Goodacre0081
Member
Augh..missed the Chevron skin for Gears UE. Had the stream up and everything but stepped away for a second. *gutted*
https://gearsofwar.com/en-us/esports/pax-chevron-gearsesports
edit: shit sorry, looks like they removed the page
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Gears of War 4 Beta |OT| Hello Chainsaw My Old Friend, I've Come To Rev You Up Again
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https://gearsofwar.com/en-us/esports/pax-chevron-gearsesports
edit: shit sorry, looks like they removed the page
AndyMoogle
Member
The first shot is clearly a miss.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I was enjoying this until I was matched up with wall bouncers. Now I loathe this.
Edit: We ended up winning in the end so I'm back to liking it.
Edit: We ended up winning in the end so I'm back to liking it.
I don't think the beta does, but apparently for the full-game anything you can play you can also play split-screen, but for multiplayer the frame-rate drops to 30fps.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I thought it was going to be later on. Thanks for the link.
barneystuta83
Member
So I am rank 11, played a fair few matches, and had my Gears fix for now.
What is it with the Gnasher? I was big into OG Gears and the Lancer was a legit option. I remember seeing a fair few chainsaw kills in most rounds.
Gears 2 was great also, but I didn't play so much of Gears 3. Is that when the Gnasher became OP?
I don't mind having the Gnasher, I think it makes the game different in some respects, but the Lancer is just not a viable option. At least in the matches I've played.
I've seen a handful of Chainsaw kills and barely any Lancer kills. Everything is the Gnasher or an explosive of some sort.
I will pick up Gears, not least for the campaign and a bit of multiplayer, but it won't be my goto online shooter unless they make some changes to weapon balance.
What is it with the Gnasher? I was big into OG Gears and the Lancer was a legit option. I remember seeing a fair few chainsaw kills in most rounds.
Gears 2 was great also, but I didn't play so much of Gears 3. Is that when the Gnasher became OP?
I don't mind having the Gnasher, I think it makes the game different in some respects, but the Lancer is just not a viable option. At least in the matches I've played.
I've seen a handful of Chainsaw kills and barely any Lancer kills. Everything is the Gnasher or an explosive of some sort.
I will pick up Gears, not least for the campaign and a bit of multiplayer, but it won't be my goto online shooter unless they make some changes to weapon balance.
HawksWinStanley
Member
I think gimping the stopping power was a mistake. The Lancer used to be a great option in Gears 3 especially for keeping opponents at bay when charging to pick up power weapons. It made going for the weapons a battle in and of itself. Now with the minimal stopping power you can still charge with a Gnasher or head straight for a power weapons with little risk if there is only one or maybe two opponents watching it.
What? They got rid of stopping power?
HawksWinStanley
Member
It's still there but nowhere near as effective. When you hit people straight on with it in Gears 3 they'd almost come to a complete stop. It's nothing like that now. You can pretty much always get to cover or charge through it if you're close enough in the beta.
Rifles in general are nowhere near as potent as Gears 3.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
From the Panel at Pax
Jawmuncher
Member
Are maps earn-able through play as well? It does say everything.
blue_phazon
Member
I'm guessing no cause I doubt maps come through the card system
But they're speaking in the context of the crates. Maps don't come from the crates.
Marvel
could never
Mmm, sucks to hear.
bumpkin
Member
Do the co-op TDM. It's you and wall bouncers against AI bots. Much more enjoyable and rifles aren't useless anymore.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
They need to bring back the Retro Lancer. That weapon in Gears 3 was every Gnasher player's worst nightmare. It forced pros to change up their strategy. The messages I got for using it were amazing.
blue_phazon
Member
It turns out that if you down someone behind cover, and then mantle kick their downed body, they disintegrate lol. I had to look back at the body when it happened
http://xboxclips.com/BluePhazon1337/906cbef6-d3d2-43de-9631-3114e3de0e55
http://xboxclips.com/BluePhazon1337/906cbef6-d3d2-43de-9631-3114e3de0e55
not really since it wasnt allowed in competitive play due to the fact that it was a broken overpowered weapon.
Gears is a shotgun game, everything should take a back seat to it.
I mean it makes sense if you think about how the characters boots destroy everything
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I never cared for the Gears competitive scene so that always bums me out but I'm getting a little good with the shoutgun in this beta so I can hang. I was awful in Gears 1 and 2.
HawksWinStanley
Member
I've been running into a lot of connection errors lately. Like 1/3 of my matches end in everybody running into walls and eventually disconnecting.
PeskyToaster
Member
I think I'm getting into this bets a little more. I started off not caring for it but I am enjoying myself. I need to work the new CQC stuff into my style. I think gbashers needed to be toned down to make the battles last longer. Also be ause everyone is on active 24/7. Some balancing issues.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
The Lancer does do decent damage if you stand still and far away from your opponent and unload on them. The accuracy greatly improves and each shot always hits.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Nobody stays in cover long enough for you to do it. It was never gonna be a fully realized tactic in MP. That's not how you play Gears.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Probably for the best though really.
I'd rather it be almost useless than completely broken.
PetulantChild
Banned
Yeah a little bit, but it being really difficult to actually ever do makes it all the more satisfying.
Mr.Fletcher
Member
The mantle is a great tool. Catch someone when they are concentrating on another ally and it's an easy kill. But it's very situational and the counter does make it more risk/reward than it ever was in Gears of War 3.
Which is a good thing.
Not sure if people would agree with me but I'd like to see the Yank and Shank sped up a little. It's too slow and leaves you completely open - which is again, good as it's more risk/reward.
But, as it stands, no one has the chance to use it. Most people meet another player in cover shortly before an 'Up-A' shotgun rush, no one bothers with it at the moment because it's not worth it.
That's not to say a change wouldn't ruin it, but I'd like to see them toy with it a little during the beta.
Edit: It's funny to think the former mechanic completely nullifies the latter mechanic. One is designed to keep you moving and on the offensive, the other is a punishment for getting caught out for not moving.
The new mantle means, ironically, you're less likely to take cover in front of anyone.
I suppose it plays into mind games - 'I'll wait for the vault' BAM!
Which is a good thing.
Not sure if people would agree with me but I'd like to see the Yank and Shank sped up a little. It's too slow and leaves you completely open - which is again, good as it's more risk/reward.
But, as it stands, no one has the chance to use it. Most people meet another player in cover shortly before an 'Up-A' shotgun rush, no one bothers with it at the moment because it's not worth it.
That's not to say a change wouldn't ruin it, but I'd like to see them toy with it a little during the beta.
Edit: It's funny to think the former mechanic completely nullifies the latter mechanic. One is designed to keep you moving and on the offensive, the other is a punishment for getting caught out for not moving.
The new mantle means, ironically, you're less likely to take cover in front of anyone.
I suppose it plays into mind games - 'I'll wait for the vault' BAM!
Hearing that the retro lancer was banned in competitions makes me laugh. Heaven forbid your precious shotgun meet its match, better ban it so the only viable tactic is the shotgun/bounce method!
Seriously, banning weapons is some baby-ass dorm room shit. "Hey, John is too good with the sniper so that's banned!" LOL
Seriously, banning weapons is some baby-ass dorm room shit. "Hey, John is too good with the sniper so that's banned!" LOL
Sorry mate, but you don't know gears.
Played competitive gears at a high level and trust me, lancers will lock you down.
Reason i think you say that though is the gnasher is fun as shit, everyone's go to weapon and most effective up close
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I broke a lot of spirits using the Retro. I used to roll with a dedicated Gears group that would shame me for using it. lol
Tarnpanzer
Member
How long does it take to reach level 20 in the beta? Any estimates?
BananasWithGuns
Member
Depends how good you are. I did it on the first night, about 4-5 hours or so.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
If you can consistently get kills and achieve bounties it should only take you about a day.
Barrow Roll
Member
So is the mantle kick as it was in Gears 3 and J completely gone? But you can still mantle kick downed opponents for the kill like in Gears 3 and J?
so theres a gears of war 4 ultimate edition pre order up on NZ store which gives you a season pass, some skin for del or whatever the black dudes name is plus 4 days early access to the full game lol
it says you can play on oct 7 instead of 11 4 days early if you buy that edition
didnt make pics but you can search on the NZ xbone store
maybe someone can make a thread?
edit: heres the store page
https://store.xbox.com/en-NZ/Xbox-O...r-Bundle/2af10678-fec7-4455-9b78-9cb718dfd9aa
game is also 70-70GB lol
it says you can play on oct 7 instead of 11 4 days early if you buy that edition
didnt make pics but you can search on the NZ xbone store
maybe someone can make a thread?
edit: heres the store page
https://store.xbox.com/en-NZ/Xbox-O...r-Bundle/2af10678-fec7-4455-9b78-9cb718dfd9aa
game is also 70-70GB lol
Triscuitable
Member
I put in five or six matches every night (around an hour of play every day) Was level 20 on Thursday.
Grayson Hunt is a mean cobbler.
Why add the mechanics if they pretty much guarantee death. If you're slow in gears you're dead, that's why you don't see people executing each of their kills and even if you yank there's no reason to not just shoot because of that time difference (unless they eat 😂
If the speed stays the same go from yank to knife to meat bag pickup.
The arm on the mantle is too much of a tell, you have to be able to read the opponent to dodge mantle kicks not have the most obvious slow tell
If the speed stays the same go from yank to knife to meat bag pickup.
The arm on the mantle is too much of a tell, you have to be able to read the opponent to dodge mantle kicks not have the most obvious slow tell
The mexicutioner
Neo Member
Hit level 20, claimed my rewards think I may still pop in until the end of the beta it's typical gears and I've grown to love it after the slower UE experience.
Drop shot is a welcomed addition, fits the gears style so well.
Visuals need a massive upgrade though, the game looks hilariously flat, the maps are also very boring and look like they popped out of a stock map editor.
Again it's more gears which I love but also get older less of my irl friends are still playing, most of which are on ps4 so how long I stick with it I don't know
Drop shot is a welcomed addition, fits the gears style so well.
Visuals need a massive upgrade though, the game looks hilariously flat, the maps are also very boring and look like they popped out of a stock map editor.
Again it's more gears which I love but also get older less of my irl friends are still playing, most of which are on ps4 so how long I stick with it I don't know
HawksWinStanley
Member
It's really tough to judge the beta based on the build we were given. The Gears 3 beta was fantastic but it was also a pretty much finished game at that point. This one, being a true beta, is just so rough that I'm not sure what's fair to criticize or assume will be fixed/polished before launch.
As it stands now though I just don't see this one surpassing Gears 3 as my favorite. That game was just so good, with every weapon having its place. That's probably the most disappointing part for me so far. The scaled back damage of the rifles, and especially the Hammerburst. What a joke that thing is. I enjoy the Gnasher fights as much as the next guy but when that's all there is because it's by far the deadliest weapon I just get kind of bored.
As it stands now though I just don't see this one surpassing Gears 3 as my favorite. That game was just so good, with every weapon having its place. That's probably the most disappointing part for me so far. The scaled back damage of the rifles, and especially the Hammerburst. What a joke that thing is. I enjoy the Gnasher fights as much as the next guy but when that's all there is because it's by far the deadliest weapon I just get kind of bored.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Played one game. Same old shit. No thanks.
Shotguns that are sniper rifles. Inconsistencies in everything. I shotgun a guy once then he shotguns me, then I shoot him again, then he shoots me, I die.
Get fucked.
Shotguns that are sniper rifles. Inconsistencies in everything. I shotgun a guy once then he shotguns me, then I shoot him again, then he shoots me, I die.
Get fucked.