pixelation
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Anyone think that they'll pull back the camera for the boss fights?, so that the sense of scale is greater?
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God of War - No epic boss fights due to shoulder-cam and setting? Guessss again!
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They were kinda already doing it with the troll dude, so I'd think that would be case.
I hope they don't "evolve" the level progression.
This is one of my only remaining doubts. Ever since I saw the E3 demo, and even after Cory said there will be big boss fights, I got the feeling that GoW is gonna try and be a bit less of a classic hack n' slash, and my feare is that there's gonna be all these changes and one of them might be abandoning the linear, but imo well-paced progression where 100% of the time you keep working toward your ultimate goal, be it getting toe the oracle, then pandora's box, be it getting to the sisters of fate or be it getting to zeus. I think this is what makes these games so fun to replay. I thought Uncharted 4 had a lot of dead air compared to the first 3 games which is more apparent upon replays. I hope GoW doesn't end up having a hub where you can take on missions and side mission, or even if there isn't there end up being missions like "go with your son on another hunt" that have almost no action, instead it's mostly bonding and shit.
Basically, I want shit to hit the fan at the point where the demo ends or so. For example, the kid gets kidnapped and there's your end goal, you don't need anything else. Now go force your way through to your goal.
I have faith in Cory, I just hope their line of thinking when designing this game isn't "gamers these days want a more intimate, a more mature experience". We have plenty of those games already
This is one of my only remaining doubts. Ever since I saw the E3 demo, and even after Cory said there will be big boss fights, I got the feeling that GoW is gonna try and be a bit less of a classic hack n' slash, and my feare is that there's gonna be all these changes and one of them might be abandoning the linear, but imo well-paced progression where 100% of the time you keep working toward your ultimate goal, be it getting toe the oracle, then pandora's box, be it getting to the sisters of fate or be it getting to zeus. I think this is what makes these games so fun to replay. I thought Uncharted 4 had a lot of dead air compared to the first 3 games which is more apparent upon replays. I hope GoW doesn't end up having a hub where you can take on missions and side mission, or even if there isn't there end up being missions like "go with your son on another hunt" that have almost no action, instead it's mostly bonding and shit.
Basically, I want shit to hit the fan at the point where the demo ends or so. For example, the kid gets kidnapped and there's your end goal, you don't need anything else. Now go force your way through to your goal.
I have faith in Cory, I just hope their line of thinking when designing this game isn't "gamers these days want a more intimate, a more mature experience". We have plenty of those games already
If you look at the leaked art works. You can see the floating character art here: (or maybe not? Close?)
Looks to be some sort of guardian:
Surprised no one liked those 2 bits. Glad they werent.
Looks to be some sort of guardian:
Lastly I really hope Shinobi tries to be more careful how he hints at leak game info. He could have given away a kid being involved. ("To Valhalla....My boy" or whatever tweet) Anyways the leaked artwork clearly show Kratos being accompanied by a young kid here:
Surprised no one liked those 2 bits. Glad they werent.
Cory already stated that all the gore and setpiece battles will be in the new game. They just chose not to show it because everyone knows they can do that stuff. They wanted to show everything that's different about this game.
And I don't see why they can't pull the camera out for bigger battles. The perspective isn't an all or nothing kind of thing. But I'm not a game dev so what do I know?
LookAtMeGo
Member
Nice find!
Its not open world so you dont have to worry about that.
Also keep in mind the other GOW games were short. I feel that they can add more content to flesh out the story better and give Krato's character more depth. Looks like they will. So should make for a better paced game. Doesnt mean it needs useless filler but definitely add more background info. I think they will need to, to explain how he got there anyways.
That looks so cool!
I hope it's the Nidhogg, although it's supposed to be a giant worm, so I suppose it having scales doesn't make any sense.
That said I hope you fight the Nidhogg regardless. It would be cool to fight something that dives in an out of the ground and you have to follow through its tunnels
I hope it's the Nidhogg, although it's supposed to be a giant worm, so I suppose it having scales doesn't make any sense.
That said I hope you fight the Nidhogg regardless. It would be cool to fight something that dives in an out of the ground and you have to follow through its tunnels
Shambalakan
Member
Just imagine these locations with those graphics! (leaked screenshots from months ago)
I have no doubt the game is gonna be great, but the over the shoulder camera is shit
it's the same reason I didn't like what I saw in Hellblade
if only they change that or make it optional
I would rather the camera from behind like countless action games like Bayonetta, Soulsborne etc.
it's the same reason I didn't like what I saw in Hellblade
if only they change that or make it optional
I would rather the camera from behind like countless action games like Bayonetta, Soulsborne etc.
TeddyShardik
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My doubts come in when I think of how all of this will play. I never liked melee combat with ots camera. If they can change that with this game I will be fine I think.
pixelation
Member
I like those gifs, they make them creatures look extra creepy... kinda like in that "Signs" movie when they show the camcorder clip of the alien on the news
Yeah it constantly adjusting in the vid.Looks like the camera will automatically adjust based on the enemy and the distance from it, they did a great job imho
2 quick screens from the video
It will stay really close only during exploration and in fights with little and few enemies or when you are distant form a big enemie imho, like in the first encounter of the video.
I bet each fight will be adjusted accordingly.
RecRoulette
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Nice finds. Especially the snake.
Ploid 3.0
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vanDoughnut
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It's going to be a visual masterpiece isn't it? smh
Ploid 3.0
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This game is going to be stinking beautiful. I hope the road to whatever Kratos will be doing is so good that I'd do it over and over from time to time, like Need for Speed The Run (hey I like the different locations and it looks so pretty on PC, the racing is good to me as well).
Springfoot
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Yes, they already did that to an extent with the big troll. Plus at this very same E3 games like Nier 2 were shown where the camera shifts during part of a boss fight (from a third person action cam to a top-down bullet hell one) - but somehow people think the devs behind the inanely gargantuan bosses of God of War 3 are going to be incapable of manipulating the camera? No idea where this unfounded fear is coming from that Sony Santa Monica suddenly lost all its skill with set piece boss fights.
Lion Heart
Banned
Damn OP you got me hyped. I can only imagine the crazyness mixed with the insane graphics.
The per object motion blur is fantastic as well. Makes it feel like CG.
The per object motion blur is fantastic as well. Makes it feel like CG.
They're going for a more "personal" experience. There's nothing less personal than fighting a horde. Remember how the Troll would say things to Kratos and his son during the fight? That's what it'll be like.
Cory disagrees.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Those first 2 gifs are from cinematics thoEpic bosses are confirmed, but I'm still concerned about the horde fights.
I mean, I need some of this:
jacksepticeye
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Man I didn't catch that giant serpent in the trailer until you pointed it out, awesome!
I just wonder how the giant fights will work, in the old games Kratos had his chain blades to propel him up over and around all sorts of things. He used them as swings and grappling hooks the whole time to scale everything. I wonder how it plays out with Axe man
I just wonder how the giant fights will work, in the old games Kratos had his chain blades to propel him up over and around all sorts of things. He used them as swings and grappling hooks the whole time to scale everything. I wonder how it plays out with Axe man
Ha, I just noticed in the one where Kratos is in the boat that you can see a smaller figure in it with him, which must be his son.
AltogetherAndrews
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Pretty much
Norse folklore has plenty of large serpents. If that's the world serpent, then they have an odd sense of scale. Unless this takes place at a time when it is still growing.
Samurai G0SU
Member
Game is going to be soooo sick next year.omgzzzz
Bitch Pudding
Member
Now, at the end of the day we are talking about a video game which obviously will take some freedom to squezze Kratos into a Norse mythology setting, so they'll also use some freedom when it comes to scale.
The World Serpent could have been scaled-down a little to make it even possible to setup a fight against it. Other creatures, especially the well-known animals of the gods, like the boars from Freya and Freyr, might have been enlarged to make it more epic. One way or the other, I am totally hyped for the epicness this game promisses.
TheGameshark
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I'm pretty sure Beowulf, the character, is Norse.I was thinking about a Kratos vs. Beowulf boss fight
but then i realized Beowulf is an English Anglo-Saxon warrior I believe...then i cried
MoonsaultSlayer
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One thing I've noticed, and I haven't kept up with discussions in all of these threads to know if it's come up, is that there seem to be patches of the forest that are full of sunlight with the glow of spring/summer while all around it is cold/snow. Any Norse myth related to that or am I misremembering the video (only seen it twice)?
Bitch Pudding
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While snow itself is nothing special in Scandinavia, a three year long winter is a sign of Ragnarök.
I found two more potential candidates, one of them was already mentionend:
Nidhöggr, a "death dragon" who's joined by the two snakes Moinn und Goinn.
And there is Garm, the watch dog / hell hound of the underworld, like Cerberus in the Greek mythology.
Ploid 3.0
Member
In Final Fantasy XI, Jormungand is a tiny dragon. Videogames! It's like when tv shows have to scale down events from books to realistic proportions (man these dire wolves are expensive, shorten their screen time, write them out of the story). Text can go wild with their imagination, images as well. When you have to animate stuff, design games around it, cast actors, and are assigned a certain time slots, things will probably have to get scaled down. (noticed the pun)
If Midgard Serpent is in the game in all it's glory, it'll most likely just be a background dressing or something that you definitely don't get to fight.
Shadax the wizard
Member
Could this be Jörmungandr the world serpent? In the Edda it surrounds the whole world and bites its own tail.
When Ragnarök comes, the serpent will come out of the water and poise the sky.
Edit:
Yeah I think so. I think the red snake in the logo represents him as well.
manfestival
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over the shoulder and creepy god of war... seems like a different direction all together. not sure if want but I will end up buying it and liking it regardless because I am hopeless with kratos
Ploid 3.0
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"You will want to protect this Kratos" - Square Enix
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Utgard-Loki, the leader of frost giants:
He's the one on the right, Thor is the one on the left.
It would be a pretty cool boss fight.
I think it'd be so cool if one of these giant guys was just... benevolent, and cool with Kratos. I mean, we kind of saw a bit of that with Gaia and the Titans midway through the original trilogy, but goddamn, Kratos deserves a friend
Turbowaffles
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Don't forget Hephaestus... for a little bit, lol.
DirtyLarry
Member
I'm so psyched about this game. Even more so as it is going to be like playing myself. A friend of mine even reached out on Facebook the other day to say how much old man Kratos looks like me.
AstroNut325
Member
It looks like the serpent is in the title/logo!
That was a really nice catch! =o
Is there a known norse massive snake creature?
It actually reminds me of the snake level from gow:ascension
j0hnnix
Gold Member
Anyone else find this a tad creepy?
Great topic. I love details like this.
Extremely creeped out.. That was in the trailer??