It's so sad that Yoshifumi Kondou met an early death. People talk about how Yonebayashi could take the reins, and in fairness I have yet to see Marnie, but to me Arrietty has nothing on Whisper of the Heart - Arrietty just lacks that something special that great Ghibli films are made of. WotH, on the other hand, is my favourite slice-of-life Ghibli film by far. The rest I found boring.
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Ghibli production department facing shutdown, will take a break and consider future
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Leafhopper
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Yeah. I saw Frozen later then everyone else. Going from Frozen to the Wind Rises in the same week was an eye opener for me. I really do think Ghiblis style is superior, and it depresses me to no end to see such a drastic shift to CGI. I have no issue with CGI, it can be beautiful. But I really wish it wasn't the dominant style. :/
PRjumpman124
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I feel empty.
SporeCrawler
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yes. I am basing my Yonebayashi comments on marnie only. I agree that Arrietty was weak in comparison to many of the great Miyazaki classics.
Marnie though may be up there with Howl, Mononoke, Nausicaa, Laputa and Sen to chihiro.
illmatic22
Banned
FUCK :-(
I have been tired of CG films for a long time, I still enjoy them but they don't have the same effect on me as traditional 2D animation does.
SporeCrawler
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those are different films.
Wind Rises obviously has much more details and you can really see the love and labour put into each screen.
with frozen however you have a better marketable (and less controversial) story and characters and an arguably better soundtrack.
Wind Rises isnt a right wing war anime however I think miyazaki was naive to think that people wouldnt criticize the movie to the ground for the subject it covers.
its also amazing how fast CG films age. A bugs life or toy story nowadays looks horribad. Nausicaa which is about 10 years older still look great.
JennyTablina
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When I heard Poppy, Wind, Kaguya and Marnie were all flopping, I was starting to wonder if this would happen.
The good news is that the company isn't being simply wrapped up, it's just going to a state of hypersleep I guess? The rest of the world has yet to get Kuguya and Marnie, so Ghibli will have some cashflow from the cinema and home video releases of those (not to mention all the other Ghibli films)
But yeah, Ghibi also has the problem that...2D animation is a quickly shrinking field in general. While I'm sure they have some young blood (Ocean Waves was done entirely by their at-the-time rookie team as I recall?) - there's less and less people who study traditional animation or are even up to the level Ghibli would be looking for.
I really liked Poppy Hill (and it felt like a triumph for Goro Miyazaki after the whole mess with Earthsea) and while Wind wasn't quite up my alley, it is an emotional tour de force. If Marnie is the endgame. I think...that's kind of okay? It's sad, but at the same time, Ghibli lived up to it's full potential in a number of ways. If they haven't the talent or confidence in whatever was proposed prior to this, better to pass up till a new passionate lot comes in.
There will be other people who will use the medium to do amazing things, this isn't the end
The good news is that the company isn't being simply wrapped up, it's just going to a state of hypersleep I guess? The rest of the world has yet to get Kuguya and Marnie, so Ghibli will have some cashflow from the cinema and home video releases of those (not to mention all the other Ghibli films)
But yeah, Ghibi also has the problem that...2D animation is a quickly shrinking field in general. While I'm sure they have some young blood (Ocean Waves was done entirely by their at-the-time rookie team as I recall?) - there's less and less people who study traditional animation or are even up to the level Ghibli would be looking for.
I really liked Poppy Hill (and it felt like a triumph for Goro Miyazaki after the whole mess with Earthsea) and while Wind wasn't quite up my alley, it is an emotional tour de force. If Marnie is the endgame. I think...that's kind of okay? It's sad, but at the same time, Ghibli lived up to it's full potential in a number of ways. If they haven't the talent or confidence in whatever was proposed prior to this, better to pass up till a new passionate lot comes in.
There will be other people who will use the medium to do amazing things, this isn't the end
Just watch them all, there aren't all that many Ghibli movies to begin with.
SporeCrawler
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Nausicaa and Mononoke Hime immediately come to mind
ЯAW;123850061 said:
20 movies... thats quite a number
chicagocubsfan
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This blows.
MikeHattsu
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The Wind Rises didn't exactly flop...
kiki's delivery service and my neighbor totoro
Pretty much any of them outside of Ponyo, Poppy Hill and one or 2 others. I can't speak for any of the last 3 Ghbili films as I have yet to see them.
Yup, but $117M is low for Hayao, considering his last three movies made +$200M.
SporeCrawler
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ponyo is a good movie if you like the cutesey ghibli style (like totoro)
JennyTablina
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All of them are pretty good in their own way (bar Earthsea, which was an absolute mess and turned out incredibly mediocre) but the must-see's for me;
Princess Mononoke
Kiki's Delivery Service
Naussicca (it's a bit mary sue storywise, but man it's pretty!)
Whisper of the Heart
My Neighbor Totoro
Ponyo
SporeCrawler
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yah gedo senki (earthsea) can be ignored easily.
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yes but is still one of the highest grossing japan produced film of all times.
I don't think anything has changed since Mr. Suzuki commented those plans in early-July, and at that time he just mentioned changes that imply different methods of production for the future but not ceasing at it.
Also, Mr. Takahata hasn't said anything about a retirement recently, only about how it all depended on the willingness of the studio to entrust him another work... we can't count him out yet!
Cloud Strife
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Wtf?! Marnie flopped?!? What's been going on??
Totaly a Duder
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I think it's better this way.
They were too good to be in this era.
They were too good to be in this era.
That's true, no questions there, but Ghibli probably was counting on the film making more. Or maybe not since the subject of the movie was heavy.
MasterOfPastures
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It's sad news, but not so much. The studio has not been making the memorable films that it used to make. The tradition of excellent hand-drawn japanese films lives on with Hosoda. Wolf Children is the best animated film since Spirited Away, and a good way to pass the torch.
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Except it's soundtrack. It's best one of all Ghibli films.
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Except it's soundtrack. It's best one of all Ghibli films.
SporeCrawler
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kaguya hime was the first movie from takahata since the yamadas (1999). pompoko which is the movie before that (and one of my favorites is from 1994)
ЯAW;123850943 said:
they would be stupid to think that the movie has mass media appeal. The controversy around WW2 probably did help the film a bit but overall its a theme that is not really suited for kids (which is still the main target for anime).
Also, obligatory from the documentary on Ghibli:
Such is life, I'm on the side of 'pause' for now, but it's only a name. There'll be new names who'll carry the torch.
Fuck, to me, Ghibli was the last truly great animation studio out there, end of an era for sure. Traditional animation is as good as done outside of television and direct-to-video. :'(
What the hell?
Why is this so sad and incredibly badass at the same time.
Also, obligatory from the documentary on Ghibli:
What the hell?
Why is this so sad and incredibly badass at the same time.
SporeCrawler
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while wind rises doesnt explicitely shows it that much the death toll that is hinted at in that movie is much higher than any ghibli film to date (duh...)
that said i think it was a good decision not to explicitely show too much battles in that film as it was about a person who worked on the "homefront" if you will.
that said i think it was a good decision not to explicitely show too much battles in that film as it was about a person who worked on the "homefront" if you will.
Fattony12000
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First Studio Ghibli film I ever saw in a cinema...
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Samurai_Heart
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freakzilla149
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So sad 
I hope they do find a new inspiration, hibernation may be better than trying to survive on flops. I hope the hibernation isn't to tough.
I hope they do find a new inspiration, hibernation may be better than trying to survive on flops. I hope the hibernation isn't to tough.
Disney allowed its own animation studio to close, so I would say no.
IdreamofHIME
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Been over a decade since I really enjoyed something from them.
Their legacy is going no where, but at least there's now less chance of more stuff like Ponyo getting made.
Their legacy is going no where, but at least there's now less chance of more stuff like Ponyo getting made.
InfiniteBento
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Big Chungus
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Will this affect production of the studio ghibli blurays in north america?
What English sites? The only two major ones are Crunchyroll and Anime News Network. Scott Green probably can't find the news unless it's handed to him translated on a silver platter. ANN is probably busy mulling over whether or not to pretend to be journalist and find more facts than screenshots and tweets... or missed it. They aren't all that good at finding news on their own, it was on yaraon though... As for Spanish sites, 2 are parroting Koi-nya, who are copy pasting a Japanese blog? If non-JP sites report it, doesn't make it more/less true, none are particularly good.
Headsteyker
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A era of pure Magic end with them.
This is so sad. I'm gonna start crying again.
My top 3 fave Ghibli movies are:
I hope that one day I could draw as good as Miyazaki, but for now, I'll keep practicing.
Good bye Studio Ghibli, you were amazing.
My top 3 fave Ghibli movies are:
- Kiki's Delivery Service. It's a story about coming of age for a young little witch. She traveled to a new town, learn new things, make friends with the friendly townsfolk. There's no real antagonist in the whole movie, and everyone is friendly. Such a warm and heartfelt movie, that I watch it again almost every year.
- The Wind Rises. It's about a guy who poured his everything into what he loves, plane and his wife. Jiro's obsession to creating a plane while standing against flow of time, is almost like Miyazaki's obsession in creating his works while other animations becoming more and more cookie cutter, more and more computerised. It's almost like Miyazaki and Hirokoshi Jiro are telling us, not to be afraid of going against the flow, pour everything into what you love.
- Only Yesterday. It's just about an adult woman reminiscing her past, and learning how to be true to her self. Such a simple and mundane movie, but it feels closer than anything else.
I hope that one day I could draw as good as Miyazaki, but for now, I'll keep practicing.
Good bye Studio Ghibli, you were amazing.
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