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Giant Bomb: PS4.5 / PS4K is codenamed NEO, more info

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http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/sources-the-upgraded-playstation-4-is-codenamed-ne/1100-5437/

Earlier this year, rumors began to fly that Sony would release an upgraded version of the PlayStation 4, a console often called the PS4.5 or the PS4K by fans and press. Today, multiple sources have confirmed for us details of the project, which is internally referred to as the NEO. No price was provided, but previous reports indicate that the NEO would sell at $399. At time of publishing, Sony has not returned our request for comment, but we will update this story if the company responds.
Starting in October, every PS4 game is required to ship with both a “Base Mode” which will run on the currently available PS4 and a “NEO Mode” for use on the new console.
Games running in NEO mode will be able to use the hardware upgrades (and an additional 512 MiB in the memory budget) to offer increased and more stable frame rate and higher visual fidelity, at least when those games run at 1080p on HDTVs. The NEO will also support 4K image output, but games themselves are not required to be 4K native.
The NEO will not supplant the current PS4, but will exist alongside of it and use the same user environment. The PS4 and NEO will use the same PSN store, connect to the same online communities, and offer the same user experience, so expect to see the same cross media bar that you’re used to. Players will be able to retain all of the purchases they made on the PS4.
Sony seems committed to keeping the NEO and the original PS4 player bases connected. As such, there will be no NEO-only games, and Sony will not let developers separate NEO users from original PS4 players while playing on PSN. Likewise, Sony explicitly and repeatedly states that developers cannot offer exclusive gameplay options or special unlockables for NEO players—so don’t expect NEO owners to get a level editor or a special Rocket League car that you won’t have access to on your original PS4.
Specs:

Original PS4

CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 1.6 GHz
GPU: AMD GCN, 18 CUs at 800 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 176 GB/s

NEO
CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 2.1 GHz
GPU: Improved AMD GCN, 36 CUs at 911 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 218 GB/s
I've tried to parse out the important information but please read the article, there's a ton of stuff there.
 

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Sony seems committed to keeping the NEO and the original PS4 player bases connected. As such, there will be no NEO-only games, and Sony will not let developers separate NEO users from original PS4 players while playing on PSN. Likewise, Sony explicitly and repeatedly states that developers cannot offer exclusive gameplay options or special unlockables for NEO players—so don’t expect NEO owners to get a level editor or a special Rocket League car that you won’t have access to on your original PS4. That said, so long as both systems have the same feature, the NEO can run an improved version. A local co-op game that features four players on the base PS4 could offer an eight player co-op mode on the NEO, for instance. But again, don't expect those differences to transfer to online modes.
I like this.
 

chrominance

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Original PS4: 8 GB GDDR5, 17 GB/s
NEO PS4: 8 GB GDDR5, 218 GB/s

I am not technical enough to decide if that is a typo or not. That seems like a huge jump in memory bandwidth. (But also, will anything actually use more than 10x the memory bandwidth of the original anyways?)
 

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The NEO will feature a higher clock speed than the original PS4, an improved GPU, and higher bandwidth on the memory. The documents we've received note that the HDD in the NEO is the same as that in the original PlayStation 4, but it's not clear if that means in terms of capacity or connection speed. Starting in October, every PS4 game is required to ship with both a “Base Mode” which will run on the currently available PS4 and a “NEO Mode” for use on the new console

Though every PS4 game released as of October of this year will need to support both the original PS4 and the NEO, that doesn’t necessarily mean that the Neo will release in October. The documents we’ve received explicitly note that devs are allowed to launch NEO-ready games before the NEO itself releases.
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http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/sources-the-upgraded-playstation-4-is-codenamed-ne/1100-5437/

Giantbomb sources so hope its true?
 

Garrett Hawke

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A mess tbh, for many reasons outlined by users on here and devs.

If it's true then meh. Will just move full time to PC gaming.
 

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some choice quotes:

Sony seems committed to keeping the NEO and the original PS4 player bases connected. As such, there will be no NEO-only games, and Sony will not let developers separate NEO users from original PS4 players while playing on PSN. Likewise, Sony explicitly and repeatedly states that developers cannot offer exclusive gameplay options or special unlockables for NEO players—so don’t expect NEO owners to get a level editor or a special Rocket League car that you won’t have access to on your original PS4.
Sony repeatedly reminds developers that the frame rate of games in NEO Mode must meet or exceed the frame rate of the game on the original PS4 system.
The documents we’ve received explicitly note that devs are allowed to launch NEO-ready games before the NEO itself releases.
 

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Original PS4: 8 GB GDDR5, 17 GB/s
NEO PS4: 8 GB GDDR5, 218 GB/s

I am not technical enough to decide if that is a typo or not. That seems like a huge jump in memory bandwidth. (But also, will anything actually use more than 10x the memory bandwidth of the original anyways?)
typo

PS4 is 176 gb/s I believe
 

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Man. I wasn't really worried about this but now I am. Since I bought my PS4 at launch, I hope there isn't much of a difference in the games between the two. If there is, this is really gonna make me regret getting a PS4.
 

AwRy108

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I'll be all over this for $400. I wanted a 2nd PS4 to add to my media cabinet in the living room, so the Neo will replace the one in my man cave.

Also, I assume this won't come out this year--seems like it would overshadow PSVR at retail.
 

darkside31337

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No NEO only games seems pretty big.
Its straight up a o3DS/n3DS type of deal. Only instead of pretending like there will be exclusives for the new system that Nintendo tricked people into believing would be the case they're just being brutally honest.
 
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Twice the CU and at faster frequency for the GPU? Not bad, though now I'm at the split road of spending this $400 for the upgraded PS4 or just getting an even more powerful GPU at the same price at this point by the time it releases.