying to create a game that simple would be hard with Konami. He says that movie really impacted him, making something out of the ordinary a big success and is jealous of it as a creator, says it stirred something in him.
He talks about how he is close friends with Guillermo Del Toro, says he would like to work with him one day.
He claims he likes simple stories, ironically. He said he always tries to make a simple story. He says he wont let series canon hinder him from telling the story he wants so if he has to contradict a few things he will.
There was a comparison of him and James Cameron with Aliens where that franchise was handed off after Alien and it was successful. Kojima said his situation is more like Terminator where if he left it would become a mess. He claims he has had no success in passing the torch which implies he has tried. There is a lot about Japanese culture and how he doesn't relate to any Japanese developers anymore except Platinum Games.
What I found most interesting is his talk about GTA and Konami. Remember that GTA tweet about how amazing an open world it was and how he was jealous. Well he says he is jealous of Rockstar that they are able to pump all their resources into making the game they desire. He says he can't do that, he still needs to work with Konami and partner on different projects and make sure things are balanced for Konami as a whole.
He says he just got into Breaking Bad and he is pissed cause he wasnt the one to come up with that story, he wants to tell that kind of story. He says if he pitched a story like that to Konami they would probably say no. He also loved Gravity, loved how simple it was and he says trying to create a game that simple would be hard with Konami. He says that movie really impacted him, making something out of the ordinary a big success and is jealous of it as a creator, says it stirred something in him.
He talks about how he is close friends with Guillermo Del Toro, says he would like to work with him one day.
NullPointer
Member
At these rates I can't afford 4 hours.
Phire Phox
Banned
Waiting for under 10. Fuck paying 40 for 2-4 hr experience.
Kotaku is quoting the magazine.
Well if GI is reporting 2 hours... then the average game playing time could be 3 1/2.
Nobody rushes through games like reviewers. Nobody believes playtime count from Devs.
I think alot of gamers aside from the core enthusiasts play at a very moderate pace when it comes to playtime completion. However, I expect alot of people finishing this one right when they were getting in the groove...
Nobody rushes through games like reviewers. Nobody believes playtime count from Devs.
I think alot of gamers aside from the core enthusiasts play at a very moderate pace when it comes to playtime completion. However, I expect alot of people finishing this one right when they were getting in the groove...
Common sense usually ends up being pretty reliable in these situations. I remember the same thing back in 2003 when the first MGS3 trailer came out. Kojima made it obvious that it was set in the 60s. New era. People still insisted that the player character was Solid Snake. People will believe what they want to believe.
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
Holy shit. $40 for two hours of content? That's Hideo(us).
I'll see myself out.
I'll see myself out.
so basically, konami has got him locked in the basement churning out metal gear games? just as we suspected really, tis a shame but not surprising considering the current state of konami.