http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/unprofessional-fridays-020113/2300-7008/
I think it's this one
Edit: I'm too slow
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http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/unprofessional-fridays-020113/2300-7008/
I think it's this one
Edit: I'm too slow
I can't understand why Jeff had any expectations of Bethesda improving under this generation of consoles just because the hardware they were working with had.
Bethesda have long demonstrated they don't really give a shit about doing anything but what they've been doing, which is make the same sort of game to widespread commercial success; Brad sort of tried to point out to him by referencing Dave Lang's assessment, but it sort of fell on deaf ears.
What about the E3 or pre-release material, which Dan as the unexpected voice of reason referenced, gave anybody pause to think it'd be any different.
Don't get me wrong; I'm super critical of Fallout 4. Check my posts in Fallout 4 threads on this forum. But how could you be disappointed at this point? They've been on a downward slide in terms of roleplaying elements, open world jank and the like since Morrowind. And the market has been rewarding them more and more for it each iteration.
Why expect them to do better? Seems idealistic in a way that Jeff rarely is. I'd hold this up to any criticism Jeff is burnt out or doesn't care about video games. He cares a whole fucking lot, and you could hear it during that segment. He wants these games to be better.
Bethesda have long demonstrated they don't really give a shit about doing anything but what they've been doing, which is make the same sort of game to widespread commercial success; Brad sort of tried to point out to him by referencing Dave Lang's assessment, but it sort of fell on deaf ears.
What about the E3 or pre-release material, which Dan as the unexpected voice of reason referenced, gave anybody pause to think it'd be any different.
Don't get me wrong; I'm super critical of Fallout 4. Check my posts in Fallout 4 threads on this forum. But how could you be disappointed at this point? They've been on a downward slide in terms of roleplaying elements, open world jank and the like since Morrowind. And the market has been rewarding them more and more for it each iteration.
Why expect them to do better? Seems idealistic in a way that Jeff rarely is. I'd hold this up to any criticism Jeff is burnt out or doesn't care about video games. He cares a whole fucking lot, and you could hear it during that segment. He wants these games to be better.
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Deleted member 17706
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I have 50 hours in Fallout 4 and I enjoyed it quite a bit, but I totally agree with Jeff.
They fucking failed miserably at the new things they implemented: voiced protagonist, bigger focus on guided narrative, base building.
All of it was complete garbage in the game.
If they can't fix their jank, then they should at least design their games with the jank and randomness in mind. Don't try to do a game with a voiced protagonist who has a fixed background and goes on a more linear story if you know your game's systems and engine cannot support doing that well.
Massive disappointment, but still enjoyable.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
That was a great episode. This is the one, in case anyone is curious.
Edit: Robotrock beat me to the punch.
BUNTING1243
Banned
The podcasts are so long this year because Austin is such a great addition. Really great insights and way of him to carry the Fallout 4 is Great torch.
Him and Brad could make a strong MGS5 for GOTY offensive.
Him and Brad could make a strong MGS5 for GOTY offensive.
For Brad, Austin could be the ultimate ally or the ultimate enemy.
funkystudent
Member
Austin seems like a smart thoughtful man.
Ill be real disappointed in him if he thinks MGSV is something worth rewarding as GOTY
It's so weird that they simplified so much of the game and then decided to add the new dialogue system.
Fallout 4 feels like a game developed in a bubble. But then someone at Bethesda peeked out into the rest of the industry for a second and decided to rip the Mass Effect dialogue system, and transplant it into their game even though it doesn't mesh at all with their style or the Fallout series.
Again the groundswell enthusiasm for Witcher 3 amongst the Beast crew convinces me it will make the top 10.
Austin has been very very impactful. I can't wait to see how he influences things going forward.
Austin has been very very impactful. I can't wait to see how he influences things going forward.
This is fantastic.
Heh. To me, it felt like they settled on the one title that wouldn't bring up the arguments again.
I honestly didn't know that game existed before this podcast.
skLaFarebear
Member
People thought Brad was losing his influence on the lists with the addition of Austin.
He clearly didn't.
BUNTING1243
Banned
Real talk. Brad usually beats Jeff through sheer force of will, I feel like Austin actually persuaded Jeff to change his original opinion in the Fallout 4 argument.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Alright, I just finished SOMA. SOMA is goddamn fantastic.
Fuck SOMA. Fucking great sci-fi making me not sure how to feel about humanity and the human condition, fucking being perfectly-toned science fiction. Fucking fantastic game with a fucking perfect post-credits sequence. The whole last hour-ish or so, starting with looking at yourself in the mirror and leaving Omicron and ending with you stuck at Tau is by far the best moment/sequence this year, Goddamn.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I still would have given Necromancer the win, but I do have like forty hours in that game...
Splatoon shop theme would win track of the year though. Actually I'll probably argue it for track of the generation if we reach that point
Splatoon shop theme would win track of the year though. Actually I'll probably argue it for track of the generation if we reach that point
It's Splatoon. It has to be.
I could almost see them giving it to Life is Strange if they'd finish it, but they haven't.
skLaFarebear
Member
Probably things like Splatoon, Until Dawn, Contradiction, etc.
I think Splatoon takes it.
Yup, I'll be very, very disappointed if SOMA doesn't get any nods for best moment.
Fuck man, when the credits hit in SOMA I just sat in stunned silence. It's the darkest shit in any game I've ever played.
Splatoon definitely has it in the bag. In fact it probably has a really good shot to crack the top 5 just because no one really has anything bad to say about it. The big complaint was that it was pretty barebones at launch, but that's mostly been solved.
CoolBatteryCharge
Member
4+ hours for day two ahhh
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
You just know someone is going to bring g up Bloodborne and we're going to get 5-10 minutes about if its another souls game or not
skLaFarebear
Member
I guess because of Flower? Idk, like others and Jeff said, the names for these awards are weird and need to change.
CoolBatteryCharge
Member
The song Vinny plays speaks to me.
plasmawave
Banned
Didn't Bethesda say at the E3 that the game is pretty much finished and the team is polishing the game?
I know guys at GT took that as FO4 will be less glitchy than their rest of the games.
I know guys at GT took that as FO4 will be less glitchy than their rest of the games.
Assuming you've built a RG before? If not, you're in for some fun.
They are cool as shit, but also really damn fragile. Make sure to pre-bend all the joints as you pull the frame free from the runner. That allows them to get all loosened up and breaks the excess plastic holding them, so you won't break it after assembly.
Chance Hale
Member
Weird that neither side did a quick look of Mushroom 11.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Is it?
Haunted
Member
\m/ van hailin'
So I definitely want to play SOMA soon, but there's no way I can play it in the next week or so. I guess I'm not listening to tomorrow's podcast for a good while, then.
EmCeeGramr
Member
And then someone peeked out the bubble, saw what all the cool streamer kids were playing on Early Access, and thought, "Hey wait a minute. We can just bolt on a bunch of pointless crafting and building shit."
At this point, despite all of the "Yep, it's more Fallout!" type comments the game's gotten, it's barely a Fallout game. I don't even mean like the whole "____ is a good game, but a bad _____ game" thing, I mean like this is some Ship of Theseus situation where Bethesda is replacing each part of Fallout incrementally until Fallout 5 comes out and it's straight up Borderlands 3 or a survival game on Steam but with a Fallout skin.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Also the dialogue and storyline is an actual downgrade from new vegas.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
If we want to take a ride on Theseus' ship, it was Fallout 3 that wasn't a fallout game. It's weird it's called Fallout 3, but it might as well have been its own thing. Like, atleast Oblivion was kinda like Morrowind. Skryim went farther away from Morrowind than Oblivion...I figure the next Elder Scrolls will be some sort of space shooter.
Chance Hale
Member
Well received and very unique steam game, seems like the standard GBE ql.
I should finish Soma now that I finally got past the part where you have to reactivate the elevator. Monster dude was just coasting by the office and I kept getting stuck, lol.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Yeah, that's true, but steam has such a volume nowadays stuff is bound to pass you by.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Someone put it well earlier, but Fallout is much harder to change game-to-game than Elder Scrolls is. There's only so much you can do to irradiated America and it doesn't seem Bethesda was even willing to do that much, so they bolted on weird stuff like base building and an unnecessary dialogue system and a robot that can call you Fuckface.
Fallout 3 was huge for a lot of people because, even if they had played the other Fallouts, this was a different take on the same world. Fallout 4 was the same take on the same world, years later and without the leap in graphics people hoped for.
Fallout 3 was huge for a lot of people because, even if they had played the other Fallouts, this was a different take on the same world. Fallout 4 was the same take on the same world, years later and without the leap in graphics people hoped for.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Fallout 3 still, despite all my problems with it, still feels fairly Falloutish in comparison.
Meanwhile, there's an alternate timeline where Fallout 4 was released on PC in 2001 as Fallout: Boston Gunrunner, sandwiched between X-COM Enforcer and Command & Conquer Renegade as yet another weird janky spinoff with neat ideas, but soon fades into a status as a flawed cult classic. A fan remake is attempted in 2009, but is abandoned, and people are excited to see this odd experiment when it releases on GOG in 2014.
Meanwhile, there's an alternate timeline where Fallout 4 was released on PC in 2001 as Fallout: Boston Gunrunner, sandwiched between X-COM Enforcer and Command & Conquer Renegade as yet another weird janky spinoff with neat ideas, but soon fades into a status as a flawed cult classic. A fan remake is attempted in 2009, but is abandoned, and people are excited to see this odd experiment when it releases on GOG in 2014.