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(GAO) ... President Trump's administration broke the law

belmarduk

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Its not a strawman. Its a comment about the reason Trump was asking for an investigation. Completely valid topic when you claim asking for it was bad. Except in Dimmy clown world.
When did I claim investigating Biden was bad?
 

NickFire

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When did I claim investigating Biden was bad?
I did not mean you specifically. I mean the topic of the discussion. People are mad because he asked for investigation before releasing funds.

Talking heads have been everywhere, screeching Pelosi's marching orders. "The conduct of the guy the top law enforcement official wanted investigated is irrelevant. Whether an investigation was warranted has no relevancy to whether he was bad to ask for it."
 
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Kenpachii

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Trump could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and his die-hard fans would still support him.
You = media

The reason why that is is simple. If you lie about a person endlessly nobody will believe you the moment u don't lie about him as they will just assume its yet another lie because honestly who trusts you at this point.
 

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Hmmmmm. Only provides opinion from Dems and no counter claims - but still troubling. Office of Management and Budgets surely knows of this law—will come down to interpretation and applications of that law
 

Afro Republican

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Yep, random organization, appeared out of nowhere to offer an opinion in the middle of impeachment probe the were never involved in, months after several hearings, testimonies, and interviews.

"Here we are guys, we just appeared randomly out of nowhere to give you this pointless opinion that will have zero impact on the trial."
 

Thaedolus

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Yep, random organization, appeared out of nowhere to offer an opinion in the middle of impeachment probe the were never involved in, months after several hearings, testimonies, and interviews.

"Here we are guys, we just appeared randomly out of nowhere to give you this pointless opinion that will have zero impact on the trial."
A 100 year old agency in charge of auditing the federal government, which was used as cudgel against Obama when it said he broke the law, is now randomly appearing out of nowhere!

Bruh, this is an open and shut case about Trump misappropriating duly appropriated funds. If you think it won’t matter in the senate trial, fine, but stick with that instead of this bullshit you’re peddling
 
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What is the penalty for withholding aide but still getting it in before the deadline if it is illegal?

Trump has withheld aide to plenty of other countries also and no one cares or mentions them.
 
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Afro Republican

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A 100 year old agency in charge of auditing the federal government, which was used as cudgel against Obama when it said he broke the law, is now randomly appearing out of nowhere!
I'm glad you agree since they were never involved in any part of the process until now, which literally would be the definition of "suddenly" or "out of Nowhere" so good on you for learning to accept reality. *sniff* They grow up so fast.
 

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I'm glad you agree since they were never involved in any part of the process until now, which literally would be the definition of "suddenly" or "out of Nowhere" so good on you for learning to accept reality. *sniff* They grow up so fast.
They’re still not “involved in any part of the process,” they’re just doing what they’ve done all along. Just because you had never heard of the GAO before doesn’t mean they just happened into existence to slam your dear leader. He broke the law, they’re calling balls and strikes, deal with it
 

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They’re still not “involved in any part of the process,” they’re just doing what they’ve done all along. Just because you had never heard of the GAO before doesn’t mean they just happened into existence to slam your dear leader. He broke the law, they’re calling balls and strikes, deal with it
Oh right, because the TIMING isn't suspicious at all........
 
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Oh right, because the TIMING isn't suspicious at all........
Ah suspicious timing ...like that time Trump withheld aid while pressuring Zelinsky to announce investigations into Bidens...

But at least people have digested that by now. The new line of defense seems to be that Biden did something wrong and apparently dragging him in front of the Senate makes sense to try and justify Trump's actions. 🤡🌎
 
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Ah suspicious timing ...like that time Trump withheld aid while pressuring Zelinsky to announce investigations into Bidens...

But at least people have digested that by now. The new line of defense seems to be that Biden did something wrong and apparently dragging him in front of the Senate makes sense to try and justify Trump's actions. 🤡🌎
How cute. You are Larping how you see other posters on GAF that don’t follow the DNC and MSM script.
 

Afro Republican

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Ah suspicious timing ...like that time Trump withheld aid while pressuring Zelinsky to announce investigations into Bidens...

But at least people have digested that by now. The new line of defense seems to be that Biden did something wrong and apparently dragging him in front of the Senate makes sense to try and justify Trump's actions. 🤡🌎
You mean the aide that was already commanded to be held before the phone call?

Also there is no need to defend Trump, just pointing out the logical fallacys of those thinking this impeachment is legit, since they can't find any concrete evidence or witnesses that don't contradict each other or thrown each other under the bus like Sondland did to Taylor.

He's innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around sorry.
 

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What is the penalty for withholding aide but still getting it in before the deadline if it is illegal?

Trump has withheld aide to plenty of other countries also and no one cares or mentions them.
Select establishment Dems don't have ties to corrupt shady shit in those other places?
 

USMC43

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Ah suspicious timing ...like that time Trump withheld aid while pressuring Zelinsky to announce investigations into Bidens...

But at least people have digested that by now. The new line of defense seems to be that Biden did something wrong and apparently dragging him in front of the Senate makes sense to try and justify Trump's actions. 🤡🌎
You're a special kind of REEEEE aren't you? Good, the Bidens should be investigated, at the very least for pedophilia. What is NEW about calling Joe Biden corrupt??? You dolts have selective memory... Again, what's your response to the video of Joe bragging in front of the CFR doing the SAME FUCKING THING?
 

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I guess you couldsay this if you pretend the thread you're posting in right now and the OP doesn't actually exist, but then you'd be crazy.
They're not involved in the impeachment process. Their opinion has no legal weight when it comes to removing Trump from office. The opinion is almost benign when you consider how blatantly obvious it is that Trump violated the law in withholding the aide. Congress can do with it what they please, including ignore it like the GOP is already doing. How are they involved in the process at all?
They’re not.
 

Afro Republican

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There’s no crap here, you’re simply wrong and moving on to separate points/issues.
You are very defunct. Either that or you're being paid to be as irrational and illogical as possible.

They came out of nowhere at a crucial time as the Senate receives the articles, after months of procedure, and the Democrats are considering their statement to support their position = Yes they are now suddenly involved out of nowhere, the amount of involvement is limited yet but that are. Yes, a Random company has appeared to give their input out of thin air.

You are generally wrong every time you post on this topic, generally people don't screw up as much as you do at such high a frequency while also failing to built the strawmans you desperately crave at the same time.

The fact your first response was they were not "random" because they were a government organization shows how hard you're trying to scrape for straws. They randomly came out of nowhere and gave input on an ongoing investigation/trial, fact.
 
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  • auditing agency operations to determine whether federal funds are being spent efficiently and effectively;
  • investigating allegations of illegal and improper activities;
  • reporting on how well government programs and policies are meeting their objectives;
  • performing policy analyses and outlining options for congressional consideration;
  • issuing legal decisions and opinions;
  • advising Congress and the heads of executive agencies about ways to make government more efficient and effective.
Totally random organization having no reason to give input on this matter...
 

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This goes into why this a non-issue, GOA is making shit up.
 
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The Government Accountability Office (GAO) issued a legal opinion on Thursday saying that President Trump's administration broke the law by withholding defense aid to Ukraine — the issue at the heart of the president's impeachment trial.
Dunno. Americans are stupid or what?
AFAIR presidents in USA regularly "break the law" and the matter is settled in the Supreme Court.
In fact Obama's administration lost in 56% of these cases, the absolute record amount in US history.
And one such case is touted here. Just one.
 

JORMBO

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Ah the good old Obama whataboutism. We shall call it "Whatobamatism" from now on. No one is basing the entire impeachment on the GAOs finding, it's simply the cherry on top of the giant heap of shit Trump has created...
It is simply poking a hole in this being a “huge bombshell” that the media has been boasting about.

These stories always come super hot out the gate but as you learn more details about it they start to cool down a bit. Everyone was hyping this up like GAO has never done this before, but it seems pretty common. Most people probably never even heard of GAO prior to yesterday because it’s never really been covered in the past.

I never have stated the whole impeachment is based on the GAO finding. Impeachment has been in the works for a long time and this came out yesterday, so that doesn’t even make sense. In initially hearing the news my thought was “how common is this GAO opinion and what is the legal penalty if true”? It sounds like they have given opinions like this quite often based on the article. I’m not discrediting the original story with a “but Obama”. The past helps provide more details on what this is exactly. As I mentioned earlier, I doubt most people knew what GAO was until yesterday.
 

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Speaks directly to the constitutional duty of a president of executing his duty in good faith, which clearly he didn't. Add on top of it that "his own policy priorities" were smearing political rivals and victimizing himself for being criticized during his election. Geez, it's like the most horrific train wreck I've ever seen with the most dedicated flock of sheep going along.
I think you're right. This time you got him, Again:II:The Second Coming:Revengence:The Squeakuel.
 
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Pointing out that other presidents have been subjected to negative opinions by this body and nobody cared about it at all until it happened to Trump is not Whataboutism. It is exposing the hypocrisy of sheep. It isn't the first time that the sky is falling over benign events and it won't be the last. Keep looking like you just started following politics in 2016, it is super impressive.
 
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Ah the good old Obama whataboutism. We shall call it "Whatobamatism" from now on. No one is basing the entire impeachment on the GAOs finding, it's simply the cherry on top of the giant heap of shit Trump has created...
That is not a whataboutism. That is context. You’d know thendifference if you weren’t caught up smelling your own farts.
 

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The Executive brand and the Legislative branch are designed to be adversarial. At any given point in time, there should be accusations of improper procedure. It's part of how checks and balances work (hint: it's the checks).

The only relevancy any of this has to the impeachment theater, is that it's (probably) an intentional timed release; it's (definitely) being intentionally misconstrued by the media, and it's being used as really weak disinformation to intentionally muddy the waters with the large portion of the populace that doesn't understand how the system functions.
 

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This time we've got him.

Wait, this is from a couple days ago. Did we get him?
 

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This is just like campaign finance violations where it was hyped up because of Stormy and Avantii, yet Obama was paying record fines for his violations.
 
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