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THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
What exactly do they have to prove? Other than being slow, they have delivered a pretty good if not excellent mutiplayer free to play halo, and an excellent single player halo thats true to the games roots and scores an average 87.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Lots of people will care, a fun game is a fun game.
I should also probably point out that Sean W claimed that these were legit screenshots from Halo Infinite because "343 employeee told him they are legit."
Guy is just guessing at best
I dropped a factual piece of information. How is that ‘swinging for Microsoft’?
“How dare you claim water makes things wet?!”
Look, it’s perfectly valid for you to dislike the current trajectory of Halo and what 343 is doing with the franchise. But acting like NPD and Steam data is irrelevant and cannot be cited is just strange. Attacking people for posting facts isn’t a good look for you.
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You may be on to something. Everyone knows December is a terrible month for game sales. And barely any games get sold on Steam.
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2nd only behind COD and outsold the holiday Pokémon releases. Top seller on PC in the US across all stores.
All this despite being a Gamepass title and Campaign only.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
It also dropped the majority of its online players.You may be on to something. Everyone knows December is a terrible month for game sales. And barely any games get sold on Steam.
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2nd only behind COD and outsold the holiday Pokémon releases. Top seller on PC in the US across all stores.
All this despite being a Gamepass title and Campaign only.
343 shit the bed and needs to go.
Topher
Gold Member
They have to prove they can deliver on this 10 year "live service" having never done this before. Being slow when you've already established a set period of time to deliver isn't a good thing.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
If we can question Grubb when he has scooped others on big news we can absolutely question Reddit right? Who is the reliable source for this story? Did they make any other accurate predictions about Halo Infinite? Do they have a date for co-op and Forge? The 2025 date seems pretty arbitrary.
Well MS has Sea of Thieves and that's a live service title that has delivered regular updates. Games like Grounded has been updated numerous times as well over the years. There is clearly a precedent of MS support of live service titles in the past.
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Topher
Gold Member
I agree 343 has no responsibility to respond to this or any other questionable rumor that is revealed on the internet, but that doesn't mean there is "nothing to debunk". There certainly is. But like I said, it is questionable and for my part, I'd say the "Halo api guy" G Godot25 referenced laughing at it on twitter is enough for me to say this rumor has no merit, not that it ever did considering the source. I do think 343 needs to be more transparent about there plans for Halo going forward though.
True. Time for 343 to do the same. I'm not saying they can't. They just need to prove they can deliver on this 10 year plan.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Absolutely, you should question and investigate any source.
Just to note though, this isn’t a story that’s originated on Reddit. It’s from a Halo YouTuber. I just posted the Reddit thread, alongside the report, to show that the rumour has gained significant traction.
Hezekiah
Banned
Still struggling with this I see. You still have no numbers.You may be on to something. Everyone knows December is a terrible month for game sales. And barely any games get sold on Steam.
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2nd only behind COD and outsold the holiday Pokémon releases. Top seller on PC in the US across all stores.
All this despite being a Gamepass title and Campaign only.
As for referencing Steam charts with the sales you usually get there...
Valid point. Also nothing to do with what my post was addressing.
I agree 343i is struggling at the moment and will need some serious intervention to resolve the issues they’re having putting out content for Infinite. Hopefully they’ll learn something from the lukewarm reception to Season 1.
Still struggling with this I see. You still have no numbers.
As for referencing Steam charts with the sales you usually get there...
From your post history, you’ve had zero issues citing NPD position and data as an indication of sales success when it’s suited your arguments
And not just NPD either. This was you using PSN chart position as an indication of sales success of Days Gone.
It’s not best practice to continue to dig when you’re in a hole.
Hezekiah
Banned
So you're saying I was wrongto do so (which I was).Valid point. Also nothing to do with what my post was addressing.
I agree 343i is struggling at the moment and will need some serious intervention to resolve the issues they’re having putting out content for Infinite. Hopefully they’ll learn something from the lukewarm reception to Season 1.
From your post history, you’ve had zero issues citing NPD position and data as an indication of sales success when it’s suited your arguments
And not just NPD either. This was you using PSN chart position as an indication of sales success of Days Gone.
It’s not best practice to continue to dig when you’re in a hole.
And therefore admitting you're wrong too (well done).
We got there in the end
. Halo has no sales numbers, and multiplayer has tanked since December. It's up to 343i to turn it around, bit I don't think they will. Time for someone else (i.d.) to take on the franchise.Btw jeez how long did you spend searching my post history (July 2020!) to find something so weak rather than admitting reality. You've definitely got too much time on your hands
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
So you're saying I was wrongto do so (which I was).
And therefore admitting you're wrong too (well done).
We got there in the end
Btw jeez how long did you spend searching my post history (July 2020!) to find something so weak rather than admitting reality. You've definitely got too much time on your hands
Are you really surprised at the lengths a sad warrior will go?
Shubh_C63
Member
It's like they don't want to have a momentum.
So many companies will be putting their AAA GaaS MP titles in coming years so lets see this do it right vs do it fast strategy works for 343.
Atrocious Battlepass, no saving that, I would have still be playing this if it wasn't such an unbelievable chore.
And c'mon, Story was below average at best. In terms of Halo it might even be considered bad. Everything is "xyz has begun" and then never begins with mixed soap opera.
So lots of room to improve.
For Halo, getting it right should be there first priority instead of faster content. They already have too many strikes and their playerbase will forgive everything if they can deliver once, like they did with the gameplay/gun-play.
So many companies will be putting their AAA GaaS MP titles in coming years so lets see this do it right vs do it fast strategy works for 343.
A Free multiplayer games where almost 80% people have left. I played around 3 weeks but people are right about lack of maps, contents and activity selection.
Atrocious Battlepass, no saving that, I would have still be playing this if it wasn't such an unbelievable chore.
And c'mon, Story was below average at best. In terms of Halo it might even be considered bad. Everything is "xyz has begun" and then never begins with mixed soap opera.
So lots of room to improve.
Completely agree in case of Halo. Those 20-40% players are still playing MP even with its shortcomings (also COD and BF both underperformed massively so that helped), liked the Campaign and would be 100% back whenever new Halo content is out.
For Halo, getting it right should be there first priority instead of faster content. They already have too many strikes and their playerbase will forgive everything if they can deliver once, like they did with the gameplay/gun-play.
Mister Wolf
Member
That's too far away. 343 while having produced a good game are an unoptimal solution for the franchise. Them as well as their game engine's ability to he efficient. I wish The Coalition would have been given the Halo franchise with Stanton leading and utilizing UE4.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
The Coalition is the best thing nobody is talking about.
MS needs to recognize and utilize them more.
VN1X
Banned
It's amazing that never before have we had this many studios working on a single game (CoD Vanguard, Halo, Battlefield) and each and everyone has struggled with base and post-launch content. CoD maybe less so as it has the Warzone tie-in but if you're just there for standard multiplayer you're also fucked.
I'm playing a lot of Bloodhunt at the moment which is a 40-player battle royale (PC & PS5 only atm) which has about the same amount of slow drip-feed content as Halo Infinite. The state of this industry...
I'm playing a lot of Bloodhunt at the moment which is a 40-player battle royale (PC & PS5 only atm) which has about the same amount of slow drip-feed content as Halo Infinite. The state of this industry...
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Kerotan
Member
But a full New game would take them 8 years. This dev is terrible.That can't be true,
Might as well make a new game at that point.
You weren’t wrong then. Days Gone sold well, and using chart position on the PSN revenues chart to infer sales health is perfectly apt.
Consistency is key.
Btw jeez how long did you spend searching my post history (July 2020!) to find something so weak rather than admitting reality. You've definitely got too much time on your hands
20 seconds, actually. GAF’s search function is really robust. You should try it sometime.
I will say I was surprised to see you condemn factual information from NPD and Steam
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
I checked, and I cannot believe it took 4 pages for someone to post this gif. I'm not angry GAF, just disappointed.
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Topher
Gold Member
I think some new leadership at 343 would make a big difference. Halo is one of the most iconic franchises in video gaming. I don't think many would disagree that there is a ton of unfulfilled potential being left on the table.
Hezekiah
Banned
Actually we don't know how well Days Gone sold, the numbers that came from Jeff Ross have been debunked.
Your statement is still unverifiable, and Halo is still dying. Keep up the good fight though
Nickolaidas
Member
You never, ever, EVER ...
Give the 'infinite' subtitle to your game. Never ends well.
Give the 'infinite' subtitle to your game. Never ends well.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Varteras
Gold Member
That's what we do here. We disappoint.
I checked, and I cannot believe it took 4 pages for someone to post this gif. I'm not angry GAF, just disappointed.
Nydius
Member
On the one hand it's a rumor.
On the other hand 343i is glacially slow.
I'm inclined to believe it based solely on how slow to react 343i has been since they took over from Bungie. It took several years for them to right the ship on MCC. Ditto Halo 5. And it sure looks like they're following the same path with Infinite, which is going to take well over a year before it's 'feature complete'. We've gotten -- what? -- two new maps total since the game's launch and might only see another 2-3 in the next season which may, also, end up being 6 months? Given that pace, I could easily see it taking 2+ years before they drop new campaign DLC, if they do any campaign DLC at all.
On the other hand 343i is glacially slow.
I'm inclined to believe it based solely on how slow to react 343i has been since they took over from Bungie. It took several years for them to right the ship on MCC. Ditto Halo 5. And it sure looks like they're following the same path with Infinite, which is going to take well over a year before it's 'feature complete'. We've gotten -- what? -- two new maps total since the game's launch and might only see another 2-3 in the next season which may, also, end up being 6 months? Given that pace, I could easily see it taking 2+ years before they drop new campaign DLC, if they do any campaign DLC at all.