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[Shtof]

Anyone who plays retro or remember the old days knows that what was default may be inverted now and vice versa. Depends on the type of camera.

 

[tassletine]

That's the weirdest move of all.

Pshhhh. Mastering a control scheme is what gaming's all about.

 

[FunkMiller]

Inverters are clearly the vanguard of an alien invasion.

I SEE YOU, fuckers.

 

[MastaKiiLA]

BTW, controlling with inverted-Y might seem crazy, but it's completely natural when it's what you feel comfortable with. There's no impact on precision.

I wonder what people who fly RC planes prefer. Are there any RC pilots who use normal-Y on 3D games? I would find that interesting. In theory, you could also invert the elevator servo on an RC plane, but that would be a disaster if you let another pilot fly it.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

Ot
Where i live,some old people call the gays "inverted" maybe becouse 50 years ago gay was a taboo word i don't know

I'm fucking stealing this!

 

[INC]

Inverted Y is the only logical way to play

 

[Gaelyon]

i just invert my joypad, no need to change the settings.

 

[Thaedolus]

Only inverted when flying. Everyone else is wrong

 

[hemo memo]

I invert my controller. Yes physically because why not go full invert.

 

[the_master]

You just learn one way and use it, I have changed my inverted habits 3 times in my life. And I could change again if I wanted to, I would need about a week of adaptation period. You just get used to any of the 2 mappings. I woudl argue that if there was a use, we could get used to inverting any other axix as well. We just wire our brain to map one button or axix to one thing.

 

[Spaceman292]

Only for flying

The only right answer.

 

[Croatoan]

Its not that hard to figure out.

I grew up playing flight simulators and while flying IRL, or in sims, Flight Sticks are "Inverted" by default. Therefor I invert joysticks because it feels natural after so many years.

 

[Calverz]

Goldeneye.
There, saved you the hassle of researching.

 

[Croatoan]

Wait a second, has anyone found evidence that inverters are all straight white males yet? This could possibly be a patriarchal thing, or even racism!

 

[Jeeves]

I hear you guys bewildered by X-inversion, but a lot of games do that by default. Animal Crossing for example, uses inverted X-axis. I prefer X un-inverted, but unlike Y it's easy for me to go back and forth with X.

Inverted X in a third-person game feels like...spinning a plate to the left to bring the right edge of it closer to you. I don't know if I could do first-person X-inversion though.

 

[Nymphae]

do you point your eyes down when you want to look up?

If you were controlling their movement manually from behind them (analogous to manually moving a stick to change visual focus of a camera in front of it), then yes, you would pull down on them to make the eye look upward, like you do for television cameras.

 

[Magenta Mage]

I can't think of the last time I've ever had to change a game from the default stick controls. I tend to play games in such an abstracted way that I can't even relate to thinking about how the character's head or eyes would move or anything.

 

[The_Mike]

Controller stays the same...I invert my TV when necessary

 

[HF2014]

Only way to settle this is a Splatfest tournament Team Normal vs Team Fucked-Up.

 

[Larlight]

Oh something is gaping alright. And it ain’t knowledge.

 

[Esppiral]

It depends on were your imaginary head axis is, if it is in front of the equator then default control will fit you if it is behind the equator, then invented makes sense to you.

 

[Balducci30]

I think for me the sticks don't represent "up and down" but "forwards and back".

Given that, only inverted makes sense.

Yeah how are you holding the controller - think about the left stick when you press it forward so you jump, pull it back and crouch? No.

 

[Hunnybun]

Yeah how are you holding the controller - think about the left stick when you press it forward so you jump, pull it back and crouch? No.

What?

 

[June]

It's not deep. People just use and then accustomed to a particular style. That's it.
The fact that people can just as easily relearn the opposite approach tells you that no method is inherently better or genetic, or anything like that.

I like the bit in the article about how visual cues inform our behaviour as I have found myself using inverted on the very odd occassion in specific scenarios, so I can agree visuals can impact our decision making in some way.

 

[Boglin]

I can use both but I used to be strictly inverted. I learned to use "normal" because it was easier not having to change control schemes at lan parties when players would switch out.

 

[mr.dilya]

Always invert Y. If I’m on mouse and keyboard I leave it alone.

they need to make it the default again when playing with a game pad.

 

[LucidFlux]

I think it was Goldeneye with the C buttons being inverted for me. But inverted just feels natural now.

Many have mentioned it's like imagining the thumbstick is on the back of your character's head.

Mentally what I'm doing is controlling the pitch of the camera, if you've ever operated one on a tripod then you know to move the control arm down to aim the camera up and vice versa.

non inverted feels like I'm trying to pan the camera but from a fixed point. It breaks my brain.

 

[Iorv3th]

I’m inverted and my twin brother isn’t so it’s not genetic, he is just wrong

Your arnold and he is danny devito.

 

[June]

If you were controlling their movement manually from behind them (analogous to manually moving a stick to change visual focus of a camera in front of it), then yes, you would pull down on them to make the eye look upward, like you do for television cameras.

You would also need to invert the x-axis if you follow that reasoning, but so many people dont, so this reasoning doesnt hold up. Fact is inverted use is pretty much entirely arbitrary, people just stuck with whatever they got used to first and they could just as easily learn any other scheme with a little bit of time and use

 

[Nymphae]

You would also need to invert the x-axis if you follow that reasoning, but so many people dont, so this reasoning doesnt hold up. Fact is inverted use is pretty much entirely arbitrary, people just stuck with whatever they got used to first and they could just as easily learn any other scheme with a little bit of time and use

It is certainly interesting. Sometimes I do use inverted X for camera in some games, but yeah generally I only invert Y axis for FPS, and the logic should be the same for the X axis but it isn't.

It's funny though how serious people take this, I was taking shit from my friends the other day when we were playing CoD and they kept having to change the invert every match when I handed them the controller, they both prefer non inverted and were like what's wrong with you you use the wrong scheme, THIS ISN'T THE DEFAULT YOU ARE WRONG lol

 

[John Day]

So there’s people that invert Y for walking?

 

[Noboru Wataya]

 

[Fuz]

I used to play with inverted Y in Quake 2 times. Not sure why. One day I thought it was stupid and decided to switch.

I think I was more precise. Weird.

 

[June]

It is certainly interesting. Sometimes I do use inverted X for camera in some games, but yeah generally I only invert Y axis for FPS, and the logic should be the same for the X axis but it isn't.

It's funny though how serious people take this, I was taking shit from my friends the other day when we were playing CoD and they kept having to change the invert every match when I handed them the controller, they both prefer non inverted and were like what's wrong with you you use the wrong scheme, THIS ISN'T THE DEFAULT YOU ARE WRONG lol

Yeah haha I've experienced the same. A few years back I switched to regular after being a life-long inverter so I've experienced both my regular control friends looking at me in disgust when I used inverted and my inverted friends thinking they are hot shit that they use inverted and that I don't. There's definetely a bit of a hipster mentality with inverted users - I used to be the kind of the same tbh but ever since I switched I realised how arbitrary the schemes are so I don't really care anymore

To be fair it IS really annoying when people use different schemes and you're in a situation where you share the controllers between eachother and keep having to change the controls

 

[itsArtie]

Yes, when flying. Feels really good (on a controller). I'm not gonna invert controls in a first-person shooter, that's weird.