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They did what I asked! Now they just need to replace Jon completely lol.
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They did what I asked! Now they just need to replace Jon completely lol.
darkwing-buck
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Haven't seen a battle that intense and brutal since saving private ryan..
cool the same director as that awesome battle in season 5 directing next weeks ep as well.
lol I guess I just dont know how to use it lol Kappa
use the same program...i got the most recent updated one too... I used 23 fps using 24 looked to fast guess I'll play with it alittle more.
Oh okay, yeah I just recorded a 720p YouTube video right off the page, not fullscreen or anything. Set it to 24 fps to record (when I'm doing movies/TV gifs anyways, otherwise 30 for games), trim and resize, and use quantize when I save it.
Still on a high from this episode.
When Jon Snow was about to face the long haired dude only to be trampled and nearly stomped to death was brilliant. Classic GoT trope, thought that was it for him for the 2nd time in the episode.
Also using the shield to catch three arrows was cool as hell.
Awesome episode, had to rewatch it to see Ramsay turn into doggy food.
When Jon Snow was about to face the long haired dude only to be trampled and nearly stomped to death was brilliant. Classic GoT trope, thought that was it for him for the 2nd time in the episode.
Also using the shield to catch three arrows was cool as hell.
Awesome episode, had to rewatch it to see Ramsay turn into doggy food.
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someone took their time to mask the the riders on the foreground, but spending one more minute on matching Travolta's color to the colder scene was too much.
neoism
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Strong rumor, last we heard was one of the GoT directors who said he believed next season was gonna be 7 episodes. At this point I'd be surprised if it was a ten episode season but nothing has been confirmed so it's possible things changed.
It can't be deus ex machina if it was set up.
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omg lol
also DAMN a lot of good CGI in this ep... you know its good when you didnt know.
Man, Jon Snow is a garbage leader and a terrible general, like, Robert E. Lee at Gettysburg terrible (and no, you don't get to blame George Pickett, that's revisionist bullshit).
But unlike Lee, he had Carcetti come and save his useless ass.
Between that bullshit and Rickon inability to run in zig zag pattern the Starks have proven themselves unfit to rule. Sean Bean them all. #TeamPirateLady
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Ramsey should've have cats. I mean the cats would've killed him, but it would've taken them at least 3 episodes and I wouldn't have lost my death pool bet that he survives this season.
Stupid dogs.
But unlike Lee, he had Carcetti come and save his useless ass.
Between that bullshit and Rickon inability to run in zig zag pattern the Starks have proven themselves unfit to rule. Sean Bean them all. #TeamPirateLady
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Ramsey should've have cats. I mean the cats would've killed him, but it would've taken them at least 3 episodes and I wouldn't have lost my death pool bet that he survives this season.
Stupid dogs.
My favorite episode in ages. The payoff here was incredible. So many things finally happening.
That said....
Jon Snow is THE WORST TACTICIAN EVER. Seriously, why does anyone follow this hot-headed meat brain? If it wasn't for Sansa everything would be lost. Speaking of Sansa, her scene with Jon the night before the battle was probably my favorite scene of her's in the show. She's finally come into her own as a strong woman. Great job from Sophie Turner, I usually find her performances bland.
And this might be the first episode since Daeny settled Meereen that I found her scenes exciting.
EDIT: Also, why didn't Wun Wun have a weapon? He just swats at stuff with his big meat hands. No club? No giant spear?
That said....
Jon Snow is THE WORST TACTICIAN EVER. Seriously, why does anyone follow this hot-headed meat brain? If it wasn't for Sansa everything would be lost. Speaking of Sansa, her scene with Jon the night before the battle was probably my favorite scene of her's in the show. She's finally come into her own as a strong woman. Great job from Sophie Turner, I usually find her performances bland.
And this might be the first episode since Daeny settled Meereen that I found her scenes exciting.
EDIT: Also, why didn't Wun Wun have a weapon? He just swats at stuff with his big meat hands. No club? No giant spear?
I think it's:
Take over Winterfell, reinstalling Starks in their rightful seat of power>Unite the North>Prepare for White Walkers.
I don't think they really care about the Iron Throne at this point. Jon doesn't at least. I'm sure Littlefinger saving them will complicate everything though.
I bet GRRM loves this episodes.
I've seen pretty much all the interviews GRRM has on Youtube and one thing he has brought up multiple times is the lack of horses in the show, he understands how unruly they can be and how costly it would be to have them in each episode, so he isn't complaining but he does wish they could be in the show more. I can imagine him fully erect when he saw the clash of horses.
I've seen pretty much all the interviews GRRM has on Youtube and one thing he has brought up multiple times is the lack of horses in the show, he understands how unruly they can be and how costly it would be to have them in each episode, so he isn't complaining but he does wish they could be in the show more. I can imagine him fully erect when he saw the clash of horses.
Vincent Alexander
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I feel like this is something they've done a lot better with this season---not relying on shock value. Unless I'm forgetting something in particular this season.
I feel like they went out of their way to make Jon look more incompetent than previous seasons have made him out to be, and I'm confused. What really drove me crazy was Sansa saying over-and-over how he needed more people. When Jon finally tells her he has asked anyone there is to ask, what honestly could Sansa logically counter with? But the scene is framed and written in a way to still make Jon come off like a horse's ass, when instead he needed to come off like a desperate man with no other options---especially considering Sansa was the one who pushed him to this battle in the first place.
Everything at the battle itself though I completely agree went to show how incompetent of a battle leader he is.
Re-reading my post...I say "I feel" way too much.
Man, everyone's hating on Jon Snow.
He made it clear in his war council how important he thought morale would be in the battle (Stark's honor vs Bolton's fear, and all that). Wouldn't be great for morale for the commander to hide behind his lines while his brother gets shot. And even once Rickon's dead, it wouldn't be great to start the battle off by fleeing back to his lines.
He made a hot-headed decision, but it's not like he had other good options.
He made it clear in his war council how important he thought morale would be in the battle (Stark's honor vs Bolton's fear, and all that). Wouldn't be great for morale for the commander to hide behind his lines while his brother gets shot. And even once Rickon's dead, it wouldn't be great to start the battle off by fleeing back to his lines.
He made a hot-headed decision, but it's not like he had other good options.
The one point Sansa just rams home is "DON'T DO WHAT RAMSEY WANTS YOU TO DO!" and Jon still gets played like a fucking fiddle.
Truly frustrating to watch.
Also, Rickon, bob n' weave, bro. Those Starks just can't avoid sharp edges for shit.
Vincent Alexander
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Hrm. This is actually a good point.
It would've been less frustrating if the writing didn't seem so forcibly one-sided. Sansa getting upset no one asked for her insight...while she was in the room and could've spoken up. At any point. Then she gets grumpy no one asked. Suck up your pride and speak up! But again, it's all written like Jon is an ass.
But the alternate is to let Ramsay murder Rickon without Jon not doing a damn thing, is that the type of character we want Jon to be?
neoism
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yeah I dun get it, love him... jon is the man... anyone with their bother on the line would have acted like he did... he was just tryna save his bro.
useless stark or not.He'll never be the character I want him to be. That's how he got into a no-win situation to begin with.
I feel like the scene with Milisandre implied he wished he'd stayed dead.
Ask any Crow.
Favourite scene from the episode. Only moment I really thought Jon could die in the battle.
Vincent Alexander
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And maybe this is true? Maybe he did want to die again. He seems rather depressed and aimless this season. At some point he is going to need a re-awakening of some sort. Something to give him purpose. Surely it will be the threat of the white walkers.
I just saw this. Appreciate the post.
ZackieChan
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I was waiting for them to flash back to her saying that in his head or something - I guess that never happened in there. Also, where were those trenches he mentioned digging? That didn't seem to help at all.
Weren't the trenches so they couldn't be flanked and that's what ended up happening? Both armies clashed head on.
Vincent Alexander
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They didn't really show them, but they were supposed to dig them to prevent a pincer attack. But then they left their positions, so they became useless anyway (if they ever existed).
They charged. Trenches stop being useful if you move away of them.
Nemesis121
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That was one of the best episode of TV, ever..
Have some perspective, his little brother was about to die. He's not the first person to act irrationally for a family member.
Vincent Alexander
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Agreed. Plus, running out to his brother wasn't the dumb part. If anything, it was him not going back to his line afterwards. However, they show Bolton's archers shoot a line of arrows behind Jon at the same time as he is charging. I'm not certain what they were going for, but maybe we're supposed to see Jon as not having a way back even if he wanted to?
The part where he goes to save him is understandable. The part where he charges the entire army like he's going to solo them is the asinine part.
I think the trenches were dug around where Jon's army was originally positioned. That's why Jon originally wanted Ramsey to charge at him. So once Jon's army ran out to rescue him, they also abandoned the protection of the trenches.
People calling him a bad leader seem to be subscribing to a narrow definition of leadership. No one is following him because of his incredible tactical acumen. He has charisma, character, relates well to everyone, is a great fighter, and has a powerful story. Him charging in how he did comes down, I think, to a few things: 1). he's straight up a Northerner in the Ned Stark vein, knew in his bones he had no choice but to do all he could to save Rickon, and upon witnessing Rickon's death, had a predictable response to that injustice; 2). he's seen shit, he's a couple notches above a zombie now, he's unsure about his purpose, and all this has him feeling a little reckless; and 3). once he made the charge forward, there was no going back.
Jon is still growing into his post-Night's Watch leadership role. He took it reluctantly, and in bad circumstances. Not surprised that watching his brother die was enough to make him lose some composure.
Vincent Alexander
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All good points. I just wish they didn't frame Sansa as the smart, level-headed one who won the battle.
My favourite fuck up of hers is when she thinks she has one over Tyrion when he's forced to marry Sansa, and then Tywin drops the news that she will also have to marry Loras. Hahaha That's also when she threatened to burn their entire house to ground.
Dude, It's not even worth denying it anymore. It's like if all the gods were dead and or fake, and you had to rely on satan to save the world. His ego is big enough that he might just do it out of a perverse need in taking out the competition, but you know deep down he's going to fuck you good in the process.
I doubt it, considering that LF is directly responsible for destabilizing the realm in the first place.
Convinces Lysa to kill her husband.
Tells Cat that the dagger used in Bran's would be assassination belonged to Tyrion.
Betrays Ned (to be fair he did warn him).
I'm pretty sure the rules are about to be changed. Dany+Yara+Dorne Nuts+Dragons are a pretty powerful agent of social change in regards to women empowerment.
GodParticle
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OMG...dead, raised from the dead, and dead again
Vincent Alexander
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OK. I just watched the Anatomy of the Battle for Winterfell, and I feel a lot better about Jon. It confirmed something I was wondering, and that is that Jon's fuckup was going after Rickon. I can't fault him for going after this brother though, as many have said. At that point though, Jon can't retreat. Ivan brings up in that video that the whole point was to bring Jon within range of the archers. They shoot behind him, and he doesn't take off on his horse charging forward until the arrows are let loose behind him blocking off his escape.
Whew, finally got to watch it. Brilliant fucking episode. That battle scene was fantastic. Really captured the terror and horror of what a medieval battle must've been like. I'm sure I'm not the first to say it, but it really felt right out of a Hardcore History episode. And even though my conscious brain knew Jon was going to survive I have to admit I had moments of doubt. The show has pulled enough surprise deaths to have earned it this time.
And capped off with the perfect ending. Very satisfying, unlike Joffrey's death.
No Dorne, no Sparrows, and the Dany stuff was actually reasonably fun this time around. The meeting with the Greyjoy kids was nice. Davos had a nice scene, one we've been waiting for for a while. Man. All-around good shit.
Can't wait for Littlefinger to murder them all next episode. :/
And even though my conscious brain knew Jon was going to survive I have to admit I had moments of doubt. The show has pulled enough surprise deaths to have earned it this time.And capped off with the perfect ending. Very satisfying, unlike Joffrey's death.
No Dorne, no Sparrows, and the Dany stuff was actually reasonably fun this time around. The meeting with the Greyjoy kids was nice. Davos had a nice scene, one we've been waiting for for a while. Man. All-around good shit.
Can't wait for Littlefinger to murder them all next episode. :/
Yeah the encirclement part of the battle totally made me think of Dan Carlin describing the Battle of Cannae.Whew, finally got to watch it. Brilliant fucking episode. That battle scene was fantastic. Really captured the terror and horror of what a medieval battle must've been like. I'm sure I'm not the first to say it, but it really felt right out of a Hardcore History episode.
And capped off with the perfect ending. Very satisfying, unlike Joffrey's death.
No Dorne, no Sparrows, and the Dany stuff was actually reasonably fun this time around. The meeting with the Greyjoy kids was nice. Davos had a nice scene, one we've been waiting for for a while. Man. All-around good shit.
Can't wait for Littlefinger to murder them all next episode. :/
So not a problem for Targaryens. Instead the opposite.
lastplayed
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It did kinda look more like an ancient battle than a medieval one.
Whew, finally got to watch it. Brilliant fucking episode. That battle scene was fantastic. Really captured the terror and horror of what a medieval battle must've been like. I'm sure I'm not the first to say it, but it really felt right out of a Hardcore History episode.
And capped off with the perfect ending. Very satisfying, unlike Joffrey's death.
No Dorne, no Sparrows, and the Dany stuff was actually reasonably fun this time around. The meeting with the Greyjoy kids was nice. Davos had a nice scene, one we've been waiting for for a while. Man. All-around good shit.
Can't wait for Littlefinger to murder them all next episode. :/
Lol I'm actually pretty convinced that Little Finger won't betray Sansa. If he wanted to, why not just wipe out the surviving Stark forces along with Ramsay's army? Why save them just to kill them later when you've got them all lined up and pretty right now?
Yeah, I think this goes back to the build up to the battle being a bit odd. Why was Sansa hiding her request to Littlefinger from Jon? Did anyone actually believe Jon had a reasonable chance to defeat Ramsay, or was the entire effort supposed to feel suicidal? I like how things ended up for the most part, but some stuff around the edges could have been better written. The "Jon went in, was going to lose, and then Sansa showed up with backup" thing could have been executed in a more satisfying way.
Whew, finally got to watch it. Brilliant fucking episode. That battle scene was fantastic. Really captured the terror and horror of what a medieval battle must've been like. I'm sure I'm not the first to say it, but it really felt right out of a Hardcore History episode.
I was thinking "please don't die" during the cavalry charge, when he was trapped under the bodies, and when he was hovering over Ramsay (Mountain vs. Oberyn trauma). I went into the battle almost certain Jon would be okay, but ended up being a nervous mess for almost all of it.
Patrick Bateman
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I'm a bit disappointed how they handled Rickkon. He was gone, did some stuff we'll never know, he died.
This gif has already tallied up 628 GB of bandwidth since I posted it 13 hours ago.
Not bad. Some French website plopped it in their recap article, which outpaced hits from Neogaf.
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Someone pointed this out to me and now I am mad for not picking up on it before. Like I know what the trope is but never really put much thought into it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaggy_dog_story
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaggy_dog_story
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