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Doesn't work. 4ch lied to me D:
Such a shame it doesn't give you enough gems equivalent to all the money he has spent on gacha games period. It's a fake code illustrating someone's sad hatred for one of the Twitch influencers. I can't stand him either but it's kinda hilarious someone made a fake code for him.
 
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Countries that spent the most on mobile:
China - 302 million dollars
Japan - 278,3 million dollars
USA - 189 million dollars

iOS brings 65% of profits.

I'm surprised that mobile is so dominant money wise considering how many people play it on PC. I wonder if that's the reason for Sony's neglect of GI.
 

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Countries that spent the most on mobile:
China - 302 million dollars
Japan - 278,3 million dollars
USA - 189 million dollars

iOS brings 65% of profits.

I'm surprised that mobile is so dominant money wise considering how many people play it on PC. I wonder if that's the reason for Sony's neglect of GI.
Those that play on PC are probably more likely to be F2P and are more "hardcore" gamers than iOS players. iOS is usually the worst platform to play any game on if given another choice. You'll get the casual audience there that have never bumped up against gacha games and the predatory monetization, and get fully hooked by it. Plus, there's still JP and CN, where it's actually a social standing thing to be able to afford to whale in gacha, instead of a shameful thing like in the west.

Also, for all of the purchases I've made, they've all been on Google Play instead of PC, despite me playing 99% of the time on PC. Google Play has all of the built-in customer protection features and keeps me from having to give my payment info directly to anything in China. Especially MHY, whose security options have been pretty questionable from the start.
 
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I'm surprised that mobile is so dominant money wise considering how many people play it on PC. I wonder if that's the reason for Sony's neglect of GI.

I've read somewhere else... people log on mobile to buy because it's faster (I would too if I had a phone capable of running the game), then play on PC.

instead of a shameful thing like in the west.
Sadly this sentiment is changing. It's getting more and more accepted. I gamed long enough to remember the good ole days when whales were constantly shamed and they did it in secret. Better times.

Hi whales, let me tell something to you: you're harmful, pathetic and embarassing. Your only way to win at games is to pay money.

Wait, are those new?
 
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I've read somewhere else... people log on mobile to buy because it's faster (I would too if I had a phone capable of running the game), then play on PC.


Sadly this sentiment is changing. It's getting more and more accepted. I gamed long enough to remember the good ole days when whales were constantly shamed and they did it in secret. Better times.

Hi whales, let me tell something to you: you're harmful, pathetic and embarassing. Your only way to win at games is to pay money.

Wait, are those new?
Yes, the artwork for the story quests and character quests are new in the 1.4 update. Before, they just showed the characters' constellation.
 

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77 more wishes and still no gold meteorite.




Probably gonna be able to get Venti before the end, but I'm broke now. Guys, pls support my children if there's a surprise Diluc banner soon, because I'm gonna kill myself.

On a good note, though, I finally got the Dragon's Bane. I wanted it for a very long time for my XIanling. I'm actually happy.
 

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77 more wishes and still no gold meteorite.




Probably gonna be able to get Venti before the end, but I'm broke now. Guys, pls support my children if there's a surprise Diluc banner soon, because I'm gonna kill myself.

On a good note, though, I finally got the Dragon's Bane. I wanted it for a very long time for my XIanling. I'm actually happy.



i just upgraded some characters to get some free wishes i got him in standard banner i wanted a weapon.
 
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77 more wishes and still no gold meteorite.




Probably gonna be able to get Venti before the end, but I'm broke now. Guys, pls support my children if there's a surprise Diluc banner soon, because I'm gonna kill myself.

On a good note, though, I finally got the Dragon's Bane. I wanted it for a very long time for my XIanling. I'm actually happy.
Donating to the Fuz GoFundMe.
 

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Hmm, I've been saving primos for a Zhongli or Jean banner, so I should have enough for a pity soon, but it will be 50/50. Coincidently, my last 50/50 was on the original Zhongli banner and I ended up with Keqing.

I haven't pulled on the character banner since Ganyu, so I might put 30-40 wishes on the Childe banner to try for Rosaria, plus I wouldn't mind constellations for Bennett or Fischl. Then ,assuming this leak is accurate, go for pity on Zhongli's banner (Eula doesn't look all that interesting). Unfortunately, the 4 stars on the 1.5 update are either characters I don't use (Diona, Xinyan, Ningguang), already have near max constellation (Barbara), or "Don't have but don't care about" (Beidou, Yanfei).
 

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Hmm, I've been saving primos for a Zhongli or Jean banner, so I should have enough for a pity soon, but it will be 50/50. Coincidently, my last 50/50 was on the original Zhongli banner and I ended up with Keqing.

I haven't pulled on the character banner since Ganyu, so I might put 30-40 wishes on the Childe banner to try for Rosaria, plus I wouldn't mind constellations for Bennett or Fischl. Then ,assuming this leak is accurate, go for pity on Zhongli's banner (Eula doesn't look all that interesting). Unfortunately, the 4 stars on the 1.5 update are either characters I don't use (Diona, Xinyan, Ningguang), already have near max constellation (Barbara), or "Don't have but don't care about" (Beidou, Yanfei).
Bennett should be at C1. If you have C1, you can use him as is without further investments. If you really want Rosaria so much, don't waste wishes on next banner, wait for Klee's. I mean if you do believe that this leak is genuine. Personally I couldn't care less about Rosaria or EULA, so I would probably save my guarantee for Geo Lord. C0 Klee is already TOO good...
 

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Yeah it's kinda hard for me on the one hand Rosaria would get me playing again...on the other hand if I abstain and Mihoyo maybe sees a low pull rate maybe they will buff Rosaria to 1.2 Goddess.

And I can get a 2 for 1 deal with Rosaria and Klee.

I might just do that since Monster Hunter Rise is going to eat up my free time.
 

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Bennett should be at C1. If you have C1, you can use him as is without further investments. If you really want Rosaria so much, don't waste wishes on next banner, wait for Klee's. I mean if you do believe that this leak is genuine. Personally I couldn't care less about Rosaria or EULA, so I would probably save my guarantee for Geo Lord. C0 Klee is already TOO good...
Getting Zhongli is the priority in all this. Playing the late game content, it's clear how much my team comps would benefit from shields and the decrease in attack interruptions.

I have Bennett at C4, so I wouldn't mind C5 for the burst level increase, but would definitely would not upgrade to C6. I don't really want Rosaria that much, but I haven't built a new character for a while, so I wouldn't mind adding her just to have something new.

I've had Klee since her banner in October and honestly, I'm pretty tired of playing her. She's obviously powerful and she carried me through a lot of content, but sometimes you just need to switch it up, so I've been using Diluc as my pyro DPS the last couple of weeks. He doesn't have my favorite playstyle, but it's nice not needing to jump cancel animations all the time.
 

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Hard to enjoy this dungeon event with this stupid rng(whose retards keep giving this idea).
Most of them are fun but once I don't get the challenge I have to go all over again in the hope the rng pick the event I want again. This hurts the challenges way too much, not to mention forces the player to play an event he/she might not like.
They really should rethink their approach. If the event was selectable, would be more healthier.
 
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No "leak banner" is preventing me from pulling on Childe/Rosaria. I was kinda hoping they put Lanfei and Eula on the same banner so I could go for that one next, but if it's a selection between the two I might just pass on both and save up. I'm sure I'll get lots of the 4* eventually no matter what.

Hard to enjoy this dungeon event with this stupid rng(whose retards keep giving this idea).
Most of them are fun but once I don't get the challenge I have to go all over again in the hope the rng pick the event I want again. This hurts the challenges way too much, not to mention forces the player to play an event he/she might not like.
They really should rethink their approach. If the event was selectable, would be more healthier.
I just hate how I always get the same 3 events. Even RNG seems suspect for this. I literally haven't done a run of the dungeon yet that I didn't get the falling flowers one. I usually get it, the bubble uphill run, and the falling floor. Over and over. I just want to get some of the other games that are tied to those acheivements.
 
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I've had Klee since her banner in October and honestly, I'm pretty tired of playing her.

I've been using Diluc as my pyro DPS the last couple of weeks



Getting Zhongli is the priority in all this. Playing the late game content, it's clear how much my team comps would benefit from shields and the decrease in attack interruptions.
C6 Noelle can keep you safe. Unfortunately you can't run duplicates in the Abyss...

Monster Hunter Rise
Game, that MiHo can steal a lot from. I hope they will xD Well, except for timers. MH can keep the fucking timers.



I was kinda hoping they put Lanfei and Eula on the same banner so I could go for that one next, but if it's a selection between the two I might just pass on both and save up. I'm sure I'll get lots of the 4* eventually no matter what.
If we talk eventually, then eventually we will probably get 90% of 5☆. MiHo and playerbase seems totally OK with heavy reliance on reruns. Sure, it can take years, but as you said, eventually...
 
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New quest is pure gold lol

-Hi, I'm Venti, I'm a bard.
-Hi, I'm Albedo, I'm an alchemist!

-Hi, you couple of lying piece of shits!

Epic battle of con artists lol.

Anyway, I'm glad that MiHo took the criticism from the New Year event seriously and put actual heroes in the new event. China must be extra salty after its "date with Xiao".
 

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Game, can you please stop walling me off from your event quests just because a character is stuck in another quest I abandoned? Shouldn't be too hard to do a work around for that...

I wish Peculiar Wonderland didn't have a boss fight at the end, but whatever. It's not too difficult.
 

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I wish Peculiar Wonderland didn't have a boss fight at the end, but whatever. It's not too difficult.
Once I totally forgot about boss fight at the end and picked lvl 50 character. Needless to say, it was one and only failed mission I had during this event lol I'm also constantly nagging Venti owners to actually use his skills during mini games, but most people have no idea how/when/why... ;(
 
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This event is how it should be done. It involves all characters from the region so even if the quests are again fetch quests it is nice to see the characters interact with each other.
The minigames are kind of half-assed.
I would like them otherwise.
The free fall is plagued by horrible, buggy turning controls. In the musical one you can't rebind the keys, which moves this from "enjoyable" to "fucking chore", and with wide monitors is a fucking pain. Shooting range is the best, most enjoyable of the lot - by far.

Anyway, Venti is super fucking fun to play. I was kind of getting bored with the game, and now I'm back to cursing resin and the lack of unexplored zones.
Or maybe it's just the gambler's high.
 
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The minigames are kind of half-assed.
I would like them otherwise.
The free fall is plagued by horrible, buggy turning controls. In the musical one you can't rebind the keys, which moves this from "enjoyable" to "fucking chore", and with wide monitors is a fucking pain. Shooting range is the best, most enjoyable of the lot - by far.

Anyway, Venti is super fucking fun to play. I was kind of getting bored with the game, and now I'm back to cursing resin and the lack of unexplored zones.
Or maybe it's just the gambler's high.

I hate musical rhythm minigames with a passion no matter which game they show up in. The archery one is good as I have Ganyu and the gliding one is not bad. I've always liked gliding in GI and in PS5 the controls are fine so I am good with it and actually liked the last gliding event we got.

Venti is broken. I got my Venti to lvl 80 and gave him a lvl 90 R5 Stringless and now the game changed from easy to very easy in WL8 as long as the enemies are small/medium sized. I open with his ult and by the time it finishes my next ult is up. His skill also does heavy damage on hold and also takes you out of any danger from any ground based shockwaves (Geo hypo, Electro hypo, Oceanid etc. look like an idiot doing ground wave attacks while I hang in the air).
 
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I hate musical rhythm minigames with a passion no matter which game they show up in. The archery one is good as I have Ganyu and the gliding one is not bad. I've always liked gliding in GI and in PS5 the controls are fine so I am good with it and actually liked the last gliding event we got.

I'm the same, rhythm games are not for me. But I was willing to give a try just for the rewards.
But since they don't seem to care to fix this crap, I won't bother touching it. If the only fix they can give me is using the default controls(which is not a fix), then I'm better off wasting my time either doing other stuff or not participating at all.
 
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I'm the same, rhythm games are not for me. But I was willing to give a try just for the rewards.
But since they don't seem to care to fix this crap, I won't bother touching it. If the only fix they can give me is using the default controls(which is not a fix), then I'm better off wasting my time either doing other stuff or not participating at all.

I was furious when they changed Atlantica into a musical world in Kingdom Hearts 2 and GoW 3 had a rhythm based puzzle. Good thing is that in GI the max points reward is mere mora so people can skip it and not feel bad about it.
 

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Can't believe I more hyped about the plot. Is traveler brother gonna show up in the time he receive the award?

Jean whining about Lisa really give us a taste of putting all chars at once can be.
 

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Once I totally forgot about boss fight at the end and picked lvl 50 character. Needless to say, it was one and only failed mission I had during this event lol I'm also constantly nagging Venti owners to actually use his skills during mini games, but most people have no idea how/when/why... ;(
I did that on the two stone hilichurl bosses and deeply regretted it. Minigames are really easy with Venti, yeah.

Lyre game is EZ as a Osu and Project Diva player.
 
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Wow, peculiar wonderland is a super boring grind; these mini games should've been fast switching style like warioware.
 

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Man it's hard for me to keep going on this peculiar wonderland thing. Just like the tower defense thing in Liyue, they make you do it too much. It's fun for a little while, but it stops being fun after you have to do it again and again and again. I tried switching it up and doing it with randoms earlier, that was kinda fun.

I hope the last phase lets us pick our minigames. I still have a handful of achievements I need to do and they're in games I almost never get.
 
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It's kinda lazy how they have two challenges that involve running up a lane while avoiding bubbles. There's also two with hidden paths. The one where flowers fall from the sky is rather boring as well. I think they could've put more thought into this event. Think of all the stuff they could do with elemental reactions, or with the Samachurls' spells for challenges like this. I also think it'd be more interesting if you were competing with other players, rather than working towards the same goal. You can't really assist each other, after all.

Anyway, now that I'm playing a lot of Monster Hunter, I appreciate that I don't have to play GI for hours everyday to maximize my resources. GI works better as a 'secondary' game, I think.
 
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The RNG on the Peculiar Wonderland is irritating. For phase three, I needed to play 9-10 times before getting the "one way traffic" game to come up, which I needed to complete in 40 sec for the reward achievement. You only get ticket rewards for completing in 4 times, so it just feels like a waste.

Doing these mini games makes it really hit home that GI is still a mobile game at its heart and a lot of the mechanics and lack of difficulty stem from that.
 

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It's kinda lazy how they have two challenges that involve running up a lane while avoiding bubbles.
Pro tip - you can actually squeeze between bubbles with your dash. And Hu Tao ignores bubbles and just teleports past them xD


The RNG on the Peculiar Wonderland is irritating. For phase three, I needed to play 9-10 times before getting the "one way traffic" game to come up, which I needed to complete in 40 sec for the reward achievement.
RNG was a mistake, yeah. For example I miss just 1 challenge (invisible floor one) and I'm not gonna waste my time trying to get 2 silver books worth of 20 resin lol


All in all, event was incredible for me and my Cocogoat. Cleared all wonderland and open world challenges in 1 go and already emptied event store. Took around 1 hour for each day challenges. Waaaaay better than stupid tower defense that required clear after clear after clear. I'm genuinely enjoyed this event and can rate it 8 out of 10. Tower defense was a strong 5 lol.
 

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Told yah. Putting rng on every fucking thing, including activities that are supposed to be light heart fun, only spoils the enjoyment. Whoever keep giving this idea have to go away from this game.

If I could choose the events I want, I would be playing this event much more.
 

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Whoever keep giving this idea have to go away from this game.
For some reason they want to prolong your stay in the event challenges without giving any bonuses worthy of your time if you're already cleared most stages. MiHo should give some rewards for people who are replaying stages. Maybe limit it with something like "first 10/20/30 clears gives you additional purple books".