I'm yet to see valid reasoning for this other than i) "I don't like it", or ii) "it's not Halo".
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Halo 5 beta clips leak (sprint, ADS is *not* COD-style) (more clips and info added)
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I'm yet to see valid reasoning for this other than i) "I don't like it", or ii) "it's not Halo".
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
why didn't you say this here
lol.
lol heh.
But they're going to LOSE sales. People are going to stick with MCC which will end up being the best FPS this generation.
Do you know stuff we dont?
Poker Face
Member
why didn't you say this here
I'm an xbox one owner, not excited. Let's not start with this bullshit.
I Eat Thumbtacks
Neo Member
The BR always had ADS, they just replaced the scope with a red dot sight.
Something needs to bring joy to that level.
I jest of course, I actually like the Library
Computer
Member
This! After last nights showing how in the hell would 343 think that Halo needs to be modernized?
ToyMachine228
Member
I'm sorry, but do you think that because 5% of the playerbase of the Halo series doesn't like sprint or ads, that means 343 should cater their games to those 5%? Tens of millions of people play Halo, not just the gamers with NeoGAF accounts. Your opinion is not more valid than anyone elses.
Surprisingly, I'm more up in arms about the inclusion of Sprint again. In Halo 4, sprint rewarded aggressive gameplay too much. Far too often you would get the jump with the DMR (and after the rebalancing update - the BR) and enemies under fire could easily sprint around corners or drop down to another level to avoid gunfire. By the time you would catch up with them, their shields would generally either be fully recharged or partially recharged. Halo 2 -- as I remember it -- went more along the lines of getting the jump on somebody, and if you didn't land the kill shot, being able to pin them down and lineup a frag grenade for the finish since they can't cover as much ground without Sprint. Hence, more strategy and forcing the player to do less running and gunning.
Unless the next generation of Forge is absolutely out of this world, I don't see myself continuing my Halo collection for the foreseeable future as long as Sprint is included.
Unless the next generation of Forge is absolutely out of this world, I don't see myself continuing my Halo collection for the foreseeable future as long as Sprint is included.
Ninja Scooter
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Oh okay. That wasn't clear with the previous thread title. I guess I can still see why people are pissed though.
Doug Heffernan
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BrokenEchelon
Banned
Yeah guys, it could be a cutscene!
Stone Ocean
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All mimicking CoD will get you is a dead multiplayer mode come next november
Pop
Member
I don't want to believe this but damnnn.
This is such crap for 343i to do this. Iron sights and sprint is not Halo.
CoD:AW ain't even CoD anymore. Bouncing around the map is more like UT. It has damn lazer guns in and everything.
Solid Samus
Banned
Cool, try reading the thread and gaining some perspective
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Well this thread is certainly getting crazy.
why didn't you say this here
I couldn't find what was wrong at first but I realized I was looking at a Halo game.
Future PhaZe
Member
I don't really care if they want to go a different route. I mean we have MCC, so there's really no point in them regurgitating the same product.
Throwing CoD elements onto midship is just the laziest way to go about a sequel to H4 though.
Throwing CoD elements onto midship is just the laziest way to go about a sequel to H4 though.
shinobi602
Member
Stahp.
Because the world moved on man, I use to love halo, and now I don't, because I can't go backwards to that game style of no sprinting, shoot shoot melee grenade jump
I did it to death in halo 2, other games came along, pushed the envelope, Halo refused to, so I made the decision to throw the tarp over her in hopes that one day, the dev's will grow some balls. People talk about 'speed' in halo is funny, it's not that fast. I don't want a twitch shooter, but if the gun play was like Destiny (minus hip fire penalty and Nova bombs) I would be all over it
So you're saying you want to play the exact same game for the rest of your life? MCC should keep you busy.
???
Altered Juice
Member
Believe in Phil Spencer.
fucking perfect!
Believe in Phil Spencer.
Haha.
MarauderShields
Member
All you need to do is look at Halo 4s population to know that CODifying Halo doesn't work.
Computer
Member
Watch the Halo invitational and tell me Halo needs sprint. It is such a stupid concept in peoples mind that they need to run.
http://www.twitch.tv/halo
http://www.twitch.tv/halo
Halo 4 population dropped like a fucking rock for a reason. But okay let's talk about this 5% bullshit.
BibiMaghoo
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The vast majority of games that have ADS: You cant hit anything within a certain distance without aiming down the sights, even if they are relatively close, unless its a shotgun.
Also it usually slows down your movement rate alot, making most firefights "stand and shoots".
You, sir, are brave. I'll give you that
That's my biggest problem. I'm not a fan of Call of Duty's multiplayer. I know it's popular and I understand that 343 wants to capitalize on that, however I don't need every FPS arena shooter to feel the same because I like having alternate options in the field to play. I don't mind if they want to change things up and try to evolve the game, but it doesn't feel like they're doing that as much as they're just trying to copy the success of a different game. I loved it when Halo had it's own identity and space in the market, not when it was just trying to play catch up.
I meant that ADS could literally just be the normal scoping in, but with a different stylised effect, and sprint could be a power up.
But glad to see you can make jokes at such an annoying time.
ADS? CoD Sprint? They've learned absolutely nothing. I shit you not I might actually decide not to buy an Xbone if this is what Halo is turning into. I REALLY want to play remastered Halo 2 and the best versions of the Halo trilogy online but I just cannot buy another disappointing Halo game. Halo 4 was too much, if 343 wants to continue in that direction, I want no part of it.
Insightful.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
I think it's so much worse this gen. It's really annoying at this point and I'm not sure who it's coming from anymore. Sometimes it's veterans of gaming acting like the new comers who act like they've been gaming for years to even have these over reactions. It's getting so stupid really.
Consider this. Arena FPS is a dead genre. Appealing to fans of a dead genre means you get ALL the sales of fans of that genre. Making your game the same as all the others means you're entering a crowded genre. MCC is appealing to arena shooter fans better than 343 developed Halo games. There's a whole crew of gamers waiting to give the next arena FPS game all their money.
Why Is Star Citizen breaking all the funding records? Fans of the genre have been starving.
Fans of arena FPS gaming have been starving. This move is stupid.
Why Is Star Citizen breaking all the funding records? Fans of the genre have been starving.
Fans of arena FPS gaming have been starving. This move is stupid.
343 just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Halo fan culture (I'm an expert), but no sprinting and lack of ADS are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in CoD where you can become successful by being a camper. If you camp in Halo, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the xbox public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Halo 5 for xbox one, nor will they purchase the Master Chief Collection. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but 343 has alienated an entire market with this move.
343, publicly apologize and cancel sprinting and ADS for Halo 5 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Halo fan culture (I'm an expert), but no sprinting and lack of ADS are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in CoD where you can become successful by being a camper. If you camp in Halo, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the xbox public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Halo 5 for xbox one, nor will they purchase the Master Chief Collection. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but 343 has alienated an entire market with this move.
343, publicly apologize and cancel sprinting and ADS for Halo 5 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
Gears is first person now.
Heavy's Sandvich
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Stone Ocean
Member
You can make new additions to a formula without fundamentaly changing said formula
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
You're right.
Every game should play like Call of Duty.
It really feels like the "fuck you, got mine" attitude is strong among the supporters of these changes. Because you can be sure that if something they really liked was gutted in favour of copying a popular product they would be protesting it just as strongly as the majority of people in this thread have.
Empathy is good to have, even if you don't care about what's being discussed.
Portugeezer
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