MilkyJoe
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Especially when there is a cheap model on the market that perfectly fits their fiscal needs. What it is people want something but don't want to pay for it.
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Geoff Keighley: Scorpio rumored to cost $499 (he's right, flawless victory)
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Especially when there is a cheap model on the market that perfectly fits their fiscal needs. What it is people want something but don't want to pay for it.
Nah. Fuck that. I hope Sony and MS always has a upper tier console for those who want it.
Jaguar Victory
Member
Respectfully disagree. Forza looked amazing. That's all running at 60fps. Weather and everything. Looked amazing to me.
Uno Venova
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As long as they're smart enough to have a console that's not past the barrier sure, I don't really care about the upper tier.
There is no need for that this summer. X1X will arrive on Nov7, almost six months from now.
I see it becoming $50 cheaper in October, together with some ps4 exclusive (GTSport for example).
NoctisVsStar
Member
Being emotionally invested in a company is weird.. one thing is that you support their products cause you like them but holding up a shield is just too much lol
Enh, it's tribalism. Some people have rival sports teams, others have rival religions, still others have comic book companies, and a lot of people in the USA have rival political parties, so consoles ain't no big stretch.
hardcastlemccormick
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Given the specs (RX 480-580 performance and a big bump in RAM), $499 is just about what I'd expect - slightly less than a comparable PC but with a nicer form factor. The 4K performance matches up with what I've seen my PC do when I bother cranking the resolution up that high, and it does look great.
That price won't age well though, I'd expect PC components to outclass the Xbox One X in less than a year and it won't be long before PC players are running 40/30 ultra on even budget ($500 or less) boxes. I suspect Microsoft will be aggressive and push the X heavily as the default Xbox by holiday of 2018, with a better price to match.
Will be curious to see how it plays out.
That price won't age well though, I'd expect PC components to outclass the Xbox One X in less than a year and it won't be long before PC players are running 40/30 ultra on even budget ($500 or less) boxes. I suspect Microsoft will be aggressive and push the X heavily as the default Xbox by holiday of 2018, with a better price to match.
Will be curious to see how it plays out.
Yup. I do remember now the Scorpio was compared to a gaming PC before the DF reveal of the specs. Now we see why.
If someone was seriously thinking about getting a gaming PC, the One X isnt a bad choice. Me? I want a PC for more than gaming.
Part of the problem may have been the way its been hyped. I said this before...MS was treating this like its their next gen with all the attention they were giving it. Compare that to Sony who basically just threw the Pro out there and said here you go....
But....just like the Elite controller, just like the Pro this is a niche product. This was never meant to replace the One S.
I forgot what thread this was until I saw this...lol.
Legendary status. No conference after can top this thread. Sony' and Nintendo's s will pale in comparison.
Shifty1897
Member
Curious, did you think it would be more or less expensive? To me, this thing screamed $499 from the get go. I think I said as much on GAF last week. If you thought it would have been more money, I could believe it, but I don't understand the people who thought this thing was going to be $400.
Sony does. It's $399.
RichiRamjag
Member
It's foolishness. I have preferred teams and all that, but I've never cared enough about what anyone else likes in comparison to my personal preferences.
BobTheFork
Member
It doesn't need one, why would they? If the pro was 500 then yeah it would be getting a price drop, but I don't know why you would drop price when your competition just came in 100 higher than you.
They can continue to make whatever they were making AND still be 100 cheaper.
I don't think it was totally unreasonable to think that $399 was the price, but it did mean that Microsoft was going back to the mindset of "We don't care about being taken to the cleaners financially with a pretty hefty loss on sales."
I think it was just people overestimated how badly MS wanted to "win" the console war, since the only way they could keep it at that price was to take a loss. Which, to be fair, had actually been pretty standard practice for most console makers except Nintendo. But now both Sony and MS no longer share that sentiment. I think a lot of people were hoping MS still did, but now it's clear they're not willing to go that far anymore.
Basically not much at all. But it sounds cool so they can use it as a reason for the higher price.
The Xbox One X will always be significantly more expensive to produce than the Xbox One S. The 192bit interface with the 12GB Ram will always be more expensive. Same goes for the cooling.
I don't think that's the case for the pro. So I think if anyone Sony will phase out the base model, but tbh overcharging for the high end model and putting that money in the base model's price will be very attractive for both.
Basically not much at all. But it sounds cool so they can use it as a reason for the higher price.
Are you sure? Labor and defects have to be higher if the cooling becomes a delicate affair.
Basically not much at all. But it sounds cool so they can use it as a reason for the higher price.
If bulk savings lowers the cost, Sony should definitely go for that and use the power and heat savings for making a powerful PS5, atleast IMO.
Good luck with inflation.
Theonik
Member
Sadly inflation doesn't mean much when it comes to market pricing.
Especially when you consider income stagnation for middle income consumers.
Prices for many luxury goods are effectively getting squeezed.
Theonik
Member
lolno
A week of work for the average American would sound more realistic if we're talking about a 500$ console.
Then the consoles will continue to get weaker.
Gaz Pwnage
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What? $500 a day? For the average worker. Use ur brain dude.
Dyson Industries
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Theonik
Member
Less cutting edge anyway. But we are moving to most electronics being commodities anyways. And long gone are the days of expensive consoles using exotic tech.
Consoles /are/ getting cheaper.
PeskyToaster
Member
You'd need six figures for one day but two days is definitely doable by a standard American worker. At $25 dollars an hour or $52,000 a year you're getting $200 dollars a day. Problem is this is pre-tax so your take home can be quite a bit less.
Possibly. I think that is where the $399 train of thought comes from. Competitive, sales, win the market back. But I guess when they said it was a premium product for the premium market, they meant it.
Uno Venova
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Good luck to them lol. They're the one's who will be struggling if the next generations entry is higher than 400. They don't have a choice.
Damn lol, and I'm in there twice too.
I'll take my double serving of crow now pls.
Dash_Riprock
Member
Fanboys always hear what they want to hear. MS announces the Scorpio, boasts "Most Powerful Console Ever!" and immediately they want to believe that this is a fresh start for Xbox, essentially a reset button. Even when Microsoft clarifies what Scorpio in later interviews, all fanboys heard was the initial announcement.
Think back to the Chalkboard "__ will save Xbox One!" meme. Its a meme that deliberately pokes fun at this fanboy mentality to latch on to any and all new announcements as a potentially game-changing new development that will propel their console back on top and allow them to be smug about it.
The really sad thing is even at $399 I don't see the XboneX having much if any impact. Both PS4 and One S will be $250 this holiday season, possibly as low as $200 with Black Friday deals.
A $400 double dip can't do anything about that, especially with no exclusive games on it.