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Girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

Ailynn

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don't let the procedural battles get you down, it's gonna be this way for a while
You don't have anything to prove, so don't fight to the point of exhaustion.
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I appreciate all the thoughtful words. The thing is, I feel like I should be out there...trying my hardest to prevent people from making mistakes they can never fully recover from.

As other people here have voiced in the past, there are going to be SO many people in the coming years regretful of transition, because that was never the treatment they should have received if they didn't truly have the neurological condition requiring transition to feel okay.

People convince themselves into making rash decisions on everything far too easily these days. If they have gender confusion brought on by sexual trauma, or even fetishization through porn addiction or whatever...transition will only lead them into further problems in the future. :messenger_pensive:
 
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Gargus

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Let's face facts. A tranny woman is a man. You can pull.the stem off an apple and paint it orange but it still isn't an orange. Call yourself whatever you want but you're still what you were born as. They have no place in womens sports. They either need to play with guys or start their own league. There is only a limited amount of consideration you can give someone based on their feelings.


Dave Chappelle makes an interesting point. I particularly enjoy the last line.

 

bigedole

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It is pretty obvious that winning is more important. Hee is a quote from one of the "victims" in this lawsuit.



Translation: Losing=Discrimination

It is both unfair and painful that my victories have to be attacked and my hard work ignored.
Oh sweet summer child...
Kinda sounds like something one of their strawmen males would say doesn't it? lol
 
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The 3 girls suing will lose.

Are the girls in these meetings losing to trans star athletes to begin with? So scholarships are on the line?

If not, I'd say suck it up. It's not like you were going to be a track star anyway. If you're going through the hassle of whining about high school medals, focus on something else.

Consider it like gym class where every dude knows there's the group of athletic jock kinds of guys (who all like to buddy up and play on the same team as much as possible) who everyone knows is stronger, faster, taller. Then there's the 10 average guys, and then the 10 guys who are the worst at sports ever.

Have fun paying basketball or competing against them in long distance running. Get smoked every time. And if the teacher isn't watching closely, they'll buddy up when playing basketball and in your gym class of goofing around, your team of nerds will lose probably about 30-8.

That's sports.
 
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cryptoadam

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Just waiting for the day when cis males start getting sued for not dating transwomen. We all know its coming.
 
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nkarafo

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Here's how fast they could win the case:

"Trans men avoid competing in men sports because they know they will get trashed"

Case closed.
 

HeresJohnny

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There's something just deliciously funny about this. I have ZERO grievance with anyone who is transgendered and just wants to live their life because they couldn't stand living it any other way after trying and trying. I get those people 100%. But watching these two "victim" classes both clash is something that I knew was going to happen, and now everyone just gets kind of quiet when it gets brought up, because to do otherwise gets you labeled either a misogynist or a bigot (or both lol) by these grifters.
Let's face facts. A tranny woman is a man. You can pull.the stem off an apple and paint it orange but it still isn't an orange. Call yourself whatever you want but you're still what you were born as. They have no place in womens sports. They either need to play with guys or start their own league. There is only a limited amount of consideration you can give someone based on their feelings.


Dave Chappelle makes an interesting point. I particularly enjoy the last line.

He made so many heads pop with that show lol.
 
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Blood Borne

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I’m really loving the war between feminists and trans. Feminists brought this on themselves. They did the very same thing to men and now trans are doing it to them. Trans will eventually win the war, the next battle is trans vs non-binary.
 

MilkyJoe

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Agreed.
I really don't think bad about trans.
But let's be real here and not ignore certain benefits.

Just make another group. I don't want trans people not being able to compete 👉
The responses you'll get from this will separate the real from the fakers.
 

MilkyJoe

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I appreciate all the thoughtful words. The thing is, I feel like I should be out there...trying my hardest to prevent people from making mistakes they can never fully recover from.

As other people here have voiced in the past, there are going to be SO many people in the coming years regretful of transition, because that was never the treatment they should have received if they didn't truly have the neurological condition requiring transition to feel okay.

People convince themselves into making rash decisions on everything far too easily these days. If they have gender confusion brought on by sexual trauma, or even fetishization through porn addiction or whatever...transition will only lead them into further problems in the future. :messenger_pensive:
I've said for ages, this gender trend and leftist "mentors" encouraging confused children that they are trans is going to be a minefield of lawsuits in the coming years. Medicine will look back on these past years the way we look back on lobotomy.
 

Madonis

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I do have a concern that's not easy to answer:

If a trans woman has already gone through proper HRT (I don't know if this is true for the people in the story) and her subsequent performance ends up somewhere within the recorded range for female athletes, which can be variable rather than showing some sort of automatic advantage in the actual scientific metrics, should she still be blocked from competing with non-trans women?

Or should those types of individuals only be allowed to compete with men, even if the hormone treatment puts them at a disadvantage with male competitors? Creating a separate league or category sounds good, in theory, but there's not enough trans athletes right now to make that feasible in every sport.

I understand Ailynn's point of view and appreciate it, because there are indeed extreme views on this subject that aren't helpful, but I don't think blocking is the answer here.
 
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Teslerum

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I used to think this wasn't really much of a problem. There are extremely few if any transsexual people ("transmedicalists", "transcum", or, y'know...people with actual medically diagnosed gender dysphoria)
Sadly, if this was the only case this whole thing wouldn't be a problem. Because at that point this wouldn't be a major problem and we could call it an exception. Instead we're actually edging closer and closer to this:


Of course we'd still be dealing locally with people that can't seem to accept or deal with people with medical disabilities (which I'm sure you suffered from yourself), but now the whole thing gets co-opted by people that transistion in the blink of an eye because they think they'll find something that makes them unique/fill that gaping hole in their heart. Which sadly also leads to an even higher number of suicides. In their strife for *equality* everybody seems to have forgotten that they were perfectly unique already in the beginning.

Eh, that ended up in a bit of a ramble.
 
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Ailynn

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I do have a concern that's not easy to answer:

If a trans woman has already gone through proper HRT (I don't know if this is true for the people in the story) and her subsequent performance ends up somewhere within the recorded range for female athletes, which can be variable rather than showing some sort of automatic advantage in the actual scientific metrics, should she still be blocked from competing with non-trans women?

Or should those types of individuals only be allowed to compete with men, even if the hormone treatment puts them at a disadvantage with male competitors? Creating a separate league or category sounds good, in theory, but there's not enough trans athletes right now to make that feasible in every sport.

I understand Ailynn's point of view and appreciate it, because there are indeed extreme views on this subject that aren't helpful, but I don't think blocking is the answer here.
I think if trans women transition very early, it would be okay in most cases. If somehow they are able to avoid male-hormone puberty and then go through estrogen treatments and such, there should be very little difference physically between girls who are trans or not.

Still, that's a whole other touchy subject. Is it unhealthy for kids to go on hormone blockers to avoid unwanted sexual characteristics? Jazz Jennings has been going through many issues, but maybe that's mostly just the surgeries? Who knows. Personally, I would loved to have gone through at least hormone replacement therapy at her age...but I think surgery at that age is a really really bad idea.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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Women want equality until they lose at something.

Robot league when?
 
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NickFire

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Women want equality until they lose at something.

Robot league when?
That's not really fair IMO. I see this as people want equality, but then some people took it a step too far, making things unequal in a different way.
 
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It will be interesting to see how the dominance of trans athletes in sports affects attendance/viewership. I've stopped watching any wrestling programs that have trans women in the female divisions and that's not even a real sport.
 
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