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Gearbox Sues 3D Realms And Interceptor Over Newly Announced Duke Nukem Title
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Do you understand what a copyright is?
Intheflorsh
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It's not so simple, the article also mention 3D Realms were willing to compensate for damages. They probably weren't able to agree upon a settlement.
yes, it means you cant call a game what it really is.
ShadowkillXNA
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You dont think one company walking all over another's copyrights without repercussions sucks as well?
And if 3d realms or any other company thinks they have a better idea for a duke nukem game and they want to make it than they can buy the ip.
You know, like Gearbox did.
Intheflorsh
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Chip N Chance
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I don't even...
Also, people putting DNF on Gearbox is ridiculous. I have no reason to believe that it would ever get released if they didn't buy the brand. 3D Realms is a terrible studio. They didn't even remember they sold Duke Nukem, so no wonder it took them 15 years to make a game.
Considering the dev and 3D Realms sense of humour I can't help feel it's a joke
After playing I would have been fine with it never being released
Mister Chippy
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They have a bit of a habit of taking old, well liked IPs and making really, really shitty games with them (see Duke Nukem Forever and Aliens: Colonial Marines).
Most people, however, only know them from Borderlands 2, which is actually a very good game.
Also currently people are worried about the Homeworld IP, an old and well liked IP that Gearbox bought after THQ shut down. They're track record really isn't the best.
Personally I like Anthony Burch and have since before he was part of them and I think that he'll probably be able to keep them from destroying any of the games he's working on, but the rest of the company I'm indifferent about.
3DR sold the IP to gearbox for money.
Now they are trying to release a game using that ip.
You don't see anything wrong with that?
Probably not release, but develop further and then wait on it. Would love to hear the full story here but gearbox seems to be 100% in the right for protecting its ip.
Chip N Chance
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Wouldn't disagree with you there. But at least they got the brand out of limbo. Regardless of what people think of that turd.
it does boggle mind. Do they not have lawyers or something?
Nostremitus
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I'm just gonna quote this because I'm tired of seeing this duplicate threat popping up.
Ok. So when a mommy company and a daddy company form a relationship...
Hmm, I'm probably better off using the birds and the bees.
A bee may have an exclusive recipe for honey. It may not be everyone's favorite honey currently, but people have fond memories of it because it is the honey they grew up eating. The bee gets into some money troubles and is having problems producing the honey. In order to get more money quickly, the bee sells his exclusive recipe to a bird. The bird buys the recipe and the rights to exclusively make the honey from now on. So the bird gets a fancy new honey business, and the bee gets a big cash payout right now! Everyone wins.
Except for when the shady bee still goes out and tries to make honey using his old recipe. The bird gets mad because if the bee is allowed to make honey using the old recipe, then the bird paid all that money for nothing.
So who is the one in the wrong. The bird or the bee.
Hmm.. looks like somebody didn't bother actually reading the OP in his almighty quest to get first post.
So from reading the article, I can't tell if there's actually a lawsuit here. They sent a C&D a week ago, and that's it... a C&D is not a lawsuit. Now, if 3D Realms said, "Quite right, old chap, it really does belong to you" and then kept working on it anyway without any kind of licensing arrangement, then I could see a lawsuit happening. But if 3DR backs off and properly licenses the IP (assuming Gearbox will even let them at this point), then no harm done.
Neuromancer
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What the hell? When I heard about this game I figured 3DR and Gearbox had already come to some kind of agreement.
Intheflorsh
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I didn't know the op was supposed to change my opinion of gearbox
Ironically, this dupe thread now has more posts.
typical derp response
Yeah they are right on this one. Yet somehow I feel like telling them to fuck off.
They worked hard to deserve this kind of treatment from me I'll tell you that. Shit company
arts&crafts
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I loved Borderlands + Borderlands 2 so I am on Gearbox's side for more Borderlands!
Why would any developer deal with them on a license they had very publicly sold off?
I wish they would drop everything they are touching (aliens, duke nukem, homeworld) and just do borderlands.
FrostuTheNinja
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I blame the honey.
well it wasnt just that aliens was shit, but that early footage of the game had some pretty nice lighting effects that mysteriously disappeared from the final product, and gearbox boss randy pitchford got real defensive about this when asked about why the release had noticeably inferior graphics.
oh, and there is also the fact that sega hired gearbox to make the game, except they didnt actually work on it for four or so years. they worked on their own games during this time (borderlands 1/2/dnf) instead they outsourced it to another developer named timegate, but apparently timegate's ouput sucked so gearbox took it back. but by that time it had been way too long so gearbox rushed the game out and that game was what became of aliens colonial marines.
and finally gearbox boss randy pitchford is an ass and a liar.
http://playeressence.com/gearbox-pr...says-fk-response-borderlands-2-dlc-criticism/ here he gets into it with a fan over some bl2 criticism.
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/17/whats-in-a-name-gearbox-software/ here pitchford makes up a story about how gearbox got its name, involving gabe newell of all people in an elaborate lie.
jim-jam bongs
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Well I posted in the other one so it has more credibility than this imposter.
AlteredForms
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And the court rules in Interceptor's favor. "You messed it up Gearbox, you should be ashamed of yourselves."
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Wiktor
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One flop doesn't make a "habit". Because DNF wasn't really Gearbox's
xDUMPWEEDx
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As others have stated, legally Gearbox is right in this scenario.
Anyone remember that sit down interview/promo video Pitchford did for Aliens: CM? He basically spouted lie after lie for about 5 minutes. It really was pathetic after the game released and the truth was painfully revealed.
Anyone remember that sit down interview/promo video Pitchford did for Aliens: CM? He basically spouted lie after lie for about 5 minutes. It really was pathetic after the game released and the truth was painfully revealed.
KojiKnight
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Gearbox isn't at fault here... You can't sell your rights to something and then try and use it again afterwards.
And I think we can all agree, a Duke Nukem RPG is a terrible idea regardless.
at this point, its a better idea than a first person shooter.
KojiKnight
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This is also true. Honestly the best thing for Duke is to take a few years off, fall into obscurity, then show up as the next Generation or something with a new protagonist.
BibiMaghoo
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Dev may have been told that they had license for specific titles. I mean, if a publisher approaches you to make a title, it's going to be easy to just assume they have the rights for it.
Whatever the case, it's fucking lunacy. Smells fishy to me.
jim-jam bongs
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Maybe the license is carefully worded to only cover future Duke Nukem fps games? It would explain why they want to make an isometric RPG.
Intheflorsh
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Everyone should read the factual background portion, there's some interesting stuff about DNF's development.
Calavera520
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They own the rights, that's how it works.