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Dali

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It's only gay if you're gay.

*looks at tnw*

Point proven.

edit: That fight was pretty weak compared to what I was watching Wednesday though.
 

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I always thought UCF was totally gay. They just hug on the ground for 5 minutes. Boxing is way more sporting, in my opinion.
 

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Linkzg said:
Why you gotta hate on straight guys who enjoy seeing two men fighting for sport?

in boxing they don't crawl all over the floor in mounting poisition while half ass sparring at each other

I don't mind seeing it of course. Kikuta is sexy as hell :D
 

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tnw said:
in boxing they don't crawl all over the floor in mounting poisition while half ass sparring at each other

I don't mind seeing it of course. Kikuta is sexy as hell :D

This man knows his shit. Boxing is a true sport. It's not barbaric and cheap like UCF.
 

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vas_a_morir said:
This man knows his shit. Boxing is a true sport. It's not barbaric and cheap like UCF.

I just started watching UFC fairly recently and I'm not sure what makes boxing a "true sport" yet MMA is barbaric.
 

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vas_a_morir said:
This man knows his shit. Boxing is a true sport. It's not barbaric and cheap like UCF.

not so much barbaric and cheap, more like 'soft porn'

what's up with the mounting position? I mean god, my roommates were watching this and after seeing a couple of minutes I almost had to excuse myself to go to the bathroom
 

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tnw said:
not so much barbaric and cheap, more like 'soft porn'

what's up with the mounting position? I mean god, my roommates were watching this and after seeing a couple of minutes I almost had to excuse myself to go to the bathroom

It's about weight control. When a fight goes to the ground, it's one of the best positions you can be in.

Theoretically.
 

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Dali said:
I just started watching UFC fairly recently and I'm not sure what makes boxing a "true sport" yet MMA is barbaric.

When a man gets knocked down, a guy can't pummel his face when he is defenseless. That shit is barbaric. Boxing, you go to your corner and wait for him to come back to his senses or they call the fight.
 
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tnw said:
in boxing they don't crawl all over the floor in mounting poisition while half ass sparring at each other

I don't mind seeing it of course. Kikuta is sexy as hell :D


A lot of boxers would probably get their ass kicked by some of these guys.
 

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tnw said:
not so much barbaric and cheap, more like 'soft porn'

what's up with the mounting position? I mean god, my roommates were watching this and after seeing a couple of minutes I almost had to excuse myself to go to the bathroom

:lol

I found it rather amusing when my deeply homophobic brother watches it with his friends.
 

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Choke on the Magic said:
A lot of boxers would probably get their ass kicked by some of these guys.

and have been lol.

Boxing is a beautiful sport. But MMA takes balls (pun intended)
 

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Luckily most of us don't look for sexual connotations in everything

dude, I don't even have to 'look' with this. two buff almost naked dudes fighting in a 'mounting position'?

I admit, I watch MMA to watch the yummy guys.

me too
 
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tnw said:
in boxing they don't crawl all over the floor in mounting poisition while half ass sparring at each other
That's the dumbest motherfucking post I've seen on this board. Congrats.

vas_a_morir said:
When a man gets knocked down, a guy can't pummel his face when he is defenseless. That shit is barbaric. Boxing, you go to your corner and wait for him to come back to his senses or they call the fight.
Here's a strong contender. When in a well-reffed MMA fight have you seen someone punched after they're defenseless? I'd like a link, because I've watched a lot of fights and I have never seen that.
 

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Choke on the Magic said:
A lot of boxers would probably get their ass kicked by some of these guys.

Not if they fought by boxing rules. It would be pathetic. Boxers are built to punch, not get on the ground and kiss the back of each other's necks.
 

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Choke on the Magic said:
A lot of boxers would probably get their ass kicked by some of these guys.


And Michael Jordan would get owned by Gabrielle Reese in a Volleyball match. What's your point?
 

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The line between this and watching two guys dry hump for a half-hour may be razor thin, but it's there.
 

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Can't two half-naked guys grope and put their arms around each other, and stick their faces in each other's crotches, without it being called "gay"?

...

OK, never mind. I was going to say it wasn't so different from wrestling (not that THAT's free from homoerotic overtones or anything), but moments like the one at around 2:45 . . . 0_o (and please - I'm sure many straight guys will steadfastly refuse to see anything "gay" in this, but show this video to a woman and you're likely to get a >_>)
 

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I'm usually a lurker here, but figured I'd come out of the woods and say something when I stumbled on this topic. Saying all of that was "gay" is pretty ignorant. Submission grappling, ground fighting, Brazilian/Gracie Jiu-jitsu, or however people know it as is an aspect of fighting that a lot of the American/European population really hasn't grasped yet, probably because it's a lot more technical and difficult to understand than something like boxing.

MMA isn't something new. It dates back all the way to the Greeks with their Pankration tournaments. When MMA burst into the modern mainstream with the UFC, it was in fact very "barabaric" and that's what almost killed the sport. MMA has gone through a lot of changes over the years though. Many rules have since been implemented and official state governing bodies sanction events here in the U.S.. New York is I believe the only state that still illegalizes it, although that will probably change by the end of this year. People who don't follow the sport still think it's a "fight to the death" or "anything goes no holds barred" type of fighting. It's kind of ridiculous sometimes how ignorant people can be.

What's funny is that even though a lot of the rule changes that has further "sportified" MMA has only come about in the last decade or so... despite all that, in its 100 year history, the number of deaths and/or career ending/life-threatening injuries is only something like 2 or 3. The most recent one was from last year and the fighter who passed away, they believe he died not because of the fight but because of a developing aneurysm that the medical doctors did not catch BEFORE the fight. That one is still under investigation. The last one before that was like 5-6 years ago I think in Russia from an unsanctioned event. Compare that to other combat sports like boxing... hell compare it to non-combat sports like football and hockey.

It's funny that people call the sport "barbaric" even now because something like boxing for example is actually more dangerous and brutal. In MMA, there is absolutely nothing shameful about "tapping out" to a submission and/or you feel that you can no longer physically continue... and if the referee thinks that one fighter is no longer intelligently defending he MUST stop the fight. In boxing, you keep going until the other guy is knocked out. And even if you get knocked down, you have 10 seconds to get up... and then you keep going. "Throwing in the towel" in boxing is considered extremely shameful.

You also have to remember that boxers in the Heavyweight division for example wear 16 oz gloves. Imagine getting hit so hard in the head, that even with 16 oz of padding you still get knocked out... and if you have the misfortune of only getting knocked down, they give you 10 seconds to get back up and endure even more head trauma. Did I also forget that you go 12 rounds? In MMA even championship fights are only 5 rounds and usually 5 minutes in a lot of orgs. In smaller amateur shows, it's usually 3 rounds, 3 minutes each. They also only wear 4 oz/6 oz grappling gloves, which means that if the attacker hits with the same force as he did with 16 oz gloves he'd probably end up breaking his hand and hurting himself more than you. Without heavily padded gloves, a lot of the force gets absorbed by the attacker also, so it's just mostly superficial trauma, as opposed to boxing where it is almost all blunt trauma (which is a lot hells more serious and dangerous).

A long time ago, they used to call boxing champions the "best fighter in the world." Nowadays, for anyone who watches all combat sports, in actuality, they're the best boxer in the world. Boxing is the sport of punching. MMA is the sport of fighting... it incorporates EVERYTHING. You tell me which is more difficult to master.

Here in the states, when a fight goes to ground, people boo, holler, and jeer right away. In other places like Japan for example where the population is more heavily informed on ground fighting... they're very quiet for most of the fight and you get your oohs and ahhs when you see sweeps, beautiful transitions to submission, guard escapes, etc.. It's an art form and very enjoyable if you take the time to learn it... even more so if you go out and practice and participate.

As for the video, the man who won is Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, he is the current UFC Interim HW Champ and is a legend in the sport. Youtube his epic fight with Bob Sapp and you will understand why grappling is such an important aspect of fighting. He has an identical twin brother, named Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, who is pretty damn good also but fights at Light Heavyweight.
 
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I'm curious. What type of ground position would the 'it's gay' crowd use to avoid being submitted by an armbar or a choke, for example? How many know what the "mounting" position is actually called? I can't help but :lol at the reactionary politics in this thread--people calling it "gay" when, I suspect, they don't actually know anything about it.

Edit: Post #33 is the correct response, and it's the one I would have written out if I had the energy. It's certainly better informed than the dumbasses posting in this thread deserve.
 

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TheDayday said:
I'm usually a lurker here, but figured I'd come out of the woods and say something when I stumbled on this topic. Saying all of that was "gay" is pretty ignorant. Submission grappling, ground fighting, Brazilian/Gracie Jiu-jitsu, or however people know it as is an aspect of fighting that a lot of the American/European population really hasn't grasped yet, probably because it's a lot more technical and difficult to understand than something like boxing.

MMA isn't something new. It dates back all the way to the Greeks with their Pankration tournaments. When MMA burst into the modern mainstream with the UFC, it was in fact very "barabaric" and that's what almost killed the sport. MMA has gone through a lot of changes over the years though. Many rules have since been implemented and official state governing bodies sanction events here in the U.S.. New York is I believe the only state that still illegalizes it, although that will probably change by the end of this year. People who don't follow the sport still think it's a "fight to the death" or "anything goes no holds barred" type of fighting. It's kind of ridiculous sometimes how ignorant people can be.

What's funny is that even though a lot of the rule changes that has further "sportified" MMA has only come about in the last decade or so... despite all that, in its 100 year history, the number of deaths and/or career ending/life-threatening injuries is only something like 2 or 3. The most recent one was from last year and the fighter who passed away, they believe he died not because of the fight but because of a developing aneurysm that the medical doctors did not catch BEFORE the fight. That one is still under investigation. The last one before that was like 5-6 years ago I think in Russia from an unsanctioned event. Compare that to other combat sports like boxing... hell compare it to non-combat sports like football and hockey.

It's funny that people call the sport "barbaric" even now because something like boxing for example is actually more dangerous and brutal. In MMA, there is absolutely nothing shameful about "tapping out" to a submission and/or you feel that you can no longer physically continue... and if the referee thinks that one fighter is no longer intelligently defending he MUST stop the fight. In boxing, you keep going until the other guy is knocked out. And even if you get knocked down, you have 10 seconds to get up... and then you keep going. "Throwing in the towel" in boxing is considered extremely shameful.

You also have to remember that boxers in the Heavyweight division for example wear 16 oz gloves. Imagine getting hit so hard in the head, that even with 16 oz of padding you still get knocked out... and if you have the misfortune of only getting knocked down, they give you 10 seconds to get back up and endure even more head trauma. Did I also forget that you go 12 rounds? In MMA even championship fights are only 5 rounds and usually 5 minutes in a lot of orgs. In smaller amateur shows, it's usually 3 rounds, 3 minutes each. They also only wear 4 oz/6 oz grappling gloves, which means that if the attacker hits with the same force as he did with 16 oz gloves he'd probably end up breaking his hand and hurting himself more than you. Without heavily padded gloves, a lot of the force gets absorbed by the attacker also, so it's just mostly superficial trauma, as opposed to boxing where it is almost all blunt trauma (which is a lot hells more serious and dangerous).

A long time ago, they used to call boxing champions the "best fighter in the world." Nowadays, for anyone who watches all combat sports, in actuality, they're the best boxer in the world. Boxing is the sport of punching. MMA is the sport of fighting... it incorporates EVERYTHING. You tell me which is more difficult to master.

Here in the states, when a fight goes to ground, people boo, holler, and jeer right away. In other places like Japan for example where the population is more heavily informed on ground fighting... they're very quiet for most of the fight and you get your oohs and ahhs when you see sweeps, beautiful transitions to submission, guard escapes, etc.. It's an art form and very enjoyable if you take the time to learn it... even more so if you go out and practice and participate.

As for the video, the man who won is Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, he is the current UFC Interim HW Champ and is a legend in the sport. Youtube his epic fight with Bob Sapp and you will understand why grappling is such an important aspect of fighting. He has an identical twin brother, named Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, who is pretty damn good also but fights at Light Heavyweight.

O.K. dude, to get back to the original point that was being made any time you have your hands all over another man's body that's kind of gay.
 
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Gig said:
O.K. dude, to get back to the original point that was being made any time you have your hands all over another man's body that's kind of gay.
I don't think you know what the word "gay" means.
 

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I earned a black belt in a karate school that essentially taught MMA.

Trust me, when you're down on the ground trying to put a dude in a choke hold or trying to keep it from happening, it doesn't feel like hugging. You're obviously engulfed in the stench of your opponent but you're still fighting.
 

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Captain Glanton said:
I don't think you know what the word "gay" means.

You don't find anything homosexual in nature about two half-naked men grappling and groping each other, because the erection in my pants says differently.
 
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PhoenixDark said:
Thanks for proving my point.

Gig said:
You don't find anything homosexual in nature about two half-naked men grappling and groping each other, because the erection in my pants says differently.
Some people get erections at the sight of women's shoes. Does that mean that shoes are fucking when you close the closet? All your post proves is that you don't have any real experience with combat sports and that you don't know what you're talking about. Being a passive consumer doesn't fucking count.

jgwhiteus said:
I think people are finding humor that to an outside observer, what is understood by the audience (and by you) to be a rather intense sport bears some striking visual similarities to gay sex, only with clothes on. It's just visual humor - nothing more, nothing less. Of course, it doesn't sound funny at all when you have to spell everything out like that.

You don't have to defend the merits of the sport (and what does this have to do with "reactionary politics"?) People post gifs here all the time of football players passing the ball "but it looks like they're having buttseckz lulz". It has nothing to do with the actual sexual orientation of the athletes or the audience.
I used the term "reactionary politics" because people are posting kneejerk reactions that have nothing at all to do with the actual sport. Frankly, I don't see any difference at all between the responses in this thread and any other where "that's gay" is used as a pejorative.

In my experience, referring to combat sports as "gay" is used to undermine the validity of the sport. That's what is happening in this thread. That's it.

Edit: If it was all in good humor, I'd like for the dipshit OP to explain what's so "half-ass" about MMA, or even just the guard position. If he can do that, then I'll take back everything I've said.
 

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Captain Glanton said:
I'm curious. What type of ground position would the 'it's gay' crowd use to avoid being submitted by an armbar or a choke, for example? How many know what the "mounting" position is actually called? I can't help but :lol at the reactionary politics in this thread--people calling it "gay" when, I suspect, they don't actually know anything about it.

Edit: Post #33 is the correct response, and it's the one I would have written out if I had the energy. It's certainly better informed than the dumbasses posting in this thread deserve.

I think people are finding humor that to an outside observer, what is understood by the audience (and by you) to be a rather intense sport bears some striking visual similarities to gay sex, only with clothes on. It's just visual humor - nothing more, nothing less. Of course, it doesn't sound funny at all when you have to spell everything out like that.

You don't have to defend the merits of the sport (and what does this have to do with "reactionary politics"?) People post gifs here all the time of football players passing the ball "but it looks like they're having buttseckz lulz". It has nothing to do with the actual sexual orientation of the athletes or the audience.
 

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When you're grabbing a man's arm and hyperextending it with the purpose of breaking it...

When an opponent gives up their back and you're hooking the legs to prevent further movement... then sneak your arms around the neck to put pressure to the carotid to stop bloodflow to the brain.

When you go from knee on belly, transition to full mount, and isolate one arm by using your weight and legs to keep the other down... and go for the americana or kimura.

When your opponent is on your guard and wants to wale away and you grab one arm just as they punch in and shrimp and triangle your legs...

You want to call it gay? I like to call it art. Yes, you actually have to "touch the opponent" to hurt him. There's no kamehamehas or hadoukens in real life. My apologies if you cannot grasped this simple concept.

How about you visit a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu gym... tell their black belt or instructor that you think iground fighting is gay and challenge him to a fight. I mean, it's a "gay" sport right? I'm sure you should have no problems taking on "gay people" who are practioners of the "gayest sport" in the world.

Get caught in an armbar and get back to me and let me know how "gay" it feels.
 

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Obviously, the people who practice/watch MMA see things differently from those that don't. The first group sees things on a much deeper level (particularly if they practice MMA) than the second. As a member of the second, i can definitely see the gayness of it.

Edit: i think some of you are taking the gay comments way too seriously. :lol
 

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Gig said:
You don't find anything homosexual in nature about two half-naked men grappling and groping each other, because the erection in my pants says differently.

They're not groping.

I've never obtained an erection while on the ground during a spar. You're too fucking busy.
 

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aoi tsuki said:
Obviously, the people who practice/watch MMA see things differently from those that don't. The first group sees things on a much deeper level (particularly if they practice MMA) than the second. As a member of the second, i can definitely see the gayness of it.

Edit: i think some of you are taking the gay comments way too seriously. :lol

AKA ignorance.

It reminds me of "too cool" angsty teenagers who look at something like Super Mario Galaxy and say, "Lulz, that game is so gay"... without even ever having played the game.
 

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Captain Glanton said:
Some people get erections at the sight of women's shoes. Does that mean that shoes are fucking when you close the closet? All your post proves is that you don't have any real experience with combat sports and that you don't know what you're talking about. Being a passive consumer doesn't fucking count.

I'm not saying it's gay for the partisapents, but for me as a consumer it's hard to ignore the homosexual undertones.
 

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Gig said:
I'm not saying it's gay for the partisapents, but for me as a consumer it's hard to ignore the homosexual undertones.

You can find homosexual undertones in anything... especially if it's something you don't understand, dont' care for, and/or don't like. I know where you're coming from, but it still doesn't change the fact that your opinion is ignorant.
 
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