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[dampflokfreund]

Warning! Many pics!

As you know, the New 3DS has significantly more power than the regular Nintendo 3DS.

CPU: ARM11 @268 MHz Dual Core to ARMv11 Quad Core @268 MHz with L2 cache
RAM: 128 MB to 256 MB in total
VRAM: 6 MB to 10 MB
GPU: yet unknown, but has a built in video decoder.

As you can see, the difference is quite big, big enough to deliver a noticeable boost compared to a regular Nintendo 3DS.

However, at this point there is only one game that really takes advantage of the processing power, as you may already know, the games have to be optimized for the New 3DS architecture to take advantage of the processing power. In this thread we are counting games that have a visual boost or a framerate boost compare to regular 3DS, not including faster loading times.

Games that take advantage of the New 3DS's processing power

What's better?

+ Texture resolution is improved

Old 3DS

New 3DS

New 3DS

Old 3DS

Old 3DS

New 3DS

+ shadow resolution is improved

+framerate is boosted (Not 100% sure about that, please leave your impressions in the thread)

EXCLUSIVE

Power is probably used to render such a huge world. For a handheld this is amazing.

I will update this thread as soon as we get new games that take advantage. Hopefully Nintendo will use this power.

 

[CanUKlehead]

Me too. I hope it's not DSi-type situation and more of a Game Boy Color situation.

Still, I have a feeling we'll get a new handheld announced in the next 12 months.

 

[Leak]

New 3DS, the expansion pack that isn't sold separately.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

Me too. I hope it's not DSi-type situation and more of a Game Boy Color situation.

Still, I have a feeling we'll get a new handheld announced in the next 12 months.

Don't count on that.

I do like your Gameboy Color analogy, though. MonHun 4 proves that you can make games look and run better on the new 3DS without breaking compatibility with the OG models. I hope we see more people take advantage of that, and I would love for older games to be patched too.

 

[boon]

I would love for older games to be patched too.

Amen.

 

[Eyothrie]

Retro City Rampage 3DS vs. n3DS speed comparison:
https://vine.co/v/OPmz7bYvX1Z

 

[dampflokfreund]

Don't count on that.

I do like your Gameboy Color analogy, though. MonHun 4 proves that you can make games look and run better on the new 3DS without breaking compatibility with the OG models. I hope we see more people take advantage of that, and I would love for older games to be patched too.

I'd like that too. Majoras Mask for a example has many framerate hits. New 3DS could fix that. Or Pokemon X and Y. There are many possibilities.

If a old game is patched, I will add them to the OP.

 

[CanUKlehead]

Don't count on that.

I do like your Gameboy Color analogy, though. MonHun 4 proves that you can make games look and run better on the new 3DS without breaking compatibility with the OG models. I hope we see more people take advantage of that, and I would love for older games to be patched too.

For sure, I definitely hope 3DS sticks around for a while. I've grown quite fond ofbit the last couple of years especially. Just never know with Nintendo is all!

 

[CHC]

Damn that Monster Hunter stuff, pretty decent upgrade.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Here's a better MonHun4 comparison showing texture upgrades on monsters: https://imgur.com/a/rzLJb

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Smash Bros doesn't reboot the system anymore, right?

 

[dampflokfreund]

Here's a better MonHun4 comparison showing texture upgrades on monsters: https://imgur.com/a/rzLJb

Mother of god, thats a HUGE difference. I will add this to the OP as soon as possible. Thank you very much.

 

[Richie]

Smash's loading times are almost non existant on the N3DS. Pressing HOME works instantly too, and it supports both Miiverse and the Internet function.

 

[SmithnCo]

Wow, MH4 looks nice with the better textures.

 

[Korosenai]

Smash Bros doesn't reboot the system anymore, right?

Yes, which is the greatest thing ever. Also, amiibo support.

 

[The perfect Dark]

Here's a better MonHun4 comparison showing texture upgrades on monsters: https://imgur.com/a/rzLJb

HOLY SHIT.

I should buy a New 3DS

Question is....will it get enough new games in the next 12 months? release list is pretty weak.

 

[James Scott]

I'd love more MH4U type upgrades going forward. At least using the extra power for more AA or better performance.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

That's... really quite substantial.

Maybe we might get the next 3D Pokemon game on our 3D enabled systems in actual 3D whilst playing on the overworld!

 

[fredrancour]

Here's a better MonHun4 comparison showing texture upgrades on monsters: https://imgur.com/a/rzLJb

Wow, that's a much better comparison. If quality gaps like that become normal I'll wind up buying one of these things.

 

[mgs2master2]

Smash Bros doesn't reboot the system anymore, right?

no it does not.

Smash Bros is actually wonderful now. Almost no load times, wont reboot, all around major improvement to the game.

 

[Maybesew]

Good thread. This was a topic on bombcast last week or the week before. I think they said there were a grand total of 2-3 games that ever took advantage of the DSi. Hopefully this won't be the case with the new 3ds

 

[LordOfChaos]

CPU: ARM11 @268 MHz Dual Core to ARMv11 Quad Core @268 MHz with L2 cache

GPU: yet unknown, but has a built in video decoder.

I'm nit picking for what will amount to an academic difference, but the first part is still in controversy last I checked. Some reports are of a quad core at the same old clock speed (and with 4x VFPv2 Co-Processors to match), some reports are of a dual core at double the clock speed, and one guy told me he saw it mentioned there were two different ARM core types, though that I have not seen backing of.

And the second part, it's widely accepted that the GPU is completely unchanged apart from the added vram - same Pica, same clock speed.

 

[nikatapi]

no it does not.

Smash Bros is actually wonderful now. Almost no load times, wont reboot, all around major improvement to the game.

Plus you can get on Miiverse and post screenshots.

 

[atbigelow]

Yeah it seems only those folks under NDAs know the actual changes to the hardware. It'd be nice if that info got out somehow to confirm what has changed.

 

[The perfect Dark]

If you had to choose between the new 3DS and a WiiU....which one would you buy? I love consoles and handhelds.

 

[kadotsu]

If you had to choose between the new 3DS and a WiiU....which one would you buy? I love consoles and handhelds.

If you never owned a 3DS, get the new 3DS.

 

[SmithnCo]

If you had to choose between the new 3DS and a WiiU....which one would you buy? I love consoles and handhelds.

If you don't have a 3DS yet, New 3DS without a doubt.

If not, probably WiiU.

 

[PensivePen]

I would love for older games to be patched too.

Snake Eater 3D seems like a perfect candidate for this. If that game just ran at a (mostly) stable 30 fps it would be fantastic. As it is now I think it's locked at 20. I doubt we'll see them do anything to it though, not even sure if it's possible.

 

[James Scott]

Snake Eater 3D seems like a perfect candidate for this. If that game just ran at a (mostly) stable 30 fps it would be fantastic. As it is now I think it's locked at 20. I doubt we'll see them do anything to it though, not even sure if it's possible.

Yep, a slight boost to the performance and better button mapping (swap ZR with R, etc) would be pretty nice. They can re-release it as a budget title with a "Better on New Nintendo 3DS" sticker.

If you had to choose between the new 3DS and a WiiU....which one would you buy? I love consoles and handhelds.

Depends if you have a normal 3DS already.

Spoiler

both, imo

 

[The perfect Dark]

If you never owned a 3DS, get the new 3DS.

If you don't have a 3DS yet, New 3DS without a doubt.

If not, probably WiiU.

I bought one in 2011 but sold it due to the lack of good games. 3DS XL or normal version? I prefer image quality over screen size.

 

[Shadow Hog]

Snake Eater 3D seems like a perfect candidate for this. If that game just ran at a (mostly) stable 30 fps it would be fantastic. As it is now I think it's locked at 20. I doubt we'll see them do anything to it though, not even sure if it's possible.

Yeah, that game definitely strikes me as one that could use a "New" touch-up.

 

[Grief.exe]

I bought one in 2011 but sold it due to the lack of good games. 3DS XL or normal version? I prefer image quality over screen size.

If you play DS games then get the XL version for 1:1 pixel mapping. If you have large hands, the original 3DS is essentially unplayable.

Edit: you reference the new 3DS versions in your first post, rendering my comments irrelevant as they refer to the older versions.

Spoiler

you should get a 3DS XL and a WiiU

 

[Tsunamo]

I'm really impressed they went and did that for Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate. I wanted something like that to happen for New 3DS versions of software but I really wasn't expecting someone to do it.

Hopefully more devs follow suite.

Spoiler

So I have more reason to actually get one

 

[samn]

I bought one in 2011 but sold it due to the lack of good games. 3DS XL or normal version? I prefer image quality over screen size.

Get the normal version.

I have large hands and I find the n3DS just as, if not more comfortable than my XL, and the screen looks substantially better. Images on screen look more like actual entities and less like blobs of pixels.

I've tried playing nDS games in blown up mode as well, and found that they look surprisingly good on the screen anyway.

 

[18-Volt]

Of all future games, I can only think Codename STEAM and Fire Emblem If as games to take advantage of that power. What else is coming this year that might graphically challenge the hardware?

 

[The perfect Dark]

If you play DS games then get the XL version for 1:1 pixel mapping. If you have large hands, the original 3DS is essentially unplayable.

Spoiler

you should get a 3DS XL and a WiiU

I have large hands but I don't play DS games, damn^^

Get the normal version.

I have large hands and I find the n3DS just as, if not more comfortable than my XL, and the screen looks substantially better. Images on screen look more like actual entities and less like blobs of pixels.

I've tried playing nDS games in blown up mode as well, and found that they look surprisingly good on the screen anyway.

thanks ^^

 

[Grief.exe]

I have large hands but I don't play DS games, damn^^




thanks ^^

Check my Edit, that comment references the older versions.

The n3DS is bigger than the original and has 1:1 for DS games.

 

[FairXchange]

Are you serious?! I thought that MH4 looked really sharp while I was playing it. What an awesome surprise that I'm actually playing an enhanced version. That makes the purchase of the new hardware even sweeter, as I'm loving MH4 to begin with.

 

[PensivePen]

I have large hands but I don't play DS game

If you do I would try and see if you can get your hands on one of each size, even if just for a few minutes to see how it feels. I know for some people it doesn't bother them at all, but for me the original 3DS size is horribly uncomfortable.

 

[BTHR Zero X]

eerrr can the 3DS take screen shots? yet this were taken with a poor camera @.@

Or am I missing something?


But on topic that does seem like a nice upgrade

 

[BigTnaples]

Really disappointed that MM didn't take any advantage of it aside from camera control.


For a game with its own limited edition of the console, you'd think it would.

 

[samn]

Really disappointed that MM didn't take any advantage of it aside from camera control.


For a game with its own limited edition of the console, you'd think it would.

Especially with a few of the framerate drops..

 

[TI82]

Really disappointed that MM didn't take any advantage of it aside from camera control.


For a game with its own limited edition of the console, you'd think it would.

Yeah. No kidding, talk about lazy or hoarding games away.

Anyway I hope they do an update for pokemon or something. It could really use the extra power. At least for Z/Emerald/X2Y2

 

[Ridley327]

Really disappointed that MM didn't take any advantage of it aside from camera control.


For a game with its own limited edition of the console, you'd think it would.

It's weird, since the game has some framerate problems here and there. You think that would be an easy thing to support.

 

[Naminator]

I know this is a bit off topic but WOW, I did not know that the processor in the 3DS was that bad, I knew it was pretty weak and all, but god damn I think there are 100$ cellphones that can put even the new 3DS to shame.

 

[DKHustlin]

Here's a better MonHun4 comparison showing texture upgrades on monsters: https://imgur.com/a/rzLJb

is this 4 real? how was the pic taken? is the 3d on or off? damn thats a huge difference. also is this the real game or the demo

 

[PSGames]

The fact they put this much effort into upgrading MonHun4 makes me want to buy the game now when previously I had middling interest.

 

[Deadstar]

Yeah, I'm glad monster hunter takes advantage of it. I'm used to the vita and I didn't realize how bad the graphics were on the 3ds. The extra power will make it more tolerable for me.

 

[SmithnCo]

Of all future games, I can only think Codename STEAM and Fire Emblem If as games to take advantage of that power. What else is coming this year that might graphically challenge the hardware?

Hopefully the next Pokemon game. The built-in amiibo functionality will probably help too, if they want to rake in the dough.

 

[dampflokfreund]

Really disappointed that MM didn't take any advantage of it aside from camera control.


For a game with its own limited edition of the console, you'd think it would.

Yeah I was disappointed too. There are many FPS dips in MM 3D the N3DS could eliminate.

Of all future games, I can only think Codename STEAM and Fire Emblem If as games to take advantage of that power. What else is coming this year that might graphically challenge the hardware?

Do you really think the 3DS has only 2 games this year? Of course there will be more.