Gears 5 Is 'Grounded in Diversity' Says Director as Players Praise LGBT, Disability Representation

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Horrible verbal assaults. Cmon man. How old are you really? Can you please try and be a grownup about this? Read the post I made above you.
 

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All I can tell you is to go outside and enjoy life, and not go out seeking this kind of shit on Twitter. Witch hunts? Dude, I don't see any fucking Witch hunts. Swatting has been going on for years and years, irrelevant of people's skin color or choice of sexuality.

Groups like antifa are bad, but on the other hand you have a group of people who feel right by shitting on people who do not share their sexuality, religion or skin color. All those extremists are bad. Don't allow yourself to fall into one of those camps either way.

Don't let yourself be influenced by such people in any way man, they will make you angry inside, boil up your angers because you see shit happening you cannot influence. You will start seeking out such news about such events, and only further deepen yourself into the hivemind that you have become a part of.

I have even seen this shit happen on GAF, where the hivemind ruled all.

Please understand I am saying this to you and anyone else in this thread. We are all humans, we should all tolerate each other. We don't all have to like eachother or agree or be of the same sexuality, religion or convictions. We all have our pains and troubles, we all go through fucking shit. That's life man! But we can also come together and enjoy things that we do share such as music, videogames, art or movies. Or any other part of life!

That's why we all came to this community of gamers, to discuss shit that we enjoy! Not to fucking argue with eachother because a company decided to include a rainbow flag that people can equip. What the fuck is wrong with rainbows? I love rainbows! They are awesome to look at. And if people of the homosexual preference choose that as a symbol for their gayness so be it, who am I to say NO YOU MAY NOT AND SHOULD NOT USE THIS SYMBOL IT IS MORAL DEPRAVITY. Who the fuck am I some kind of crazy Jack Thompson who wants to KEEP OUR CHILDREN SAFE?

Let us all calm down and try to understand one another. Once again we don't have to all agree on everything, but shit is just getting out of hand in this topic and on some parts of GAF too.

I enjoy this community, but sometimes I see this being said that I'm like what the hell man, have some goddamn respect. I'm sure we all want to be respected, but let's not try to denigrate other people because they do not share our views, sexuality, religion or conviction.

If anyone read this wall of text I hope you agree.
Oh fucking hell

It's not even been a year where I talked with a grieving father, because his child was murdered. It's not even two where I spoke with multiple people that stood before their own graves because their own families buried them symbolically because of their beliefs.

But keep talking about *respect* you hypocritical dumpsterfire. I can sure tell you where to shove it. I long for a world where we don't resort to hate and violence. But guess what? That actually REQUIRES to treat each other respectfully REGARDLESS and not for one group making it alll about themselves.
 
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I'm doing neither of those things. I'm saying they are irrelevant in regards to a straight pride flag. Actual equality means no discrimination. What you're advocating is discrimination. Now, please stop putting words in my mouth. It's a very dishonest and transparent way to argue and i'm not buying it
There's a straight pride flag now? When was this made? How can I be advocating for discrimination?

It feels like you are moving the goalpost, my friend, lol.
 

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According to the usual people here with their shitty agenda if you are white, male and straight you are just always dead wrong, a racist, a sexist and a nazi for good measure. Does that sound about right mckmas8808 mckmas8808 and ConnorDuffy1977 ConnorDuffy1977 and RyuCookingSomeRice RyuCookingSomeRice who in particular is throwing out carelessly and recklessly that someone hates gay people, which needs to be retracted.
 
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Oh fucking hell

It's not even been a year where I talked with a grieving father, because his child was murdered. It's not even two where I spoke with multiple people that stood before their own graves because their own families buried them because of their beliefs.

But keep talking about *respect* you hypocritical dumpsterfire. I can sure tell you where to shove it. I long for a world where we don't resort to hate and violence. But guess what? That actually REQUIRES to treat each other respectfully REGARDLESS and not for one group making it alll about themselves.
What the fuck? Yeah that's why I was telling you this in good faith as a friendly word of advice. Now you tell me where to shove it? And then you go on saying you long for a world where we don't resort to hate and violence?

Fuck you and your disengenous bullshit man, I was trying to be nice and giving you some friendly advice and saying this as a person who cares for this community and the people who are still around to converse about the things we enjoy.

But hey, since I'm so hypocritical ( for what exactly? I already told you we all go through our own hardships you seemed to ignore that part ) you can just go and fuck yourself then you piece of shit. I dont even care if I catch a ban for this, I was trying to be nice to you man fucking dickwad :S
 
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According to the usual people here with their shitty agenda if you are white, male and straight you are just always dead wrong, a racist, a sexist and a nazi for good measure. Does that sound about right mckmas8808 mckmas8808 and ConnorDuffy1977 ConnorDuffy1977 and RyuCookingSomeRice RyuCookingSomeRice who in particular is throwing out carelessly and recklessly that someone hates gay people, which needs to be retracted.
Do you know how to read? Do you realize what this thread is based on? Take a look at the thread title. LOOK! Now look at the post of the people I'm quoting. You see where they are the ones that seem to have an issue with what's in Gears 5?

So what needs to be retracted now?
 
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According to the usual people here with their shitty agenda if you are white, male and straight you are just always dead wrong, a racist, a sexist and a nazi for good measure. Does that sound about right mckmas8808 mckmas8808 and ConnorDuffy1977 ConnorDuffy1977 and RyuCookingSomeRice RyuCookingSomeRice who in particular is throwing out carelessly and recklessly that someone hates gay people, which needs to be retracted.
Not at all, since I'm a straight white male. But go ahead and read whatever you want to read you clown
 

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There's a straight pride flag now? When was this made? How can I be advocating for discrimination?

It feels like you are moving the goalpost, my friend, lol.
It might feel like that, but that's because you don't understand what moving the goalposts actually entails. Have you not been arguing for a gay pride flag and against a straight pride flag? Have you already forgotten what you wrote previously?

As for the discrimination - Isn't it obvious? It should be but i guess i have to explain it so
- You're for a gay pride, trans pride, bi pride and 18 made up genders pride flag
- You're against a straight pride flag
Is that clear enough for you? You're treating one group different than the others because of your own beliefs. Now, if only there was a word for that...
 

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When did I ever say that? I said that people who argue for straight pride are idiots. I'm right.
No you are not right. If Gay people can have a pride thing then whats to stop others from having a pride thing? Who are you to say what is right and what is wrong and what is allowed and not allowed?
 
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I don't care at all that there's a gay pride flag in the game. That's cool.

I care about crap statements like, "Gears of War is grounded in diversity." Motherfucker, you're playing as men with abs measured in feet who yell and grunt as they blow shit up. It's a male power fantasy and one of the stronger ones. And that's cool too, but don't try to claim the game's something else to score points.
 

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Not at all, since I'm a straight white male. But go ahead and read whatever you want to read you clown
Clown hahaa. You love just throwing out things like *YOU HATE GAY PEOPLE* ... * YOU CLOWN *. knock it off,just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them evil.
 

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I don't care at all that there's a gay pride flag in the game. That's cool.

I care about crap statements like, "Gears of War is grounded in diversity." Motherfucker, you're playing as men with abs measured in feet who yell and grunt as they blow shit up. It's a male power fantasy and one of the stronger ones. And that's cool too, but don't try to claim the game's something else to score points.
This line cracked me up. :pie_roffles:
 

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Do you know how to read? Do you realize what this thread is based on? Take a look at the thread title. LOOK! Now look at the post of the people I'm quoting. You see where they are the ones that seem to have an issue with what's in Gears 5?

So what needs to be retracted now?
Dude, you are just here to push an agenda, plain and simple. I know how to read very well, thanks.
 
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Clown hahaa. You love just throwing out things like *YOU HATE GAY PEOPLE* ... * YOU CLOWN *. knock it off,just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them evil.
Maybe if you actually read the big ass post I made on the previous page you wouldn't come across as such a dumbass I guess. Sorry just gonna call a spade a spade.
 

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No you are not right. If Gay people can have a pride thing then whats to stop others from having a pride thing? Who are you to say what is right and what is wrong and what is allowed and not allowed?
I wouldn't bother with him. The dude cites Salon.com, throws a barrage of fallacious arguments and then runs away once it doesn't work. He is the antithesis of an intelligent debater yet he seems to think he is the smart one. It's just a shame the irony is lost on him
 
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Dude, you are just here to push an agenda, plain and simple. I know how to read very well, thanks.
Actually, it seems you have trouble reading period. If you aren't here to bring up arguments, but only personal attacks, please just PM a mod with your findings instead of coming here trying to stir shit up on a personal level.
 

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Common sense. Although, it does not seem to be too common these days. Good luck with your stupid endeavor.
You sure got me champ totally. Again, you can have an opinion about this stuff and so can i but just because you say people can't have one thing and other people can have it doesn't make it the law and you are not the law.
 
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You sure got me champ totally. Again, you can have an opinion about this stuff and so can i but just because you say people can't have one thing and other people can have it doesn't make it the law and you are not the law.
I think he ( like I was ) saying is that being proud of something you have no influence over is stupid.
 

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Actually, it seems you have trouble reading period. If you aren't here to bring up arguments, but only personal attacks, please just PM a mod with your findings instead of coming here trying to stir shit up on a personal level.
I have trouble with you calling out people like it is a fact when it is not, deal with it. You are not going to push your agenda to victory by just libeling someone without proof or insulting people .
 
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I have trouble with you calling out people like it is a fact when it is not, deal with it. You are not going to push your agenda to victory by just libeling someone without proof or insulting people .
What are you even talking about dude? What fucking agenda? The only agenda I have is that we try to keep it civil, and recognise that we don't all have to agree with eachother. Maybe if you actually read my posts you would understand that.

Earlier in the thread I posted that I don't understand why people are so upset with this. If I see a gay character in a game I don't go UWEE I dont go hmm how does this make me feel NO i just shrug and Im like ok whatevs. If I see a trans/lady/dude/robot in a game I dont go uWW I dont go howw does this make me feel no I shrug it off and im like whatevs Because IT IS A GAME and it is not real and it is a fantasy so anything can happen who is to say there cant be a gay or trans guy/woman/robot whatever in some game? Does that shit make it "WOKE"? Does that make it "SJW"? No I just shrug it off and I dont think about it.

I certainly don't let myself get influenced by it. That is my agenda that I dont understand why people could be upset over some dumb bullshit fantasy shit.
 
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The only agenda I have is that we try to keep it civil, and recognise that we don't all have to agree with eachother.
Didn’t you accuse me of hating all gay people and tell me to fuck off multiple times? Please tell me more about your policy on civility.
 
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Didn’t you accuse me of hating all gay people and tell me to fuck off multiple times? Please tell me more about your policy on civility.
Oh now you wanna actually talk about the contents of my posts? Nah, that door is closed. Fuck off. You are e-harassing me. Stop stalking me, you creeper.
 
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What are you even talking about dude? What fucking agenda? The only agenda I have is that we try to keep it civil, and recognise that we don't all have to agree with eachother. Maybe if you actually read my posts you would understand that.


And who are you again and why should I care about anything you say? I already told you before that your opinion is horrendeous, and you are looking down on people for something they in fact have no choice in deciding.

I already know you hate gay folks, and told you to get over it, not get upset by seeing a gay guy or a trans guy in a game. You kept talking about how the games are forcing gender on you.

Not at all, since I'm a straight white male. But go ahead and read whatever you want to read you clown

Your agenda is to keep things civil and yet you are not following your own rules, rules for thee not me. Hypocrisy at it's worst.
 
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Wrong. It is ENTIRELY relevant. You want to know why gay people like to express pride in being gay and I pointed out that kids are still being bullied by homophobic assholes so it makes sense to spread awareness and pride.

There is no persecution of straight people happening right now so the idea of a 'straight pride flag' is irrelevant. Why are you bringing it up?
I wish there was some kind of unity or shared humanity flag, cuz we all in this together. :/
 
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Everyone bring it down a level on the personal insults, and go to the respected corners marked with your flags of choice.

Take a breather. Or, hash it out in some multiplayer?
I'm going to go play some good ole' L4D2. Zombie killing is so satisfying.
 
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Here we are, arguing about sexual orientation diversity of a video game.

A video game.

Let's let that sink in. Welcome to 2019, it's shit here.
 
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Personally, I always thought games were grounded in artistic expression and great gameplay, not whether you like a dick in your butt, but what do I know.
 

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It might feel like that, but that's because you don't understand what moving the goalposts actually entails. Have you not been arguing for a gay pride flag and against a straight pride flag? Have you already forgotten what you wrote previously?

As for the discrimination - Isn't it obvious? It should be but i guess i have to explain it so
- You're for a gay pride, trans pride, bi pride and 18 made up genders pride flag
- You're against a straight pride flag
Is that clear enough for you? You're treating one group different than the others because of your own beliefs. Now, if only there was a word for that...
I'm not arguing for or against anything. My only point is, it's stupid to get mad that people would want to display their pride in being gay, lesbian, Bi, or Trans in a game (or on their car, in their front yard, etc). Why are you trying to tell me how I feel about something?

Personally, I always thought games were grounded in artistic expression and great gameplay, not whether you like a dick in your butt, but what do I know.
So that's the only thing you think of when you hear or see the word gay or LGBT? That's weird.
 
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There have been gay video game characters going back to the 80's. Art is a reflection of life.
I knew Mario and Bowser were fucking each other. The peach thing is just a beard.

Who can forget Pacman beating hetronormality in the final stage?

As I understand it, there's no actual gay characters in Gears, just cold, corporate flags for virtue signalling.

That's pretty far away from artistic expression, and so is the whole concept of forced diversity in general.

It should be fine for a creator to make a game starring a gay man, or a straight man, based off of whatever their vision is. What isn't fine is seeing this all smooshed together in the most corporate way, for every release.

I don't need a rainbow of non-threatening, generic, inoffensive races and sexuality in every game. Nobody does. It's about vision, and in this industry more than anything, gameplay.
 

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I'm not arguing for or against anything. My only point is, it's stupid to get mad that people would want to display their pride in being gay, lesbian, Bi, or Trans in a game (or on their car, in their front yard, etc). Why are you trying to tell me how I feel about something?
You are lying to yourself and everyone else as to your agenda, you are clearly arguing that being proud of the LGBT group must be represented even in gaming but god forbid you mention you are straight, can't be proud of that!!!!! Look, when i am gaming i just want to kill you, i don't care about your orientation, i don't want to know your orientation. I just want you to know that i hate everyone equally and that i am there to have fun, get my ego on and just have a good time. I don't log onto a game to yet again be reminded of SJW culture bullshit.
 

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Then don't fucking buy it. And don't cry when other people do.
Jesus christ you are unbelievable. You would be the first in line to cry about a game that doesn't check off all your SJW quotas so take your own damn advice if a game doesn't shove all this extreme leftist propaganda down our throats.
 
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I'm not arguing for or against anything. My only point is, it's stupid to get mad that people would want to display their pride in being gay, lesbian, Bi, or Trans in a game (or on their car, in their front yard, etc). Why are you trying to tell me how I feel about something?



So that's the only thing you think of when you hear or see the word gay or LGBT? That's weird.
Let's see
Why would there be a straight pride flag given human history? Look at my examples again.......each and every one of them defines a person to some degree and says something. What does it mean to be straight? I'm straight and I can answer that question. There's not much defining us straight people in general.
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So you don't think there's been legalized discrimination against gay people in America and other countries?
That one was in response to me saying that if you should be proud to be gay, then you should be proud to be straight as well

If you don't want to give the impression that you're against something, then perhaps you shouldn't make posts that argue against it?
Not to mention that if you're ok with a straight pride flag then what are we even discussing here?
 
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You would be the first in line to cry about a game that doesn't check off all your SJW quotas so take your own damn advice if a game doesn't shove all this extreme leftist propaganda down our throats.
What game have I ever criticized for not being enough SJW? You're full of shit. I could give two shits either way.