I mean, the biggest issue for me isn't so much text translation but rather after spending+200hrs in generations I have absolutely no desire to start over from the beginning since there's no save transfer from gen to XX.
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GameSpot: Capcom Not Bringing Switch Ver. of Monster Hunter XX to US (at this time)
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Gotdatmoney
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I've played enough MH and specifically Gen 4 that I would be able to navigate fine as far as crafting and armour is concerned. But not a chance in hell I can tolerate having a database open for armour and gem abilities rhrough a huge ass list of charms. Fuck that.
If it's your first MH do not do this to yourself.
Digging through the Capcom Unity forums is a nightmare so best I can manage is this Facebook post on Google.
In hindsight we know they were only about 4 months away from an announcement of a 2015 MH4G localization (which in and of itself was still annoyingly late as MH4 had been announced for Japan back in September 2011 and released two weeks before the Facebook post). Both of these statements ultimately say nothing, but note the far more positive tone of this post compared to yesterday's flat "we have not announced any plans at this time".
I'm with you on that, too. I spent a ton of time crafting weapons and armor sets and checking off all those low rank gathering quests, so that's another huge deterrent to going the import route.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Importing is rewarding Capcom's failure to their western handheld audience.
Thanks for the digging work. Yeah, that particular quote doesn't really help one way or the other I'm afraid :/.
I still think the update tweet is too oddly-phrased for it to simply be a case of Capcom sucking at PR and having no intentions of bringing the game over. To be honest, I'm usually much more wary of statements like the one you quoted, which isn't that different from "we'll see based on fan feedback", which never pans out. Unnaturally cautious/damage-control-ey statements, however, are what I find fishy and potentially unofficial good news, if that makes any sense.
Eolz
Member
I hope that more publications other than gamespot will keep asking them over the next month if their localization plans changed or not.
Looking forward to seeing more Japan only MonHun games for sure...
This.
It's not even limited to MH, look at SFV's schedule still being a mystery, MvC's issues, AA's treatment in the west and countless other communication issues.
Looking forward to seeing more Japan only MonHun games for sure...
This.
It's not even limited to MH, look at SFV's schedule still being a mystery, MvC's issues, AA's treatment in the west and countless other communication issues.
SporeCrawler
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nah switch is the perfect platform for MH as far as i am concerned, i imported MH titles since MHG..
Father_Brain
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Having had a lot more time to think MHW through, I think it makes more sense if you consider when the project was greenlit, around 2013 or 2014.
The Western dedicated handheld market was clearly in decline, and MH4 hadn't even launched outside Japan, so it wasn't clear how much longer the series would be viable on 3DS in the West. PS4 hadn't launched or had only just launched in Japan, so it wasn't clear how badly it would founder there. NX hadn't even been talked about, and it wasn't clear at the time whether it would be successful or how easily it would fit into the PS4/XB1/PC development ecosystem (and to be frank, the latter still isn't entirely clear).
I don't think it was the smartest possible move and I strongly doubt MHW will meet Capcom's sales expectations, but I think it's at least somewhat understandable without the benefit of hindsight.
If MHW meets their expectations, the MHW series will continue. If it doesn't, they'll probably just bring future Switch releases multiplatform. Either way, the franchise will continue on Switch in some form.
Not localizing MHXX really would be indefensible, though, and people are right to be upset about it.
The Western dedicated handheld market was clearly in decline, and MH4 hadn't even launched outside Japan, so it wasn't clear how much longer the series would be viable on 3DS in the West. PS4 hadn't launched or had only just launched in Japan, so it wasn't clear how badly it would founder there. NX hadn't even been talked about, and it wasn't clear at the time whether it would be successful or how easily it would fit into the PS4/XB1/PC development ecosystem (and to be frank, the latter still isn't entirely clear).
I don't think it was the smartest possible move and I strongly doubt MHW will meet Capcom's sales expectations, but I think it's at least somewhat understandable without the benefit of hindsight.
If MHW meets their expectations, the MHW series will continue. If it doesn't, they'll probably just bring future Switch releases multiplatform. Either way, the franchise will continue on Switch in some form.
Not localizing MHXX really would be indefensible, though, and people are right to be upset about it.
This has been my mindset from the start. The reactions are extremely dramatic about this.
Perhaps Capcom cannot announce XX for the west because they have some deal with Nintendo and it's not really theirs to announce?
Some of you guys are interpreting Capcom's messaging in some negative, twisted ways. The polite thing to do in customer service is to offer an alternative when you cannot supply with something initially. Just because Capcom mentioned Worlds after saying they had no plans at the moment for XX does not mean they are spitting in your face about how XX will never come to the west. Yikes.
wonderful103
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It's not coming, and the messaging is clear on that.
Why would Nintendo want all the attention at E3 to be on a Monster Hunter game that isn't coming to their console?
I'm sure we'll be getting news about MHP3rd any day now. Maybe once MHW is out Capcom will finally be ready to talk about that one.
Sounds like more excuses to me. They have given no indication that it is coming or that Nintendo is forcing them to be hush on this game. Knowing history, I don't know why some are so eager to give Capcpm the benefit of the doubt when they've abandoned many a fanbase before.
No more assumptions, only the reality that I'm given as a consumer.
DrROBschiz
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Its a bummer
Was looking forward to XX on Switch to pass the time till MHW hits
But Im not overly sour. I had tons of hours on Gen and I have to say.... being off 3DS is gonna be a dream
I just wish that dream also extended to Switch
Even Nintendo is making WAAAYY to many exclusive 3DS games right now. I blame them entirely for all of this
I feel for you guys that are burnt by this. As a Vita owner I had to swallow a hard ass pill for 6 years
Was looking forward to XX on Switch to pass the time till MHW hits
But Im not overly sour. I had tons of hours on Gen and I have to say.... being off 3DS is gonna be a dream
I just wish that dream also extended to Switch
Even Nintendo is making WAAAYY to many exclusive 3DS games right now. I blame them entirely for all of this
I feel for you guys that are burnt by this. As a Vita owner I had to swallow a hard ass pill for 6 years
Not the same scenario. There was no Vita MH. This is the case akin to later PSP Monster Hunter titles where Capcom couldn't be bothered to localize them.
I'm cautiously interested in MHW, but I want to know what Generations additions besides Prowler that I'm losing for this title, and holding out to see how much content it'll have, otherwise I'll wait for its "Ultimate" edition.
Anyways, losing portability is a huge bludgeon to me.
Yeah, Capcom's management has been so awful.
Don't forget the new studio they created with MH money to get into the mobile business so the company could be more sustainable. They produced flop after flop.
lyrick
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I started working through Kanji flashcards this morning.
I probably should have started this back in 2010.
wonderful103
Member
Well isn't that a hot take.
Gotdatmoney
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Not even that. MHP3 was never in any kind of English and the platform it was on was dead as hell. It still suckes all kinds of ass though.
This situation is fucking trash however. Release the base version but leave the expansion unlocalized on platforms that more than make up their localization budget? Trash company.
Most of the titles are by smaller teams and Metroid 3DS is a remake. Most of their big teams are working on Switch, even a mainline Pokemon, a handheld only series will be coming to the Switch.
Yeah, but haven't they really only abandoned series that weren't really selling that well in the west? Generations doesn't really have that problem.
I don't know jack about how videogame business deals actually work but maybe they want to build momentum with the brand and have a localized version of XX announced slightly later? Maybe that is all part of a hypothetical deal.
Doesn't seem as a definitive 'never' to me as it does to you.
Maybe I'm just naive about how Capcom really is. It just seems like too much potential money to ignore to me.
DrROBschiz
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Capcom uses their Local Western Branches to localize or do they still sub out to contractors like 8-4?
Maybe a bit of both?
I can only think that the priority of localizing XX for Switch was shot down the list because:
- MHW was in dev for 4 years already and part of a preexisting plan for their lineup BEFORE Switch came on the scene
- The resources they use to localize for MH only do one project at a time so once Gen was finished for 3DS they all moved on the MHW.
Still a shame they couldnt at least coax Nintendo into stepping in and helping. I wonder what the story is here
Is it just because its a Switch game and Capcom doesnt want to go all in yet?
I just wished the whole "Unified Platform" future was already here. At the very least I expected more Cross Gen titles. As it is now Capcom JP are the only ones to make one
Its irritating to have such a huge pile of great titles marooned on 3DS
Maybe a bit of both?
I can only think that the priority of localizing XX for Switch was shot down the list because:
- MHW was in dev for 4 years already and part of a preexisting plan for their lineup BEFORE Switch came on the scene
- The resources they use to localize for MH only do one project at a time so once Gen was finished for 3DS they all moved on the MHW.
Still a shame they couldnt at least coax Nintendo into stepping in and helping. I wonder what the story is here
Is it just because its a Switch game and Capcom doesnt want to go all in yet?
I just wished the whole "Unified Platform" future was already here. At the very least I expected more Cross Gen titles. As it is now Capcom JP are the only ones to make one
Its irritating to have such a huge pile of great titles marooned on 3DS
Meesh
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It most certainly is painful. But I imported 4 before I got 4U, imported Cross before Generations, and imported Portable Third... I'll keep the silly tradition alive and import Double Cross if I have to. Thanks for the heads up in the data base, cheers!
Edit: Someone should flood Reggie with tweets and ask if Nintendo's willing to step in and localize this thing.
AndrewDean84xX
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Wrong thread
El Pescado
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All the momentum Monster Hunter has in the US right now is from the last few games that were released on Nintendo platforms. I'm not saying I want MHW ported to Switch, but MHXX is mostly translated and Capcom basically shoving it aside and being all "Please be excited" for MHW is doing nothing but aggravating large swaths of the fan base they spent so much time cultivating.
Am I sold on MHW? No. Would I have given it a chance? Absolutely. Will I give it a chance now that Capcom is telling me the game I actually want isn't good enough to get localized? Nope.
TheBaldEmperor
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I agree about letting Reggie know and asking even though it isn't their game. I mentioned it one of these threads that I would hope he would be asked about it in an interview during E3. Just so they have an idea that Nintendo fans want more of this franchise. I wonder if any of the backlash has made it's way back to him.
A mix, but Generations was in-house.
Muchi Muchi Pink
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Already the case for me.
DrROBschiz
Member
At least PC is a pretty Ubiquitous platform?
I wonder why you couldnt do cross platform with PC/Xbone
It's probably a Windows Store thing, and Capcom is all about that Steam life.
AndrewDean84xX
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Ok, I'm done harping on the stupid choice Capcom made. I'm done with them until the do the western handlheld community right.
Peace out.
Peace out.
If I had to guess, they're setting up some kind of RE.net equivalent for World. Hope it's not too invasive on the game itself.
It would probably piss-off Sony, and they do seem some kind of a deal with them (not the 4cah stuff, but we do have confirmation of exclusive content and there seems to be a marketing accord).
Well, those consoles are region free. You could always import like i'm doing with XX on Switch.
I'm not gonna get anything Capcom USA puts out anymore till they release XX in the west.
Too bad we don't have Bish to verify people anymore to avoid stuff like this.
DrROBschiz
Member
Now thats very interesting indeed
That's only going to keep feeding the 4chan rumor.
I agree with this and said as much in the Capcom E3 thread from Jawmuncher.
Eolz
Member
Hey you're back!
Honestly I wouldn't mind if XX was Switch only in the west, it would make sense for long term plans and force some people to transition.
My main issue with this whole thing is that there's no portable MonHun in the west going forward, not even a one time thing like 3U on WiiU didn't lead to 4U there for example.
Capcom localizing this after World would be too late, and if the latter is a success, well...
DrROBschiz
Member
Hmm maybe there will be a portable PC option thats powerful enough to run the game someday
Is Smach Z still a thing?
GPD Win is making a mini pc though it doesnt have built in controls... I dunno
Is Smach Z still a thing?
GPD Win is making a mini pc though it doesnt have built in controls... I dunno
Tegra X3 should be coming out sooner or later. Maybe a year or two?
Sony could use it for a Vita 2. It'd be twice as powerful as a Switch and should be able to run it.
lwilliams3
Member
Good post.
The new GPD UMPC has the same chip than the GPDWin. It might be able to run nevertheless, though
. Also, GPD is on the very early stages (as in considering) of developing a GPDWin with a Core M sock. That would have much better odds of running the PC sku with acceptable performance.Using the SW as point of reference, both have stronger CPU, but the Core M should be by a considerable margin, and also stronger than the Ps4Pro. On the GPU department, the current GPDWin is weaker than the switch undocked by a good marging, while the Core M should approach the Switch in docked mode.
Come on dude. I know you are here to troll, but just let me point out that no, any hypothetical PSP3 has zero chance of running the PC version of MHW,
The tegra X3 will have 512 gpu cores. For reference, Switch, with x1, has 256.
Tell me more how it'd be impossible to get a MH:W running on the x3.
There's no PSP3. And the poster you are quoting is asking about running the PC version, so an imaginary Surface Xbox is more relevant than an imaginary PSP3.
It should go without saying that nothing will run the exact same version to any decent level. GPD win struggles in much simpler games.
The upcoming Tegra X3 might actually handle a port though. It will be suitable for handhelds. And a dedicated gaming device would have a better chance of running it.
So, E3 has come and gone. Nintendo didn't make a surprise announcement on Treehouse, as some had speculated. With MH World taking the spotlight, MH Stories already occupying the fall release window and without any promotional push for MH:XX for the West (which basically would require a release of both 3DS and Switch versions) in sight... is now the time to finally give up on it, then?
Man, I don't want to play this in Japanese.
Man, I don't want to play this in Japanese.
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