3's main narrative is better. 4's cast and overall writing because of them kicks the shit out of 3. 3's cast is good, but pretty trope-y compared to 4.
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3's main narrative is better. 4's cast and overall writing because of them kicks the shit out of 3. 3's cast is good, but pretty trope-y compared to 4.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Persona 4 is the mass effect 2 to Persona 3's mass effect 1.
Oh god, don't say that. I'll get scared for 5.
Good comparison. Just because the main plot is less interesting doesn't mean the writing is bad. P4 was all about the characters for me.
That makes so much goddamn sense and I hate myself for not thinking of that.
5 isn't concluding any impossibly large narrative and has pretty much all the major staff. No need to worry.
I can understand that, the games often feel very "Saturday Morning Cartoon", but the characters are executed exceedingly well, and shit really pops off near the ends of both games.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Does that make persona 1 and 2 the knights of the old republic games?
Well, the KotOR games are good. So...no.
Probably closer to Baldur's gate, good when they came out but have aged a lot since then.
CoolBatteryCharge
Member
This is the perfect analogy in many ways including my love for Mass Effect 1 over 2.
I don't think P4's writing was bad overall. More that the story had plotholes you could drive a truck though and character motivations/arcs that didn't make a lot of sense.
Agreed so damn hard. That link is freakin perfect down to the punchline being held back until the ass ending of the game in a way that wraps it beautifully.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I also detest ME2 and love P4 so yeah.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
P3 sun persona >>> p4 sun persona.
Dangansona
Member
What plotholes?
WrenchNinja
Member
You want to talk plot holes,
explain how Aigis has the power to seal super shadows into little kids
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Just got to Most Disappointing on the Podcast and I cant disagree more on their views of Evolve. I played with nothing but randoms, and had way more good matches than bad ones.
I'm totally going to pick up the ingredients at the store today.
Don't get the big candy canes.
CoolBatteryCharge
Member
I don't remember the finer details of the story progression, but I remember on my second playthrough being confused in some pretty big ways about how it was all piecing together based on what I knew from my first playthrough. It had a lot of do with rules they were trying to establish with each case and in small part why they didn't just buy the TV.
P3's story isn't perfect either. I was fine with the lack of explanation since I didn't feel like it invalidated anything else in a significant way, but there are plenty of parts in P3 (especially The Answer) that could have been explained or handled better.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I love Persona 4 Golden. I couldn't get into Persona 3 Portable sady. It is boring the first 10 hours.
Alsp P4G has the superior soundtrack.
Edit: Best Debut = Best new IP ?
Alsp P4G has the superior soundtrack.
Edit: Best Debut = Best new IP ?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Naaaaaaaaaah.
I cannot abide persona 4 OST being better than Persona 3 OST.
I cannot abide persona 4 OST being better than Persona 3 OST.
LifeBrandRobot
Member
Hmm it's worrisome that out of everyone, Jeff is the only one who's even thinking about Bloodborne lol.
EDIT: Whoa, did not expect the latest page of this thread to be about P3 OST vs P4 OST lol
EDIT: Whoa, did not expect the latest page of this thread to be about P3 OST vs P4 OST lol
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
NumberThree
Member
Remember to get the melting chocolate from the baking section and not regular chocolate.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Rorie isn't on the podcast, sadly.
Barry Burton
Member
Lol @ the free pass Bethesda was getting from Brad & Austin.
They can't do any better.
Pretty embarrassing. Props to Jeff for calling it out.
They can't do any better.
Pretty embarrassing. Props to Jeff for calling it out.
You stand on the side of all that is right and pick P3.
does p3 ost include p3p ost? because fuck man those girl side songs are dope
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Yeah, they played the "you're not a game designer you know nothing"- card.
You can apply the defense that Austin and Brad gave Fallout 4 to every other game.
P3P just didn't resonate with me, maybe because I played it after P4G.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Sure man, it's all dope.
CoolBatteryCharge
Member
Both OSTs are great, but there's something special to the great horns+bad rapping combo that appeals to me more.
The big thing any version of P3 has against it is that it's harder to go to after P4's more upbeat tone and more welcoming mechanics.
The big thing any version of P3 has against it is that it's harder to go to after P4's more upbeat tone and more welcoming mechanics.
They're right though.
They weren't excusing it's quality. They were saying you shouldn't expect something different given the type of game Bethesda has decided to make with the type of flaws it has, especially since they sell so well.
P3 FES is the better version to play right after P4, it's a lot easier to enjoy the story.
Berserker976
Member
I'm a neutral coward in the P3 ost vs P4 ost debate. They're just too different to compare directly. I love them both. Don't make me choose. 
RepairmanJack
Member
It's kind of funny that everyone wanted Witcher to get its due, but then it gets the categories people wanted other games to win.
was robbed.
Paul Rand
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
With the move towards acid jazz in P5 I'm hoping for a lot more nonsensical rapping.
Oh? Oh. Ooooooh.
I thought the joke was that he's French and sophisticated whilst pretending to engage in down-to-earth and distinctly American sports rituals.
Fjolle
Member
I know this was like 2500 posts ago, but I go them when I went through the promos in the API to see who were guest writers.
It felt good to hear Jeff go off on Bethesda for the jank in Fallout 4. Its been a decade, staff up and start to fix your games. I don't care if its hard, you should have made some progress on fixing how broken they are since Oblivion. Of course they won't change anything since FO4 has sold gangbusters. *shrug*
the mystery has been solved!
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Also you'd think that bethesda would be the studio most equipped to hire all the QA testers they need.