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God of War's graphics aren't great

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I label great as top tier, I'm sorry the thread title reflects my personal standards and that it offends you so much.




Even though these games might not be as good critically as GoW, I think Gears 5 and Death Stranding are going to look insane. I'm just at awe with the asset quality.
That’s hardly fair comparing it to games that aren’t even out yet and GoW will be approximately 2 years old when they come out. ( can’t be bothered to look up releases dates and be specific)

That’s like creating a thread and saying sonic graphics are shit, look at crysis destroys it in every way. I didn’t even notice the graphics were bad in GoW, I thought they looked nice on my base PS4. Not Uncharted 4 / RDR2 nice but still looked great.

Just aware I have reacted to this bait so going to leave it there......
 
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I don't think GoW holds up personally.

So it's great looking, but not as great looking then. And you picked a background that is further off in the distance with a misty haze and slightly snow capped mountains.
 
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This is what I'm talking about when I say the materials don't look right in this game.

I dont think there is good tonemapping. Though you prove some points you mentioned. The statues almost look like toys. DoF isnt very stong so it doesn't do a good job of hiding the flatness of the background.
 
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DMCV is alright but it's environments get very repetitive (you know what I mean if you've played), the backgrounds have that photographed quality that Capcom games used to have... if you remember the RE1 Remake.

You undermined your own argument by citing exclusivity so much.... it reveals that the main issue you have is not the quality of the games but your own dislike of the platform they are on.

Unfortunate for you but there is a reason PS exclusives are often in the running for game of the year.
"Repetitive environments"
Are you talking about graphics on an ARTISTIC level? Or on a tech level? Based on the thread itself, it seemed we were talking purely on a tech level. In which yes, DMC 5 wins. God of War 4 looks good considering the open-world nature of it, but even if there are reasons for it, it doesn't change the fact that DMC 5 is still more technically impressive.

"By citing exclusivity"
It was a blanket name for the category of games that they happen to be, for fuck's sake. Did you expect me to write down all the names of the games that I happen to not like very much? Just how daft must you be to assume that's what I meant when I wrote "PS4 exclusives are overrated"?

"But GOTY"
Popularity =/= quality.

You're so right about PS4 exclusives being overrated though, so many people buying into those overrated games and consoles, 91.6 million now? chump change!. How do Sony keep forcing people to buy these totally overrated games and giving them awards and fantastic reviews is what I would like to know. must be mind control or something!
As stated above: Popularity =/= quality.
 
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"Repetitive environments"
Are you talking about graphics on an ARTISTIC level? Or on a tech level? Based on the thread itself, it seemed we were talking purely on a tech level. In which yes, DMC 5 wins. God of War 4 looks good considering the open-world nature of it, but even if there are reasons for it, it doesn't change the fact that DMC 5 is still more technically impressive.

"By citing exclusivity"
It was a blanket name for the category of games that they happen to be, for fuck's sake. Did you expect me to write down all the names of the games that I happen to not like very much? Just how daft must you be to assume that's what I meant when I wrote "PS4 exclusives are overrated"?

"But GOTY"
Popularity =/= quality.


As stated above: Popularity =/= quality.
Then you must have missed all the articles from all the different sites that said the game was the greatest showcase of graphics on any platform, you must have also missed the video that was posted 'the art of GOW'.....

As I stated previously games are art in motion, the video really highlights how amazing the game is visually and that is where it excels far beyond any of the games you care to mention.
 
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You keep telling yourself that. In this case popularity does mean quality.
Why is that?

Then you must have missed all the articles from all the different sites that said the game was the greatest showcase of graphics on any platform, you must have also missed the video that was posted 'the art of GOW'.....

As I stated previously games are art in motion, the video really highlights how amazing the game is visually and that is where it excels far beyond any of the games you care to mention.
People saying that God of War is the best looking game they've ever seen doesn't prove that God of War 4 is the best looking game ever made.

Mind linking me to that video you mentioned?

"Games are art in motion"
Once again, are we talking on a TECHNICAL level that God of War 4 is the best looking game ever made, or are we talking about the ARTISTIC level? Like, the art design, and art direction? Because the latter is highly, highly subjective.
 

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Why is that?


People saying that God of War is the best looking game they've ever seen doesn't prove that God of War 4 is the best looking game ever made.

Mind linking me to that video you mentioned?

"Games are art in motion"
Once again, are we talking on a TECHNICAL level that God of War 4 is the best looking game ever made, or are we talking about the ARTISTIC level? Like, the art design, and art direction? Because the latter is highly, highly subjective.
To your question, I don't think it was really specified. OP probably wanted to give himself good range to troll and bait.

 
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I too found it to be a yawnfest compared to other GoW's. And the game is frankly not even that violent and took me time to get adjusted with 30fps motion blurfest.

In my books this game is the last on the list. Hope it gets a ps5 patch where 60fps is constant in 1080p mode at least.
 
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I was just being facious but if you want proof the game is quality check out my older post here.


If you see trying to argue that GoW isn't quality then we are know its just fanboy diarrhea, most people here can smell it.

Sony fanboys do the same on Xbox threads also, you are no different.
It gets tiring listening to the salt fueled crap that spews from the mouths of people who hate PS exclusives.
If they had some decent games, they wouldn't be here taking out their frustration on us.

That's why you see many of them advocating for games to go multiplatform and saying crap like Sony would make more money etc.
 

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Why are you guys are so damn obsessed with technical side of the graphics!!?

Look at these games! Is it technical marvel? No! Is it still gorgeous? Fuck yes!!!





For me, the only thing matters in visuals is the art direction, thats key element that will make visuals looking good.
Im still butthurt at FS for not making a Pro patch and the framepacing issue. Agree with you otherwise
 

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To your question, I don't think it was really specified. OP probably wanted to give himself good range to troll and bait.

That's just game footage? I don't see how this proves it is "the best looking game ever made". I mean, this certainly looks very beautiful, but...

I was just being facious but if you want proof the game is quality check out my older post here.


If you see trying to argue that GoW isn't quality then we are know its just fanboy diarrhea, most people here can smell it.

Sony fanboys do the same on Xbox threads also, you are no different.
You have successfully proven that God of War 4 is popular.

You haven't proven that it is GOOD.

It gets tiring listening to the salt fueled crap that spews from the mouths of people who hate PS exclusives.
If they had some decent games, they wouldn't be here taking out their frustration on us.

That's why you see many of them advocating for games to go multiplatform and saying crap like Sony would make more money etc.
I don't dislike PS4 exclusives BECAUSE they are on PS4. I don't like them, because I don't think they are good.

You're basically saying "WAAH YOU HAVE TO LIKE PS4 EXCLUSIVES OTHERWISE UR XBOX/PC/NINTENDO FANBOY". In other words, you don't want to have a discussion, and you can't take the idea of someone not liking something that you do.
 
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That's just game footage? I don't see how this proves it is "the best looking game ever made". I mean, this certainly looks very beautiful, but...


You have successfully proven that God of War 4 is popular.

You haven't proven that it is GOOD.
I think I have. Let's agree to disagree.
 

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The game looked absolutely incredible to me from start to finish. Definitely in my top 3 of the generation right alongside Uncharted 4 and Red Dead Redemption 2. Then again, there are a lot of other really incredible looking games this generation that come very close to the three I listed.
 

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Wow. Can understand some not liking the game or certain aspects but visuals definitely shouldn't be one of them as God of War looks superb and the HDR implementation is the second best of the generation behind only Horizon Zero Dawn. Oh well, to each their own.
 
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I don't usually care about how technically amazing graphics are for a game, I'm more interested in their art style. GoW looks amazing alright, but I don't compare it against HZD or UC4 etc. They all look good.
 
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Depth of field or motion blur doesn't excuse the low res mountain textures evident in every hub world scene.



Ewww review scores, seriously? I never said anything about the game's quality, it's a good game. The graphics just aren't that great.
Yeah they dont exist tho, these low rez textures you're speaking of

keep fighting tho you might reach something, whatever it may be
 

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Not sure how legit this OP is but his points aren't completely wrong.

GOW might be my game of the gen but I found the graphics equally amazing and bizarrely uneven in some places.

The colors, tonemaps, and brightness levels seem to be all over the place making some scenes look CGI quality and others have this cartoonish glow and exaggerated color template that makes my eyes bleed. I had to crank the color levels down almost 20% on my TV to get it to match initial trailers.

The lighting also seems to change dramatically from scene to scene as I think it only approximates global illumination within a certain radius and in certain environments.

That said. Other games like Gears 5 might have a more consistent technical implementation but GOWs art direction is on another level, IMO.
 
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You dont like game dont play it because nobody cares why you dont like it. Ohhh i dont like game because this and that now i need atentio .... Looks so stupid from side
Btw looks better then any pc game no mattet how maxed same type
 
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That's just game footage? I don't see how this proves it is "the best looking game ever made". I mean, this certainly looks very beautiful, but...


You have successfully proven that God of War 4 is popular.

You haven't proven that it is GOOD.


I don't dislike PS4 exclusives BECAUSE they are on PS4. I don't like them, because I don't think they are good.

You're basically saying "WAAH YOU HAVE TO LIKE PS4 EXCLUSIVES OTHERWISE UR XBOX/PC/NINTENDO FANBOY". In other words, you don't want to have a discussion, and you can't take the idea of someone not liking something that you do.
The best criteria for a game's worth is popularity. There is no objective way to make a popular game not good if it's popular because...

I leave that solution for you to decide.

And GOW, as a graphical benchmark, is most certainly a good looking game. Saying it doeasnt look good is incomprehensible (sp?) to someone objective.
 

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The best criteria for a game's worth is popularity.
There isn't a criteria for a game's worth outside of YOUR opinion.

And GOW, as a graphical benchmark, is most certainly a good looking game. Saying it doeasnt look good is incomprehensible (sp?) to someone objective.
I didn't say God of War is a bad looking game. I just don't think it's the best looking game ever.
 

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It's great looking game but RDR2 and Metro Exodus look more impressive especially Rdr2 on X.
 

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I didn't say God of War is a bad looking game. I just don't think it's the best looking game ever.
In terms of what? From tech side, sure there are some other games might have more advance graphics but if someone like God of War's art direction then to them it could be best looking game. At end of day its all subjective, For me I personally like Gravity Rush 2's visuals more than Spider Man even tho that game blows GR2' out of the water in terms of pure tech but if I like that games art direction more than Spider Man then it becomes better looking game for me.
 

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In terms of what? From tech side, sure there are some other games might have more advance graphics but if someone like God of War's art direction then to them it could be best looking game. At end of day its all subjective, For me I personally like Gravity Rush 2's visuals more than Spider Man even tho that game blows GR2' out of the water in terms of pure tech but if I like that games art direction more than Spider Man then it becomes better looking game for me.
Both tech, and art. And yes, I know it's my opinion. That's why I said "I don't think that it's the best looking game ever"
 
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Both tech, and art. And yes, I know it's my opinion. That's why I said "I don't think that it's the best looking game ever"
Then thats just straight up subjective, this why I find this type of discussion pointless because at end of the day it just comes down each individual taste, we can scream at each about our opinion but it get us nowhere.
 
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I liked it enough to play through twice. Not many games I can say that about anymore. Visuals, story-line, character development, lore, controls/battle system, camera and replayability all matter. Focusing just on the not-perfect graphics is a waste.
 
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I was just being facious but if you want proof the game is quality check out my older post here.


If you are trying to argue that GoW isn't quality then we are know its just fanboy diarrhea, most people here can smell it.

Sony fanboys do the same on Xbox threads also, you are no different.
Again, gaming marketers awards as we've found that's what those are aren't exactly a sign of quality anymore either. For all we know they could easily be just trying to encourage ppl to remove tits from their franchises like gow did lol
 

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Because reviews are real trustworthy. Half those merits were given to god of war for removing the sex minigame alone.
Again, gaming marketers awards as we've found that's what those are aren't exactly a sign of quality anymore either. For all we know they could easily be just trying to encourage ppl to remove tits from their franchises like gow did lol
Seems like you were really upset over the pixelated porn in your videogames being taken out, It comes across a little creepy and kinda desperate if I'm honest.:messenger_neutral:


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Having calibrated my TVs color temperature recently, I can say that PBR perception is heavily affected by that, and color calibration in general.

Modern illumination techniques, specially PBR, relies on many variables that a bad color calibration makes useless.
 
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You dont like game dont play it because nobody cares why you dont like it. Ohhh i dont like game because this and that now i need atentio .... Looks so stupid from side
Btw looks better then any pc game no mattet how maxed same type
Hit the nail on the head. everyone has a opinion, and a right to it, but to go out of your way keep pointing out flaws because of some personal dislike towards the game comes off very.... Fanboyish?
 
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But on topic, I think GoW may suffer of being in the uncanny valley between being too good for sdr displays, but too bad for what the art styles really needs.
It's like the game lets you with the sensation that sdr just feels really lacking for what the art is aiming for.

Maybe.

I'm sure HDR will make the game play on another league.
 
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Just adding my voice to team "the game looks fantastic".
Don't know how it fares compared to other games on a technical stand point but...
I greatly appreciated the artistic direction and was pleased to see they still produced some jaw dropping moments simply by the way they staged/directed some cut scenes / reveals.
 
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I'm much more impressed with the destruction of the landscape in that first boss battle than static image quality.
Good point, pretty much all Sony's games have good destruction and physics, animate very well and holds their framerate......A great looking game is the combination of all these elements.

What the hell is people's problem with God of War?
It's a Sony First Party game which got GOTY and received many awards for best graphics.........That's reason enough....