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Gran Turismo 6 |OT| Moon Rover The Castle
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OmegaDL50
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The Nordschleife is what 13 or so miles long? and is also notable for people trying to get sub-7 minute time trials on it, even though it does have closed circuit racing done on it.
Just imagine that but roughly 3 times the length. If they can reuse what laser scanned tracks they have and just completely rexture them with modern expectations. Then I don't really see having the IoM track would take away from other tracks that are likely to be new as well.
Nurburgring is in a forest though while the IoM track goes through a lot of areas with houses. To make a decent representation of this track they have to model a lot of assets which take a lot of time. I saw how long it took to model the assets for pCARS Le Mans track, and this one is way longer.
True, but once they have the data, they should always have it.
Having Isle of Man is an investment, not something only for GT7.
I'm a bigger 'racing track' person myself, but like the Nordschleife, some of these tracks are still absolutely fantastic to have. I'd complain if I thought GT lacked in regular racing tracks, but I think its ok for them to branch out a bit more with this.
Gathering the data is not the problem. It's the monumental amount of resources required to accurately craft the assets. For every mile of this time trial track these one less mile of a proper racing circuit that could be worked on.
PD simply don't commit enough resources to follow through with their promises. And once again it looks like they've bitten off far more then they can chew. I'm sure IoM will look great, but it will be at the expense of many other aspects of the game.
My point is that this is an investment in the long-term. You're thinking short-term only. Its good to make these investments once in a while. Having this track not only in the next GT, but also GT's beyond that will be a massive selling point and great for the fans.
Again, if GT was lacking in regular race tracks, I could see the merit in complaining. But that's not the case.
gutterboy44
Member
Haha wow. If there was one "party trick" left that could even begin to rekindle my interest in GT or GT7 it would be the Isle of Man TT course. That would be fucking nuts.
Still waiting for that Pikes Peak course.
Still waiting for that Pikes Peak course.
theignoramus
Member
so Im coming to terms with the game now, since I basically use it for time trials and mute the audio, whilst I listen a podcast in the background.
I appreciate the time of day and weather options more than I ever did, same with the variety of tracks. I want to punch the people that dismiss this kind of stuff like it's unimportant, it makes the driving so much more interesting.
In the replays, the car models and lighting look PS4 quality, the only thing undercutting the photorealism is the flat geometry of the environment.
I imagine that will be dealt with in GT7.
I appreciate the time of day and weather options more than I ever did, same with the variety of tracks. I want to punch the people that dismiss this kind of stuff like it's unimportant, it makes the driving so much more interesting.
In the replays, the car models and lighting look PS4 quality, the only thing undercutting the photorealism is the flat geometry of the environment.
I imagine that will be dealt with in GT7.
BradleyLove
Member
Has anyone any experience with the Wheel Stand Pro?
I'm thinking about pulling the trigger, but I just can't see how they're stable with some enthusiastic steering.
I'm thinking about pulling the trigger, but I just can't see how they're stable with some enthusiastic steering.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
They are stable enough, more so with a heavier pedal set.
BradleyLove
Member
Thanks. Would a G27 count as having a heavier pedal set?
drugstore_cowboy
Member
It'd be fine, not like the stand moves around anyway as the base is weighted but the more the better imo.
BradleyLove
Member
Thanks, man.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
So is this amazing July the Isle of Man news, amar?
kamikazekoala
Member
July hasn't been amazing for now. Not sure if it will be... 
Sounds like an anger problem.
Anyways, there are some of us who are more concerned with the competitive aspects or find typical dry, daylight racing perfectly interesting on its own. Wet weather in GT barely reduces grip so feels more like a visual difference and nighttime driving is also largely just a visual thing. So again, some of us are more interesting the racing/competitive aspects.
I do imagine that some visual variety is important to the more casual players though(especially one who mutes the audio....), sure. Nothing against you, just reminding you that not everybody plays these games for the same reason.
theignoramus
Member
Why would anyone invest in GT as a racing sim at this point? The AI is bad, the engine notes are awful and the game design is just bad in general. Ive always invested in it as a driving simulator, and it's exceedingly competent at that. If they would simply fix the engine sounds, GT7 could end up being one of the best driving games ever, Polyphony's driving physics feel awesome.
I mute the audio because I refuse to listen to the sounds of the engine. I wont listen to 700+ bhp engine sounding like a vacuum cleaner. If that makes me a "casual" so be it.
Second, racing in the dark at Le Mans or the Ring is different experience in a faster car, it's not just a visual difference.
The claim that "grip is barely reduced in wet weather" is a categorical lie and makes me question if youve even played the game for any lengthy duration of time.
Even if you find the heavier wet weather tires too grippy, you can switch to intermediates and increase the volume of surface water for more of a challenge.
Like seriously, I doubt youre even playing this game. I just spent an hour messing around with the Lotus 97T in full wet conditions and while I doubt the grips levels conform 100% to reality, Im loving the challenge of having to feather the throttle and experiencing massive wheelspin as the turbo kicks in. Wet weather driving absolutely feels different.
But I do imagine that doesnt matter to someone who wants to stealth troll for some other racing sim.
I mute the audio because I refuse to listen to the sounds of the engine. I wont listen to 700+ bhp engine sounding like a vacuum cleaner. If that makes me a "casual" so be it.
Second, racing in the dark at Le Mans or the Ring is different experience in a faster car, it's not just a visual difference.
The claim that "grip is barely reduced in wet weather" is a categorical lie and makes me question if youve even played the game for any lengthy duration of time.
Even if you find the heavier wet weather tires too grippy, you can switch to intermediates and increase the volume of surface water for more of a challenge.
Like seriously, I doubt youre even playing this game. I just spent an hour messing around with the Lotus 97T in full wet conditions and while I doubt the grips levels conform 100% to reality, Im loving the challenge of having to feather the throttle and experiencing massive wheelspin as the turbo kicks in. Wet weather driving absolutely feels different.
But I do imagine that doesnt matter to someone who wants to stealth troll for some other racing sim.
If you think GT's physics feel awesome, Assetto Corsa will make you shit your pants.
Well damn, Kaz crashed pretty hard on qualy @ 24H Nurburgring race, only to bounce back and finish 14 place overall out of 165 car grid.
Legend.
http://pitstop.gran-turismo.com/en/article/687
Also from the pitstop page
http://pitstop.gran-turismo.com/en/article/634
Legend.
http://pitstop.gran-turismo.com/en/article/687
Also from the pitstop page
http://pitstop.gran-turismo.com/en/article/634
BradleyLove
Member
If you only own a PlayStation, then realistically it's the only option.
I laughed.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Work on the engine recording must have begun already but with such a huge roster and even though many samples could be recycled it's surely a lengthy task, does this mean GT7 for 2016, many or all standards not receiving new sounds or sounds being patched as they are completed?
And here we go, to all the resident specialists, put your money where your mouth is and go help Kaz.
You don't have to be a sound engineer to know when something sounds like shit.
Also from the article
IMO this is what PD should do. You dont have to record 1000 cars, just MAKE SURE it sounds like the real car, who cares how you achieve that.
I remember a youtube video of a guy doing car sounds out of a beer can, and sure as hell it sounded like the real thing.
IMO this is what PD should do. You dont have to record 1000 cars, just MAKE SURE it sounds like the real car, who cares how you achieve that.
I remember a youtube video of a guy doing car sounds out of a beer can, and sure as hell it sounded like the real thing.
sCHOCOLATE
Member
PD need to hire this guy for production car sounds. He has VW and Subaru nailed (along with weed whackers).
Wax, please search for the hidden files, especially in the courses directory.
Kaz was hanging with the Newey. Ideas are exchanged you know.
No way a simple decal editor and 2 cars could have taken up that much space. The update is larger than both the Red Bull Ring and the Senna update.
The decals are pretty high-res, I wonder why it's taken them so long to implement it. The DP-100 also drives much better than the Nissan 2020.
The decals are pretty high-res, I wonder why it's taken them so long to implement it. The DP-100 also drives much better than the Nissan 2020.
BADNED
Member
Maybe there is a little Spanish track in there, who knows?
Indeed, but seems weird that there was an unswitchoffable assist in a GT game, even weirder that no one knew about it (to my knowledge) and weirder still that they'd then decide to turn it off and announce they have done so.
He means Zahara. The track that was 'promised' back in Feb and no one has seen sight nor sound of it since.
Wow!
Sorry PD, but this is just unforgivable.
You have had ages to get your shit in order and now all of a sudden you don't have any sound guys with GT7 around the corner?
Fuck, hire Nick Wiswell or Greg Hill and just be done with it already..
That's likely not a corner, Sal. More like one big-ass helix, spiralling into infinity.
FlyingCheese
Neo Member
...am I the only one that still hopes to see the words McLaren Honda after every Wax's update treasure hunt?
2 two and a half minute full hd videos and some photos wouldn't make this update over 2GB. No, there must be something else in this update that we don't know about.
TheAdmiester
Member
The VW Vision GT update had one car, a track (Red Bull Ring), a HD video for said car and was around 600MB. If we doubled that and got two cars, two videos, and two tracks, that'd only be 1.2GB on its own, there has to be something large in this update we're not getting yet.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Circuito de la Sierra has been added to track database.
No hidden cars in the car database.
Alfa Romeo VGT info has been added - so the next two VGT cars are from Alfa and Subaru.
No hidden cars in the car database.
Alfa Romeo VGT info has been added - so the next two VGT cars are from Alfa and Subaru.