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Geoff Keighley: Scorpio rumored to cost $499 (he's right, flawless victory)
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There is honestly no reason to let this leak.
Why is someone so "respected" willing to risk it all with a leak like this for internet fame? It's career suicide as he looses all trust and integrity.
Why would Microsoft market like this ? It's amateurish and a cheap shot.
I'm stumped it makes zero sense from both parties.
Why is someone so "respected" willing to risk it all with a leak like this for internet fame? It's career suicide as he looses all trust and integrity.
Why would Microsoft market like this ? It's amateurish and a cheap shot.
I'm stumped it makes zero sense from both parties.
sems4arsenal
Member
That's one advantage the Pro will have, the difference in price between the base is much less huge.
They are selling the PS4 Slim for less than EUR 200 now. The system is destroying the Xbox One over here, but Sony wants to get a large user base as they want to sell more games (thus get licensing revenue) and sell more PS+ subscriptions.
Okay so by that logic, add a copy of Windows, keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, etc.
Calm Mind
Member
A shame the mainstream audience isn't buying it.
But that teaser was probably a random image. I mean obviously it was. I knew it was bullshit because bing.com didn't come up with that image.
Officerrob
Banned
Hawk269
Member
Some of the replies to the $499.99 price point are those that did not want to listen when Phil was banging the drum about it being a premium product. I think there are those that didn't give a shit regardless of the price point and then there are those that always felt and believed what Phil was saying when he talked about it being a premium console.
I don't think $499.99 is bad for what you get. Of course $399.99 would be better for more mainstream appeal, but I don't think that is the point of this console. Phil has always said that they know the Xbox One S will be the leading sales console for them and that the Scorpio was made for those that wanted a premium experience.
I don't think $499.99 is bad for what you get. Of course $399.99 would be better for more mainstream appeal, but I don't think that is the point of this console. Phil has always said that they know the Xbox One S will be the leading sales console for them and that the Scorpio was made for those that wanted a premium experience.
It happens because of both.
That market barely exists on consoles. If you're a graphics enthusiast, you're likely a PC gamer. $500 is simply too much for a console, especially a mid-gen upgrade.
At $500, this will sell badly. Simple as that. And no, Microsoft has not been hyping this up for over a year to have it only sell to a very small "enthusiast" market. It doesn't matter how many times they call it "premium," they want it to be more than niche.
Also, I think people are going to be very disappointed if they're expecting most games to blow away what is seen on the Pro. Microsoft's own games? Sure. But no, I don't think third parties are going to put in the effort to make people think that $500 is a logical price.
Someone on the first page of this thread mentioned Destiny 2 as a reason to buy it, despite the terrible price. Destiny 2 is going to be the same damn thing on Pro and Scorpio. It won't magically be 60fps and the graphics will be marginally better, if not the same.
I would love to be wrong on all this, trust me. If Destiny 2 looks like the PC version on Scorpio, that changes everything. But it won't.
Deaf Spacker
Memb
$499 wouldn't be a surprise considering the power in the thing.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
It's a premium device $499 it is a fair price
Pro will easily be $349 by the time this thing releases, if not $299.
Imagine Sony going for the 1-2 punch at $199 slim/299 pro.
Khaos Kontrol
Banned
Here are the scenarios at play here:
1. Geoff is in cahoots with Microsoft and they asked him to leak the $499 price so when they announced it for $399 it has a greater impact.
2. The price is actually $499 and Geoff's leak is accurate.
3. Geoff heard from somewhere that it is $499, but he's just wrong and it's $399.
1. Geoff is in cahoots with Microsoft and they asked him to leak the $499 price so when they announced it for $399 it has a greater impact.
2. The price is actually $499 and Geoff's leak is accurate.
3. Geoff heard from somewhere that it is $499, but he's just wrong and it's $399.
Jason Schreier and a number of others have already chimed in expressing concern about the price and market. A few other journalists seem to be confirming $499 is what they are hearing too.
It sounds like the general consensus is that if this isn't a 60 FPS 4k power machine for just about everything that its not gonna do well at all.
Nobody expects that to be the case, at least not with 3rd parties.
It sounds like the general consensus is that if this isn't a 60 FPS 4k power machine for just about everything that its not gonna do well at all.
Nobody expects that to be the case, at least not with 3rd parties.
I already have a gaming PC. With a monitor that c pats more than a lot of gaming PCs. I'm getting the Scorpio at 499 so i can play all third party games on the superior hardware on my preferred platform of the last 13 years.
Hugh Swank
Member
I was guessing $449.....$499 doesn't bother me, still day one.
CJY
Banned
At 499, the market is going to be pretty much saturated within the first couple of weeks. The tail on anything premium + premium priced in gaming is extremely short
I don't buy it. It'll be 399. Maybe I'm in denial, but I get the distinct impression that Microsoft wants to SHOCK people with a 399 price like Sony did with the OG PS4. I'm really just not buying it. I really don't doubt that that would be the price stated in rehearsals to avoid leaks.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
It bothers me more than $499 to TBH. Personally I can't see anything in the internal HW that would warrant it needing to be $499 but then maybe it is has a premium all aluminium casing and Microsoft believe they have a stunning SW line up?
People who feel this way need to realize that Scorpio is not targeted at them.
EventHorizon
Member
Bold part is magical thinking.
1. Make an expensive console
2. Low ball your price because...reasons
3. ???
4. Profit
TheDarkKnight774
Member
I consider $399 a premium product price. Just like the Pro was priced last year
Dash_Riprock
Member
Nah that makes to much sense.
Lol yeah it's pretty comical. E3 is really the most wonderful time of the year.
Yearsoflurking
Member
i agree. thiis thing is going to well to xbox fans regardless. let's be honest the xbox one is incredibly underpowered this is basically a new gen for them. they'll lower it once sales stall if its 499
CrimsonGun
Member
The average consumer doesn't look at consoles as first place or second place machines. That's what fanboys think like. The average consumer will simply ask for the most powerful console. Which will be the Scorpio.
I think you underestimate Xbox buyers. This sucker will be a huge seller the first month out. The faithful will trade in or just buy it outright. MS didn't expect the Elite controller to sell as well as it did. I wouldn't be surprised if it sells close to a million the first month it's out.
dead souls
Member
Damn, this thing is going to flop if it's $500.
Willing to bet that "Something will change" today...? 
IMHO this is a diversionary tactic instilled by MS to get their Mic Drop moment during their conf.
I don't own an XB1 and don't intend to enter MS ecosystem but I'll eat my hat if they don't announce it at 399 during the show
IMHO this is a diversionary tactic instilled by MS to get their Mic Drop moment during their conf.
I don't own an XB1 and don't intend to enter MS ecosystem but I'll eat my hat if they don't announce it at 399 during the show
Unless it was intentional. "Leak" a price higher than what the system will actually be to lower expectations, then when you reveal the cheaper price during the conference, everyone is even more blown away and feels it's a better value proposition.
Honestly though I think a $499 price would be justified given the hardware inside this system.
Which means it was an intentional leak for early damage control to help not ruin the conference.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Boom.
Ebenezer Grymm
Banned
Something seems off here.
Two models maybe, or some kind of added.... something we're not aware of yet. Maybe it's a Windows box and they have to price it to compete in the console space but also not piss off laptop/desktop makers.
I don't think $499 is terrible, just not what I was expecting.
Two models maybe, or some kind of added.... something we're not aware of yet. Maybe it's a Windows box and they have to price it to compete in the console space but also not piss off laptop/desktop makers.
I don't think $499 is terrible, just not what I was expecting.
The average consumer asks for which console is the cheapest that plays the game they want to play.
Bioshocker
Member
They're not? Xbox One S is fine. Not stellar, not fantastic. But fine. Scorpio was never going to turn the tide for Xbox this generation, it's way too late for that. It's not going to do what Kinect did for Xbox 360 or anything. What it can do, however, is maybe attract some third parties to the Xbox brand by giving them the opportunity to release their games on the most powerful console. "Best on Scorpio".
IchigoSharingan
Member
People want consoles to have PC-esque performance at unreasonable prices since the days of the cave drawings.
Oh boy.
actually they ask for the cheapest and with games they want.
Pattycakes
Banned
It's definitely $499. Geoff wouldn't hurt his credibility giving false info. It's a win-win for him, he gets to break the news, and Microsoft can gently soften the blow of the price point before the conference.
Hawk269
Member
Why would they need to rehearse a price point portion? I mean, if you cant remember a price when giving a presentation, you should not be in this business.